Monitor brightness inconsistency

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Bob Davis
Oct 26, 2003
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I’m posting this on three NG’s since I don’t know which applies best to this problem. Here’s the hardware list:

Sony E540 (primary monitor, 21")
Sony A240R (secondary monitor, 17")
Matrox G450 32mb dual-head on AGP
Gigabyte 8KNXP mobo w/ P4 2.8C (HT) and 2gb DDR3200 RAM
OS: WinXP Pro

I use this system for photo editing (PhotoShop, Nikon Capture, etc.) and both monitors emit a noticeably brighter picture until they have been active for 15 or 20 minutes, although the larger monitor shows this effect more prominently. It, of course, is the monitor I use for photo editing. This occurs when first started in the morning and when brought out of sleep mode (set to activate after 30 minutes at idle). I cannot do any critical photo editing until the monitors warm up.

Sony’s tech support (level 1) acted like the problem has never been seen before, but if it continues offered to replace either or both monitors in warranty. A friend who operates a digital photo lab says that his high-end editing software (used on PC’s) recommends never using a screen saver for this reason. Another photographer also using a PC mentioned that his monitor calibration device recommends not running tests unless the monitor has been on for some time. This leads me to believe the brightness issue I experience may be common.

Has anyone else encountered this phenomenon? A second system in my studio (Matrox G400SH with el cheapo Samsung 17" monitor) does not seem to vary in brightness at all. I can live with this, but I’d rather not. I’ve run Adobe Gamma and contrast is set to 100 and brightness at 5 after calibration on the larger monitor (warmed up, of course). The second monitor is set to 87 and 37, respectively, and brightness is about equal.

Any suggestions would be appreciated. TIA.

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Stephan
Oct 26, 2003
"Bob Davis" wrote in message
I’m posting this on three NG’s since I don’t know which applies best to
this
problem. Here’s the hardware list:

Sony E540 (primary monitor, 21")
Sony A240R (secondary monitor, 17")
Matrox G450 32mb dual-head on AGP
Gigabyte 8KNXP mobo w/ P4 2.8C (HT) and 2gb DDR3200 RAM
OS: WinXP Pro

I use this system for photo editing (PhotoShop, Nikon Capture, etc.) and both monitors emit a noticeably brighter picture until they have been
active
for 15 or 20 minutes, although the larger monitor shows this effect more prominently. It, of course, is the monitor I use for photo editing. This occurs when first started in the morning and when brought out of sleep
mode
(set to activate after 30 minutes at idle). I cannot do any critical
photo
editing until the monitors warm up.

Sony’s tech support (level 1) acted like the problem has never been seen before, but if it continues offered to replace either or both monitors in warranty. A friend who operates a digital photo lab says that his
high-end
editing software (used on PC’s) recommends never using a screen saver for this reason. Another photographer also using a PC mentioned that his monitor calibration device recommends not running tests unless the monitor has been on for some time. This leads me to believe the brightness issue
I
experience may be common.

Has anyone else encountered this phenomenon? A second system in my studio (Matrox G400SH with el cheapo Samsung 17" monitor) does not seem to vary
in
brightness at all. I can live with this, but I’d rather not. I’ve run Adobe Gamma and contrast is set to 100 and brightness at 5 after
calibration
on the larger monitor (warmed up, of course). The second monitor is set
to
87 and 37, respectively, and brightness is about equal.
I also edit photos on a 21"Sony monitor (E540) plus two el cheapo 19" My main monitor has to warm up before I can work on it ( takes just a few minutes) sounds totally normal
I also read many times to let the monitor warm up before running Adobe Gamma and so I did.

Your friend says not to use a screen saver, wouldn’t this keep your monitor running?
I don’t use any but have set my monitors to turn off only after 90 minutes of no activity.

Why is your brightness is set at only 5? it seems very very little!

As for the calibration of the other monitors I imagine you already know you can’t do anything about it via Adobe Gamma, it works only on your main display.

Stephan
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Madsen
Oct 27, 2003
Bob Davis wrote:

This leads me to believe the brightness issue I experience may be common.

It’s very common for CRT monitors. I can’t trust my Sony FW900 the first 30 to 45 minutes after a cold start (it’s way to bright too). TFT monitors don’t have that "problem".


Regards
Madsen.
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Hecate
Oct 27, 2003
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:08:26 -0600, "Bob Davis" wrote:

I’m posting this on three NG’s since I don’t know which applies best to this problem. Here’s the hardware list:

Sony E540 (primary monitor, 21")
Sony A240R (secondary monitor, 17")
Matrox G450 32mb dual-head on AGP
Gigabyte 8KNXP mobo w/ P4 2.8C (HT) and 2gb DDR3200 RAM
OS: WinXP Pro

I use this system for photo editing (PhotoShop, Nikon Capture, etc.) and both monitors emit a noticeably brighter picture until they have been active for 15 or 20 minutes, although the larger monitor shows this effect more prominently. It, of course, is the monitor I use for photo editing. This occurs when first started in the morning and when brought out of sleep mode (set to activate after 30 minutes at idle). I cannot do any critical photo editing until the monitors warm up.

Sony’s tech support (level 1) acted like the problem has never been seen before, but if it continues offered to replace either or both monitors in warranty. A friend who operates a digital photo lab says that his high-end editing software (used on PC’s) recommends never using a screen saver for this reason. Another photographer also using a PC mentioned that his monitor calibration device recommends not running tests unless the monitor has been on for some time. This leads me to believe the brightness issue I experience may be common.

Has anyone else encountered this phenomenon? A second system in my studio (Matrox G400SH with el cheapo Samsung 17" monitor) does not seem to vary in brightness at all. I can live with this, but I’d rather not. I’ve run Adobe Gamma and contrast is set to 100 and brightness at 5 after calibration on the larger monitor (warmed up, of course). The second monitor is set to 87 and 37, respectively, and brightness is about equal.

Any suggestions would be appreciated. TIA.
What you are describing is what happens when you turn on any CRT. It takes time to warm up – usually about 30 minutes. And using it for any critical work involving images before it has had time to warm up is not recommended.



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Hecate
Oct 27, 2003
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 01:57:47 +0100, Thomas Madsen
wrote:

Bob Davis wrote:

This leads me to believe the brightness issue I experience may be common.

It’s very common for CRT monitors. I can’t trust my Sony FW900 the first 30 to 45 minutes after a cold start (it’s way to bright too). TFT monitors don’t have that "problem".

Except that TF^T monitors are NTSCT – Never The Same Colour Twice 😉



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Madsen
Oct 27, 2003
Hecate wrote:

Except that TF^T monitors are NTSCT – Never The Same Colour Twice 😉

That depends on the quality of the TFT. 🙂


Regards
Madsen.
BD
Bob Davis
Oct 27, 2003
"Stephan" wrote in message

I also edit photos on a 21"Sony monitor (E540) plus two el cheapo 19" My main monitor has to warm up before I can work on it ( takes just a few minutes) sounds totally normal I also read many times to let the monitor
warm up before running
Adobe Gamma and so I did.

Mine takes more than a few minutes, more like 15-20 or longer.

Your friend says not to use a screen saver, wouldn’t this keep your
monitor
running?

I’m not going to do that, but rather just not do any critical editing until it has been on long enough. I’ll just have to adapt to it.

I don’t use any but have set my monitors to turn off only after 90 minutes of no activity.

Mine are set to 20, but I might go to 30.

Why is your brightness is set at only 5? it seems very very little!

My office has a low light level compared to most, and no glaring fluorescents. The monitors also have a homemade hood on it to shield it from the overhead light.

As for the calibration of the other monitors I imagine you already know
you
can’t do anything about it via Adobe Gamma, it works only on your main display.

I’m not too worried about the secondary monitor, and have it set fairly well with the primary now. I also use Ultramon software to manage the dual-monitor setup, but it doesn’t have a role in the brightness issue.
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Hecate
Oct 28, 2003
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 03:31:02 +0100, Thomas Madsen
wrote:

Hecate wrote:

Except that TF^T monitors are NTSCT – Never The Same Colour Twice 😉

That depends on the quality of the TFT. 🙂

True 😉



Hecate

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Madsen
Oct 28, 2003
Hecate wrote:

True 😉

🙂

I can tell that my TFT doesn’t drift as much as my CRT does. The CRT drifts a lot during a week or two and especially the red color runs amok if I doesn’t bring it back to a reasonable level every now and then.
My TFT on the other hand, is very stable regarding color consistency. The TFT is a Viewsonic VP201s and I just love it. It has a smaller gamut than the Sony FW900 does, but I can easily live with that.


Regards
Madsen.
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Uni
Oct 28, 2003
Bob Davis wrote:
I’m posting this on three NG’s since I don’t know which applies best to this problem. Here’s the hardware list:

Sony E540 (primary monitor, 21")
Sony A240R (secondary monitor, 17")
Matrox G450 32mb dual-head on AGP
Gigabyte 8KNXP mobo w/ P4 2.8C (HT) and 2gb DDR3200 RAM
OS: WinXP Pro

I use this system for photo editing (PhotoShop, Nikon Capture, etc.) and both monitors emit a noticeably brighter picture until they have been active for 15 or 20 minutes, although the larger monitor shows this effect more prominently. It, of course, is the monitor I use for photo editing. This occurs when first started in the morning and when brought out of sleep mode (set to activate after 30 minutes at idle). I cannot do any critical photo editing until the monitors warm up.

Sony’s tech support (level 1) acted like the problem has never been seen before, but if it continues offered to replace either or both monitors in warranty. A friend who operates a digital photo lab says that his high-end editing software (used on PC’s) recommends never using a screen saver for this reason. Another photographer also using a PC mentioned that his monitor calibration device recommends not running tests unless the monitor has been on for some time. This leads me to believe the brightness issue I experience may be common.

Has anyone else encountered this phenomenon? A second system in my studio (Matrox G400SH with el cheapo Samsung 17" monitor) does not seem to vary in brightness at all. I can live with this, but I’d rather not. I’ve run Adobe Gamma and contrast is set to 100 and brightness at 5 after calibration on the larger monitor (warmed up, of course). The second monitor is set to 87 and 37, respectively, and brightness is about equal.

Any suggestions would be appreciated. TIA.

Be rid of those CRT abnormalities and purchase a LCD monitor.

🙂

Uni

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Hecate
Oct 29, 2003
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 01:59:19 +0100, Thomas Madsen
wrote:

Hecate wrote:

True 😉

🙂

I can tell that my TFT doesn’t drift as much as my CRT does. The CRT drifts a lot during a week or two and especially the red color runs amok if I doesn’t bring it back to a reasonable level every now and then.
My TFT on the other hand, is very stable regarding color consistency. The TFT is a Viewsonic VP201s and I just love it. It has a smaller gamut than the Sony FW900 does, but I can easily live with that.

That’s interesting. I have to say my main CRT is stable, my secondary less so (The former is an Iiyama, the latter a CTX). But, I’ve always found iiyama monitors to be excellent.

If I had the cash I’d buy a nice Eizo TFT though 😉



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