This anwsered in Jeff Goulden, "Slider Bar Width Adjustment" #, 8 Oct 2008 9:35 am </webx?14>
I want to center images at higher magnifications. Just because you can put your cursor on the IMAGE and use the scroll wheel to make it go up and down doesn’t mean you can make the image go right and left at the same time.
I’m confused. There are no slider bars for moving a image. Why the discussion of "narrow little bars" in the context of image movement?
Click an image in Grid view, hit E (or double click) to bring it in Loupe view, click again to magnify, then left click+drag to move the image up, down, left or right. Click again to fit the full image within the window, then centre the mouse, click again to magnify with the image centred.
And then there is the Navigator panel …
"I entirely agree that the panel sliders are narrow. However, I find the panel sliders to be entirely unnecessary. As Ian suggested you can scroll with the mouse wheel."
Wolf, thanks for the reply. Perhaps it is a matter of my non-grasp of the terminology/nomenclature of the various parts of the photoshop
viewing area. What I am saying is that the slider bars on the right and the bottom of the panel (making the image go up and down and right and left respectively) are quite narrow and are the exact same color/value as the corresponding white background of most of my images, making this narrow bar difficult to see on a laptop 3′ away and even more difficult to put the cursor on easily.
When you put your cursor on the image itself, I prefer to increase/decrease the magnification as set in preferences.
when you put your cursor on the slider bar on the right side and scroll with the mouse wheel, the image goes up and down. When you put your cursor on the bottom slider bar and scroll with the mouse wheel, the image moves right or left.
However, these aforesaid bars are so narrow that it’s a pain in the a** to put the cursor on them to start with. Now, if these slider
bars could be made WIDER (and even perhaps a different color from the area directly adjacent to it most of the time) it would be easier to perform the tasks described above.
So I am simply trying to find out (because I have looked and looked) if perhaps these bars can be made wider. This is what Jeff was originally asking and represents to me an easier solution in that one has only to use one’s mouse instead of using another hand and hitting shortcut keys and changing modes, etc.
I’m sorry if I’m not making this clear enough. Despite my poor grasp of descriptive english to make my question clear, I’ve been with P/S since version 3.0 and know about grid view, loupe view, etc. I just
wanted to find out if it were possible to widen the slider bars.
Thanks to you and Mr.McWilliams for trying to help.
Yikes! I’m in the Photoshop forum and my previous post was referring to Lightroom!
Photoshop – Lightroom – Photoshop – Lightroom – I’m back and forth and utterly lost as to which forum I am in at the moment. 🙂
Rock, lets talk about the image window in Photoshop and particularly the sliders.
Sitting down? Those nasty, thin sliders. Nobody uses them. Nobody.
Instead, use the Hand tool and position the image up, down, left or right. Press the Space bar to get the Hand tool. Press Space+Ctrl to Zoom in; press Space+Alt to Zoom out.
In CS4 there are even more image movement features: flick panning, smooth zooming, and press H+left click to get a birds-eye view of the image.
And there are other ways of panning through an image or zooming an image. Nobody uses the sliders.
"Sitting down? Those nasty, thin sliders. Nobody uses them. Nobody."
Humor. Okaaay. Well, Wolf, I try to avoid absolutes–such as "always", "never", "nobody", etc. Not to put words in your mouth but maybe you mean "nobody who knows anything".
Nobody? Actually, I would guess that a majority of P/S users are of a casual nature and are not of the expertise to know about the shortcuts you mention and use the sliders to move the image–after all, they are put there for that reason, right?
I am indeed sitting down and I would give anything to be able to get out of this chair and do something simple that most people take for granted, like walk to the bathroom.
While I rarely, if ever, post, I’ve been a member on this forum for…I dunno…maybe 10 years. I know about the Hand tool and have used it and the shortcuts you helpfully mention however they require letting go of my mouse and using my mouse (right) hand to implement.
Unfortunately for me, my left side is paralyzed. I’m not complaining, but I’ve had to learn to do a lot of things with one hand, (like type). Using these keystrokes are fine but this requires letting go the mouse and I’m just looking to get work done faster instead of the one-handed back and forth back and forth from keyboard to mouse. That’s all. I realize you didn’t know this but, for some reason, I don’t like to start posts with "I can’t use my left hand" etc.
OK, I’ll put it on the wish list and I’m sure that CS5 will have sliders at least 1" wide. See, that was humor, or, at least, irony.
Again, thank you for trying to help me, I appreciate it.
Rock, I’m not too clear on your terminology. Do you mean the scroll bars such as those that appear on all windows where the content is bigger than the frame?
I think the scroll bars are generated by the OS, not by Photoshop.
I think some versatile multi-button mouse devices can be customised to do more or less what you want one-handed.
"Do you mean the scroll bars such as those that appear on all windows where the content is bigger than the frame?"
Yes, John, that’s what I was trying to say. Thanks for putting it into words!
"I think some versatile multi-button mouse devices can be customised to do more or less what you want one-handed."
Now that’s a good tip! You’d imagine that I would have thought about something like that, but noooooo. I’ll check this out asap.
Thanks, John, for the info.
No, John, it turns out that the scroll bars in Photoshop are generated in Photoshop, not the operating system. I changed the size of the scroll bars in Windows but it didn’t affect P/S. Oh, well…
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"Do you mean the scroll bars such as those that appear on all windows where the content is bigger than the frame?"
Yes, John, that’s what I was trying to say. Thanks for putting it into words!
"I think some versatile multi-button mouse devices can be customised to do more or less what you want one-handed."
Now that’s a good tip! You’d imagine that I would have thought about something like that, but noooooo. I’ll check this out asap.
Thanks, John, for the info.
Wacom tablet’s various buttons can be programmed to carry out sequences of keystrokes, etc. too. Might be worth checking how versatile/useful this could be for you.
Anthony.
I just tried it.
I think PS just over-rides the Windows setting because some applications accept the change and others don’t.
Pity; but you’ve always got the multi-button mouse option.
