reducing resolution for web use

DF
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derek_forreal
Dec 11, 2008
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dear all,

i’m just learning some basic 2d (i work mainly in 3d) and am in the middle of reducing/cropping some of my images so that they fit neatly on a web page. i have a couple of questions:

1. when i reduce (resample) an image, in the resample dialogue there is no easy way to just reduce by a given multiplier (e.g. 0.5) and at the same time, see what the resulting size will be.

for example – i have an image that is 2592*1944 pixels. i would like to be able to enter a multiplier and see what the resulting resolution would be /before/ i commit to the new size. this is possible in a very old version of corel photopaint that i have and so my first question is can this be done in photoshop or do i have to resize elsewhere?

2. should i only reduce by certain multipliers or is any value ok? i searched and read a few posts on this but didn’t find anything conclusive for reductions.

e.g. i have an image 2592 * 1944 and need to reduce to 600*450. i want the resampled image to look as good as it can. should i reduce by the nearest available mult and then crop the rest or is it safe to just crop straight to the required resolution (assuming that the aspect ratio remains the same)?

3. final question – if i use the crop tool and specify the resolution, i can scale the cropping area and whatever area i choose will be cropped to the required size. very good if the answer to question 2 is ‘YES, you can reduce directly to required resolution’.

however, is it possible for the crop tool to work like this: i set my resolution for the crop tool. now i can see the cropping area on the image. the crop area is exactly the res that i specified and will crop the image without resampling?

hope that makes sense.

TIA

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dave_milbut
Dec 11, 2008
use save for web. much more control over the final output. both visually and size wise.
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Buko
Dec 11, 2008
SFW you just enter the size and it will show you how big.
DF
derek_forreal
Dec 11, 2008
how did i miss that?!

thanks guys – that helps a lot.

in general though, would you say it’s ok to reduce by any fraction or should i stick to halves/quaters/tenths etc.

also, any way to set a crop resolution (say 400 x 300) and then choose which part of the image you want to keep WITHOUT resampling – the crop tool seems to fix the aspect ratio which is great but will then resample the chosen area.
JJ
John Joslin
Dec 11, 2008
If you find the Crop Tool is fixing the aspect ratio you need to click the "Clear" button in the Options bar.
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Freeagent
Dec 11, 2008
And if you find the Crop Tool is resampling the chosen area you need to clear the resolution box.
DF
derek_forreal
Dec 12, 2008
thanks, but that’s not what i want – i’ll try and explain better.

do want the resolution to remain fixed.

say i have a 600×400 pixel photo. i need to crop to 540×360 WITHOUT resampling.

so i click on the crop tool, set my resolution and draw a rectangle on the photo. the rectangle is the correct aspect ratio, but the wrong size. how can i preview the correct size?
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Freeagent
Dec 12, 2008
Then you use the rectangular marquee, not the crop tool.

In the options bar Style > Fixed Size and enter your pixels. Crop.
DF
derek_forreal
Dec 12, 2008
perfect! – thanks for your time on this.

just curious – any reason why the crop tool doesn’t have this function? seems a bit unintuitive to have to use a different tool.

and any word on whether or not i should stick to certain multipliers when reducing image size or is image distortion not a problem in modern editors?
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Freeagent
Dec 12, 2008
The crop tool certainly should have this, I agree.

About resampling – no, I don’t think it matters much with any of the bicubic flavors. Nearest neighbor, perhaps, but who uses that?

There’s been a lot of discussion about resampling over in the ACR forum (including comparing the ACR algorithm to Photoshop’s), but nobody mentioned anything about sticking to multipliers that I can remember.
JJ
Jim_Jordan
Dec 12, 2008
In regard to photographic images (not plain web interface elements), there is a school of thought where you do not use ‘save for web’ for final sizing but instead do your sizing prior to ‘save for web’. Image resizing before SFW allows you to experiment with the various resampling options. This also allows you to apply sharpening to the photo before the SFW function.
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Freeagent
Dec 12, 2008
That makes sense, Jim, and that’s what I do. Mostly because I just provide the images – others put ’em out there. But I like to stay in control for as long as possible.
JJ
John Joslin
Dec 12, 2008
Out of long time habit I always set the pixel size before SFW.
DF
derek_forreal
Dec 12, 2008
thanks for the advice everyone – has been very helpful.

Freeagent, i’ll take a look in the ACR forum.

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