Is there still that ‘project onto cube or cylindar’ feature in CS3?

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Laer
Jan 6, 2009
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I seem to remember this interesting but seemingly hidden little feature where you could sort of project an image onto a cube or cylinder… a fast little way to create a quasi-3D object that you could then rotate.

Is that still around somewhere in CS3? I know it has vanishing point, which is a more elaborate version… but I’m curious about the old feature I’m mentioning. It could have come in handy today, when I was making a little suitcase (front), and could have used it to automatically create the sides and tilt it a bit.

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harold_berm
Jan 6, 2009
yea, filter/render…

I forget if it was in CS3 and I don’t have that installed right now. In CS4 (extended) the options to wrap images onto shapes are more advanced (under the 3d menu).
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Laer
Jan 6, 2009
Nope, I can’t see it there… just clouds and lighting, basically. But, I know it always seemed hidden somewhere… I kept forgetting it existed. I don’t seem to have a 3D menu (like you have in CS4) either!

I suppose I could use Vanishing point… sort of. But that old feature was just so much more quick. I wonder where the heck it is!
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Laer
Jan 6, 2009
Meh, Vanishing Point doesn’t really do it… Damn, I really could use that old feature!

Typical… They take out the good feature, and add a bunch of redundant ones.
DM
dave_milbut
Jan 6, 2009
look in the goodies folder on the install disk…
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Laer
Jan 6, 2009
Couldn’t seem to find it… although I can’t remember what the name of the feature was. Did you find it in there yourself? Do you remember the name? Maybe I can Google it, or at least ask about it here by name.
JM
J_Maloney
Jan 6, 2009
"3D Transform"

And you don’t need it to project flat art onto a cube…
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dave_milbut
Jan 6, 2009
right. 3d transform. and right, you can just get a cube pic and use regular transform to map images onto it…
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Laer
Jan 6, 2009
Ah, that’s the name! Now, if only I could find it in CS3!

So, what other way were you thinking of projecting an object on a cube (or similar primitive)?

Again, I know that CS3 allows for 3D objects to be imported, and their textures to be altered… but that requires you to first create a 3D object (assuming you even have a 3D app), texturemap it, and then import it. What I liked about 3D transform is you could instantly just ‘extrude’ something without any other requirements… exactly what I need when quickly creating imags of objects that I need to be slightly tilted.

How would you do it?
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dave_milbut
Jan 6, 2009
Now, if only I could find it in CS3!

goodies folder on the disk! 🙂
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Laer
Jan 6, 2009
As I said, I can’t find it there… I’ll check again, but I went through all the folders and didn’t find it. Where specifically?
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dave_milbut
Jan 6, 2009
hmm… i thought it might be optional plugs.
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Laer
Jan 6, 2009
Nope… Why did they even take it out?

Okay, what’s the alternative. You mentioned a ‘cube pic’?
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Laer
Jan 6, 2009
Weird… I just googled it (and others are wondering where it went too)… and people there too are claiming it’s in the Goodies folder.

I think they are talking about the standalone PS, as the suite doesn’t seem to have it. They say it’s on the ‘Resources and Extras’ disk (…I’m assuming the Suite version is the ‘Content’ disk, which DOES contain the mentioned folders (Goodies/Optional Plugins/Filters), but that only contains one filter… ‘TextureFill’!).

Anyone here with the Suite that can verify this? Would it be on one of the other install disks?
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Laer
Jan 6, 2009
More confusion/contradiction…

Other people are also saying that it can be found in the following directory:

C:\Program Files\Adobe\Photoshop CS\Plug-Ins\Adobe Photoshop Only\Filters

However, I don’t have that directory either! (No ‘Adobe Photoshop Only’ folder). WTF?!

There’s also mention that Adobe pulled it at the last minute (apparently a move that caused some anger amongst users), BUT one person posted a link for the plugin:

<http://www.freeflashmenu.com/3dtransform.htm>

Just grabbed it, but haven’t tried it.
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Laer
Jan 6, 2009
Here’s a thought… I COULD(?) just load the plugin from my previous version of PS, could I not? My previous version is (brace yourself) PS5.5 (…hey, I liked it, and found no reason to update until now… and even now, it’s only because client’s files were no longer compatible/loadable in my version). The plugin should still be the same for CS3, shouldn’t it?
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dave_milbut
Jan 6, 2009
I wouldn’t load it from 5.5…

it’s not that hard to do using straight 2d editing techniquest though. quick google shows some easy to do tutorials:

<http://www.photoshopcafe.com/tutorials/3d_cube/3d_cube.htm>

<http://www.rnel.net/tutorial/Photoshop/10102>

< http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&am p;=&q=photoshop+tutorial+cube&btnG=Google+Search&amp ;aq=f>
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Laer
Jan 6, 2009
Ya, that’s how I normally do it… but the whole point is to have that feature so you can just take it and put it in a cube to rotate as you please. Same with putting it on a cylinder.
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dave_milbut
Jan 6, 2009
i’d use the one you downloaded then. 5.5. might be too old…
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Laer
Jan 6, 2009
Ya, I’ll try it, though some are saying it doesn’t work.

People seem to be suggesting that you can do it in CS3 anyway (if not much better)… but how? Strange that they have this powerful 3D ability now, yet don’t have this simple task covered.
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dave_milbut
Jan 6, 2009
probably in cs3 extended. i don’t thing standard cs3 has those 3d abilities…
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Laer
Jan 6, 2009
Ya, sorry, I should have mentioned I do have extended…. that’s what makes it all kind of ironic.
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PeterK.
Jan 6, 2009
I don’t think the plugin was updated at all since that old 5.5 version, so you probably could use the old one. I’m pretty sure I just copied mine from my Photoshop 7 folder to use with CS3. Keep in mind that it only works on 8-bit RGB files.
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PeterK.
Jan 6, 2009
And no, CS3 extended doesn’t do 3d objects that haven’t been generated and imported in from other software, except for simple planes that you can create with the vanishing point filter and export to 3d layers.
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Laer
Jan 6, 2009
Yup, I guess I’ll just install that and see what damage it causes!

Shame… That’s actually one feature I’d like to see in Photoshop (and AfterEffects)… a ‘true’ 3D extrude of a layer. Could be great for simple object and text.

Seems to be a contradiction on whether or not it works in CS3… Many articles are saying it doesn’t… yet I just saw a CS3 book that actually has a whole section on the 3DTransform filter!

I’m going to try importing some of the 3D models I found today in the Goodies folder…. see what that gives me. Too bad THAT doesn’t have simple primitives.
DM
dave_milbut
Jan 6, 2009
it’s here on the disk for cs3: Goodies\Optional Plug-Ins\Filters

here’s the one that shipped w/cs3 extended ed. – post when you get it, i’ll take it down.

<http://milbut.org/3D> Transform.8BF
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Laer
Jan 7, 2009
Cool, thanks. You can remove that file.

So, your copy has it in the Optional Plug-Ins\Filters folder?? Something weird here!

I’ve got the CS3 Production Suite (which has PS CS3 Extended), and am looking on the Contents DVD (in the 2nd case, which also contains the DVDs for OnLocation and Ultra). I’m looking in this directory:

I:\English\Goodies\Adobe Photoshop CS3 Extended\Optional Plug-Ins\Filters

Yet all that’s in there is one file: Texture Fill.8BF

I can’t imagine it would be on any of the other DVDs… The other two are specific to those two applications (I would assume), and the 4 discs in the first case are all the installation DVDs.

Anyone have any info on this? Adobe guys? You here?

Well, in the meantime, thanks for the file. I’ll try that.
DM
dave_milbut
Jan 7, 2009
Yet all that’s in there is one file: Texture Fill.8BF

that one’s in there too.

maybe they ran out of space on the disk. anyway, enjoy. it’s gone. 🙂
DM
dave_milbut
Jan 7, 2009
bob, can you edit that link out of my post?

dave milbut, "Is there still that ‘project onto cube or cylindar’ feature in CS3?" #25, 6 Jan 2009 2:39 pm </webx?14/24>

thanks, dave
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Laer
Jan 7, 2009
Hey, Dave… If you can’t get them to delete the link, you guys have my permission (if needed) to delete the whole post if needed… I do appreciate you posting that link for me, so I figure it’s the least I could do… 🙂
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Ho
Jan 7, 2009
Bwahaha! I got it too…
DM
dave_milbut
Jan 7, 2009
no worries. the file’s no longer there so…

why would you need it howard? you have cs2 or 3 no? you should have it… 🙂
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Silkrooster
Jan 7, 2009
Here is a disk object you can play with. It measures around 1 meter in diameter and 5 meters in length. Double clicking on the texture will let you wrap another image on the disk.
I believe this works in the extended version only.

Disk.zip <http://www.silkrooster.com/adobe-forums/disk.zip> Included is a psd file, obj file, mtl file and a jpg file. Enjoy
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Laer
Jan 7, 2009
Thanks Slikrooster. Luckily, I DO have 3D apps (and actually do 3D modelling/animation), so I guess I can always create my own objects to use in PS… I was just hoping for a quick and easy way to create extrusions (for lack of better word) for some of my elements in hand-painted work (the ability to quickly create sides so all my elements wouldn’t be ‘straight on’ views.

Thanks for the file! Your help is appreciated!
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Silkrooster
Jan 8, 2009
Your welcome. To my knowledge the only way to do anything similar would be to upgrade to CS4. Or if you have illustrator to can add an image that way.

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