from photo to photocopy

Rene wrote:

Hello,

Can anyone tell me what I should do: A Word ducument with text and an image. This image is a colorphoto taken with a digital camera and stored on my computer as a JPG. From this Word document I make a print with a laserprinter, wich only uses black toner. This print I copy with a regular copymachine (black toner again). Now the print from the laserprinter is not to bad. But the final result from the copymachine is not very good. The textpart is allright but the image is not.

Now the photshop question: I have a version 5.0 of this program on my PC and I know something about it. Is there something I can do with Photoshop to get a better final result?

Thanks, René

Convert (a copy of) the pic to grayscale. If it still doesn’t look good convert to bitmap with a halftone screen, but I think the grayscale will do it. You might want to tweak Levels, etc.

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Rene wrote:

Hello,

Can anyone tell me what I should do: A Word ducument with text and an image. This image is a colorphoto taken with a digital camera and stored on my computer as a JPG. From this Word document I make a print with a laserprinter, wich only uses black toner. This print I copy with a regular copymachine (black toner again). Now the print from the laserprinter is not to bad. But the final result from the copymachine is not very good. The textpart is allright but the image is not.

Now the photshop question: I have a version 5.0 of this program on my PC and I know something about it. Is there something I can do with Photoshop to get a better final result?

Thanks, René

Most modern copiers have the ability to be setup as networked print devices. One can therefore print directly to the copier and avail oneself of a larger selection of paper sizes (like Tabloid) and finishing options (Duplex, staple, hole punch, booklet etc. etc.). This is what we do with our Canon ImageRunner copiers at work. This works especially well if you need multiple copies, they are all ‘originals’ so there is no unnecessary image degradation and it’s fast. Most modern copiers support PCL6 and Postscript, I prefer Postscript.

If you don’t have this capability Kinkos probably do (tho I’ve never asked since we have it in house). I believe that my local Minuteman press in Nashville has this capability.

JP

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Most modern copiers have the ability to be setup as networked print

devices.

Our copier is not that modern.

If you don’t have this capability Kinkos probably do

We never heard of Kinkos here in Holland, but thanks for the reply.

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Convert (a copy of) the pic to grayscale. If it still doesn’t look good convert to bitmap with a halftone screen, but I think the grayscale will do it. You might want to tweak Levels, etc.

This I’m gonna try (monday at work that is).
Newspaperprictures are build up from little dots; I don’t know the english term for that. Can’t that be done in Photoshop?

In Holland we had 2 Kinkos one on the overtoom Amsterdam and the other in the Leidseplein, i think they went bankrupt last year though as they seem to be closed?

Stephen

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Most modern copiers have the ability to be setup as networked print

devices.

Our copier is not that modern.

If you don’t have this capability Kinkos probably do

We never heard of Kinkos here in Holland, but thanks for the reply.

Rene wrote:

This I’m gonna try (monday at work that is).
Newspaperprictures are build up from little dots; I don’t know the english term for that. Can’t that be done in Photoshop?

That would be the halftone. Image>Mode>Bitmap and select Halftone Screen in the dropdwn. Sorry , I don’t know the Dutch terms.

I don’t think you’ll have to go that far though. Grayscale ought to do it.

—
Comic book sketches and artwork:
http://www.sover.net/~hannigan/edjh.html

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Rene wrote:

This I’m gonna try (monday at work that is).
Newspaperprictures are build up from little dots; I don’t know the english term for that. Can’t that be done in Photoshop?

That would be the halftone. Image>Mode>Bitmap and select Halftone Screen in the dropdwn. Sorry , I don’t know the Dutch terms.

Actually, it’s a good idea. About 55 lpi for most photocopiers, however, I have no idea what word is going to do with that halftone.

A better way is to have a good postscript printer and a piece of software smart enough to control the lpi.

I don’t think you’ll have to go that far though. Grayscale ought to do it.

Well, no, not really. The whole problem is that photocopiers are generally incapable of duplicating shades of grey.

edjh wrote:

Rene wrote:

This I’m gonna try (monday at work that is).
Newspaperprictures are build up from little dots; I don’t know the english
term for that. Can’t that be done in Photoshop?

That would be the halftone. Image>Mode>Bitmap and select Halftone Screen in the dropdwn. Sorry , I don’t know the Dutch terms.

I don’t think you’ll have to go that far though. Grayscale ought to do it.

If you need to do a halftone (with little dots), I believe it’ll be necessary to first make the file very large to accomodate enough detail so that it looks decent. It’s been a while since I played with it but I recall being amazed how big the file needed to be. Something like 1200dpi maybe. It became slow to work with and unmanageable.

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In Holland we had 2 Kinkos one on the overtoom Amsterdam and the other in the Leidseplein, i think they went bankrupt last year though as they seem

to

be closed?

According to their website there are still 2 stores open in Amsterdam and Rotterdam.

http://www.kinkos.nl/companyinfo/locations.html

Jannie

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"Stephen" wrote in message

In Holland we had 2 Kinkos one on the overtoom Amsterdam and the other

in

the Leidseplein, i think they went bankrupt last year though as they

seem

to

be closed?

According to their website there are still 2 stores open in Amsterdam and Rotterdam.

http://www.kinkos.nl/companyinfo/locations.html

Jannie

Kinkos or no Kinkos; I want to do this myself with the equipement we got at my workplace.

thats the attitude to have!

Stephen

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"Stephen" wrote in message

In Holland we had 2 Kinkos one on the overtoom Amsterdam and the other

in

the Leidseplein, i think they went bankrupt last year though as they

seem

to

be closed?

According to their website there are still 2 stores open in Amsterdam

and

Rotterdam.

http://www.kinkos.nl/companyinfo/locations.html

Jannie

Kinkos or no Kinkos; I want to do this myself with the equipement we got

at

my workplace.

Rene wrote:

Kinkos or no Kinkos; I want to do this myself with the equipement we got at my workplace.

A noble goal, however I believe by making a print then a photocopy the end result will be disappointing, which is why I was trying to steer you in the direction of printing originals only (in house or outsourced).

If the photocopy route does not work, will multiple copies on your laser printer suffice? Or are you enlarging or otherwise changing the document/media type with the copier? I’m not sure why you are using the copier, (there must be a reason or you wouldn’t be doing it).

Whether you have a kinkos nearby or not is irrelevant, IMHO you need to find a piece of equipment somewhere where you can print first generation copies in the manner you require.

JP

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Rene wrote:

Kinkos or no Kinkos; I want to do this myself with the equipement we got

at

my workplace.

A noble goal, however I believe by making a print then a photocopy the end result will be disappointing, which is why I was trying to steer you in the direction of printing originals only (in house or outsourced).
If the photocopy route does not work, will multiple copies on your laser printer suffice? Or are you enlarging or otherwise changing the document/media type with the copier? I’m not sure why you are using the copier, (there must be a reason or you wouldn’t be doing it).
Whether you have a kinkos nearby or not is irrelevant, IMHO you need to find a piece of equipment somewhere where you can print first generation copies in the manner you require.

JP

I want to use the copier because I have to make a large number of copy’s. The tonercartridge of the laserprinter is to expensive for that….

This was my first question and first visit in this newsgroup. I must say it is very much alive. Thanks everyone so far!

One other technique…
Try copying the original or black and white printout on a fax machine set to "photo" resolution. The resulting image may be OK for your purposes.

HTH

m3

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Rene wrote:

Kinkos or no Kinkos; I want to do this myself with the equipement we

got

at

my workplace.

A noble goal, however I believe by making a print then a photocopy the end result will be disappointing, which is why I was trying to steer you in the direction of printing originals only (in house or outsourced).
If the photocopy route does not work, will multiple copies on your laser printer suffice? Or are you enlarging or otherwise changing the document/media type with the copier? I’m not sure why you are using the copier, (there must be a reason or you wouldn’t be doing it).
Whether you have a kinkos nearby or not is irrelevant, IMHO you need to find a piece of equipment somewhere where you can print first generation copies in the manner you require.

JP

I want to use the copier because I have to make a large number of copy’s. The tonercartridge of the laserprinter is to expensive for that….
This was my first question and first visit in this newsgroup. I must say

it

is very much alive. Thanks everyone so far!

Are you able to get any control over dithering and resolution in your laser printer (via properties dialog)?
Perhaps tweaking these might give you a better master for photocopying. Sorry to suggest an other than photoshop option.

"Rene" wrote in message

Hello,

Can anyone tell me what I should do: A Word ducument with text and an

image.

This image is a colorphoto taken with a digital camera and stored on my computer as a JPG. From this Word document I make a print with a laserprinter, wich only uses black toner. This print I copy with a regular copymachine (black toner again). Now the print from the laserprinter is

not

to bad. But the final result from the copymachine is not very good. The textpart is allright but the image is not.

Now the photshop question: I have a version 5.0 of this program on my PC

and

I know something about it. Is there something I can do with Photoshop to

get

a better final result?

Thanks, Ren

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Are you able to get any control over dithering and resolution in your

laser

printer (via properties dialog)?
Perhaps tweaking these might give you a better master for photocopying. Sorry to suggest an other than photoshop option.

"Rene" wrote in message

Hello,

Can anyone tell me what I should do: A Word ducument with text and an

image.

This image is a colorphoto taken with a digital camera and stored on my computer as a JPG. From this Word document I make a print with a laserprinter, wich only uses black toner. This print I copy with a

regular

copymachine (black toner again). Now the print from the laserprinter is

not

to bad. But the final result from the copymachine is not very good. The textpart is allright but the image is not.

Now the photshop question: I have a version 5.0 of this program on my PC

and

I know something about it. Is there something I can do with Photoshop to

get

a better final result?

Thanks, Ren