How can I quickly select a rectangular image in CS3?
The canvas size exceeds the image size.
I have Snap-To Guides selected, but if I use the Rectangular Marquee
Tool while zoomed out, the image either too much or too little of the
image is grabbed.
So I have to zoom in to the pixel level at one corner, and then drag the
opposite corner of the selection to the opposite corner of the image,
and it can take minutes while scrolling at the pixel level to get to the
far edge of the image.
"Robert Montgomery" <info-block@northern-data-tech.net> wrote in message
news:7N%In.4626$z%6.986@edtnps83...
> How can I quickly select a rectangular image in CS3?
>
> The canvas size exceeds the image size.
>
> I have Snap-To Guides selected, but if I use the Rectangular Marquee Tool
> while zoomed out, the image either too much or too little of the image is
> grabbed.
>
> So I have to zoom in to the pixel level at one corner, and then drag the
> opposite corner of the selection to the opposite corner of the image, and
> it can take minutes while scrolling at the pixel level to get to the far
> edge of the image.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Robert
If the image only occupies part of the canvas, select the blank border
(Magic Wand on low tolerance) then Invert the selection.
Sorry if I've misunderstood your problem.
R.
On Thu, 20 May 2010 09:52:50 +0100, "Ragnar" <ragnar@NOSPAM.com>
wrote:
>
>"Robert Montgomery" <info-block@northern-data-tech.net> wrote in message
>news:7N%In.4626$z%6.986@edtnps83...
>> How can I quickly select a rectangular image in CS3?
>>
>> The canvas size exceeds the image size.
>>
>> I have Snap-To Guides selected, but if I use the Rectangular Marquee Tool
>> while zoomed out, the image either too much or too little of the image is
>> grabbed.
>>
>> So I have to zoom in to the pixel level at one corner, and then drag the
>> opposite corner of the selection to the opposite corner of the image, and
>> it can take minutes while scrolling at the pixel level to get to the far
>> edge of the image.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Robert
>
>If the image only occupies part of the canvas, select the blank border
>(Magic Wand on low tolerance) then Invert the selection.
>Sorry if I've misunderstood your problem.
>R.
>
is it always the same size reactangle? as you can make a fized size
marquee
you say it not right when you use snap are you sure feather isnt
selected?
>How can I quickly select a rectangular image in CS3?
You want to select the whole image? Has CTRL-A stopped working in CS3?
Or selecting the marquee tool, right clicking on the image and clicking
SELECT ALL from the pop-up? Have these basic functions been removed from
Photoshop?
On 21.May.10 14:24h, Voivod wrote:
> On Thu, 20 May 2010 00:56:35 GMT, Robert Montgomery
> <info-block@northern-data-tech.net> scribbled:
>
>> How can I quickly select a rectangular image in CS3?
>
> You want to select the whole image? Has CTRL-A stopped working in CS3?
no, it didnt stop - you skipped reading the the OP's second sentence:
"The canvas size exceeds the image size"
> Or selecting the marquee tool, right clicking on the image and clicking
> SELECT ALL from the pop-up? Have these basic functions been removed from
> Photoshop?
> On 21.May.10 14:24h, Voivod wrote:
> > On Thu, 20 May 2010 00:56:35 GMT, Robert Montgomery
> > <info-block@northern-data-tech.net> scribbled:
> >
> >> How can I quickly select a rectangular image in CS3?
> >
> > You want to select the whole image? Has CTRL-A stopped working in CS3?
>
> no, it didnt stop - you skipped reading the the OP's second sentence:
>
> "The canvas size exceeds the image size"
That second sentence was left for you to answer <bg>
> > Or selecting the marquee tool, right clicking on the image and clicking
> > SELECT ALL from the pop-up? Have these basic functions been removed from
> > Photoshop?
> How can I quickly select a rectangular image in CS3?
>
> The canvas size exceeds the image size.
>
> I have Snap-To Guides selected, but if I use the Rectangular Marquee Tool
> while zoomed out, the image either too much or too little of the image is
> grabbed.
>
> So I have to zoom in to the pixel level at one corner, and then drag the
> opposite corner of the selection to the opposite corner of the image, and
> it can take minutes while scrolling at the pixel level to get to the far
> edge of the image.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Robert
If the rectangle is on a transparent layer, ctrl-click the icon in the
layer palette to select it.
On 25.May.10 15:19h, Joel wrote:
> John Stafford<nhoj@droffats.ten> wrote:
>
>>> How can I quickly select a rectangular image in CS3?
>>
>> Increase the canvas size or select the option to fit a paste into
>> existing image.
>
> I still can't picture what increasing the canvas size has anything to to
> with selecting the whole image.
>
> BTW, the OP is DEAD so I think we would move to the next question instead?
IMHO Ragnar has both understood the question and answered it correctly.
And the OP didnt want to waste peoples' precious time reading his thank
you posting ;-)
> On 25.May.10 15:19h, Joel wrote:
> > John Stafford<nhoj@droffats.ten> wrote:
> >
> >>> How can I quickly select a rectangular image in CS3?
> >>
> >> Increase the canvas size or select the option to fit a paste into
> >> existing image.
> >
> > I still can't picture what increasing the canvas size has anything to to
> > with selecting the whole image.
> >
> > BTW, the OP is DEAD so I think we would move to the next question instead?
>
> IMHO Ragnar has both understood the question and answered it correctly.
Who is Ragma and what was the correct answer that both understood?
> And the OP didnt want to waste peoples' precious time reading his thank
> you posting ;-)
And you and I wasting people time fighting something for nothing?
> On 25.May.10 15:19h, Joel wrote:
> > John Stafford<nhoj@droffats.ten> wrote:
> >
> >>> How can I quickly select a rectangular image in CS3?
> >>
> >> Increase the canvas size or select the option to fit a paste into
> >> existing image.
> >
> > I still can't picture what increasing the canvas size has anything to to
> > with selecting the whole image.
> >
> > BTW, the OP is DEAD so I think we would move to the next question instead?
>
> IMHO Ragnar has both understood the question and answered it correctly.
>
> And the OP didnt want to waste peoples' precious time reading his thank
> you posting ;-)
Oops! I forgot to mention that we don't need any stinky thank you message
(I often against it), but a message from the OP saying that Ragnar is
correct and s/he understood as well as having the problem solved would be
helpful.
Ragnar wrote:
> "Robert Montgomery" <info-block@northern-data-tech.net> wrote in message
> news:7N%In.4626$z%6.986@edtnps83...
>> How can I quickly select a rectangular image in CS3?
>>
>> The canvas size exceeds the image size.
>>
>> I have Snap-To Guides selected, but if I use the Rectangular Marquee Tool
>> while zoomed out, the image either too much or too little of the image is
>> grabbed.
>>
>> So I have to zoom in to the pixel level at one corner, and then drag the
>> opposite corner of the selection to the opposite corner of the image, and
>> it can take minutes while scrolling at the pixel level to get to the far
>> edge of the image.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Robert
>
> If the image only occupies part of the canvas, select the blank border
> (Magic Wand on low tolerance) then Invert the selection.
> Sorry if I've misunderstood your problem.
> R.
Thanks, Ragnar.
That often doesn't work – even with a tolerance of 1 – because some
areas of the images are white or nearly white, so they, too become
selected when using your technique.
david johnson wrote:
> On Thu, 20 May 2010 09:52:50 +0100, "Ragnar" <ragnar@NOSPAM.com>
> wrote:
>
>> "Robert Montgomery" <info-block@northern-data-tech.net> wrote in message
>> news:7N%In.4626$z%6.986@edtnps83...
>>> How can I quickly select a rectangular image in CS3?
>>>
>>> The canvas size exceeds the image size.
>>>
>>> I have Snap-To Guides selected, but if I use the Rectangular Marquee Tool
>>> while zoomed out, the image either too much or too little of the image is
>>> grabbed.
>>>
>>> So I have to zoom in to the pixel level at one corner, and then drag the
>>> opposite corner of the selection to the opposite corner of the image, and
>>> it can take minutes while scrolling at the pixel level to get to the far
>>> edge of the image.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Robert
>> If the image only occupies part of the canvas, select the blank border
>> (Magic Wand on low tolerance) then Invert the selection.
>> Sorry if I've misunderstood your problem.
>> R.
>>
>
>
> is it always the same size reactangle? as you can make a fized size
> marquee
Thanks, David. No, most of my rectangles and square are different size.
>
> you say it not right when you use snap are you sure feather isnt
> selected?
With nothing selected, Select > Modify > Feather cannot be selected
because both Modify and Feather are grayed.
On 28.May.10 1:32h, Robert Montgomery wrote:
> Ragnar wrote:
>> "Robert Montgomery" <info-block@northern-data-tech.net> wrote in
>> message news:7N%In.4626$z%6.986@edtnps83...
>>> How can I quickly select a rectangular image in CS3?
>>>
>>> The canvas size exceeds the image size.
>>>
>>> I have Snap-To Guides selected, but if I use the Rectangular Marquee
>>> Tool while zoomed out, the image either too much or too little of the
>>> image is grabbed.
>>>
>>> So I have to zoom in to the pixel level at one corner, and then drag
>>> the opposite corner of the selection to the opposite corner of the
>>> image, and it can take minutes while scrolling at the pixel level to
>>> get to the far edge of the image.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Robert
>>
>> If the image only occupies part of the canvas, select the blank border
>> (Magic Wand on low tolerance) then Invert the selection.
>> Sorry if I've misunderstood your problem.
>> R.
>
>
> Thanks, Ragnar.
>
> That often doesn't work – even with a tolerance of 1 – because some
> areas of the images are white or nearly white, so they, too become
> selected when using your technique.
in that case the trim command is more useful than the magic wand (as
long as the surrounding canvas is monochrome):
On 28.May.10 15:47h, Rainer Latka wrote:
> On 28.May.10 1:32h, Robert Montgomery wrote:
>> Ragnar wrote:
>>> "Robert Montgomery" <info-block@northern-data-tech.net> wrote in
>>> message news:7N%In.4626$z%6.986@edtnps83...
>>>> How can I quickly select a rectangular image in CS3?
>>>>
>>>> The canvas size exceeds the image size.
>>>>
>>>> I have Snap-To Guides selected, but if I use the Rectangular Marquee
>>>> Tool while zoomed out, the image either too much or too little of the
>>>> image is grabbed.
>>>>
>>>> So I have to zoom in to the pixel level at one corner, and then drag
>>>> the opposite corner of the selection to the opposite corner of the
>>>> image, and it can take minutes while scrolling at the pixel level to
>>>> get to the far edge of the image.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Robert
>>>
>>> If the image only occupies part of the canvas, select the blank border
>>> (Magic Wand on low tolerance) then Invert the selection.
>>> Sorry if I've misunderstood your problem.
>>> R.
>>
>>
>> Thanks, Ragnar.
>>
>> That often doesn't work – even with a tolerance of 1 – because some
>> areas of the images are white or nearly white, so they, too become
>> selected when using your technique.
>
> in that case the trim command is more useful than the magic wand (as
> long as the surrounding canvas is monochrome):
> On 28.May.10 15:47h, Rainer Latka wrote:
> > On 28.May.10 1:32h, Robert Montgomery wrote:
> >> Ragnar wrote:
> >>> "Robert Montgomery" <info-block@northern-data-tech.net> wrote in
> >>> message news:7N%In.4626$z%6.986@edtnps83...
> >>>> How can I quickly select a rectangular image in CS3?
> >>>>
> >>>> The canvas size exceeds the image size.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have Snap-To Guides selected, but if I use the Rectangular Marquee
> >>>> Tool while zoomed out, the image either too much or too little of the
> >>>> image is grabbed.
> >>>>
> >>>> So I have to zoom in to the pixel level at one corner, and then drag
> >>>> the opposite corner of the selection to the opposite corner of the
> >>>> image, and it can take minutes while scrolling at the pixel level to
> >>>> get to the far edge of the image.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks.
> >>>>
> >>>> Robert
> >>>
> >>> If the image only occupies part of the canvas, select the blank border
> >>> (Magic Wand on low tolerance) then Invert the selection.
> >>> Sorry if I've misunderstood your problem.
> >>> R.
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks, Ragnar.
> >>
> >> That often doesn't work – even with a tolerance of 1 – because some
> >> areas of the images are white or nearly white, so they, too become
> >> selected when using your technique.
> >
> > in that case the trim command is more useful than the magic wand (as
> > long as the surrounding canvas is monochrome):
>
> monochromatic, I should say
And I still have no clue what the OP really want, and dunno how others
come up with different answers those don't seem to have anything to do with
the question?
On 28.May.10 23:34h, Joel wrote:
> Rainer Latka<spam.trap@tiscali.de> wrote:
>
>> On 28.May.10 15:47h, Rainer Latka wrote:
>>> On 28.May.10 1:32h, Robert Montgomery wrote:
>>>> Ragnar wrote:
>>>>> "Robert Montgomery"<info-block@northern-data-tech.net> wrote in
>>>>> message news:7N%In.4626$z%6.986@edtnps83...
>>>>>> How can I quickly select a rectangular image in CS3?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The canvas size exceeds the image size.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have Snap-To Guides selected, but if I use the Rectangular Marquee
>>>>>> Tool while zoomed out, the image either too much or too little of the
>>>>>> image is grabbed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I have to zoom in to the pixel level at one corner, and then drag
>>>>>> the opposite corner of the selection to the opposite corner of the
>>>>>> image, and it can take minutes while scrolling at the pixel level to
>>>>>> get to the far edge of the image.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Robert
>>>>>
>>>>> If the image only occupies part of the canvas, select the blank border
>>>>> (Magic Wand on low tolerance) then Invert the selection.
>>>>> Sorry if I've misunderstood your problem.
>>>>> R.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Ragnar.
>>>>
>>>> That often doesn't work – even with a tolerance of 1 – because some
>>>> areas of the images are white or nearly white, so they, too become
>>>> selected when using your technique.
>>>
>>> in that case the trim command is more useful than the magic wand (as
>>> long as the surrounding canvas is monochrome):
>>
>> monochromatic, I should say
>
> And I still have no clue what the OP really want, and dunno how others
> come up with different answers those don't seem to have anything to do with
> the question?
ok, let me describe my interpretation:
The OP wants to select a rectangular subarea of an image. Other than
that he did not provide any further clues, so everybody is just guessing.
Ragnar has assumed that the area around the subarea is monochromatic and
has proposed to use the magic wand to select the outer area and then to
invert the selection which would leave just the subarea selected. The
OP's answer was, that the subarea has (some) pixels of the same color as
the outer area, so the magic wand selects some pixels in the subarea,
thus invalidating the solution. Other than that, the OP has still not
given any further clues as to the situation.
Following that, I have guessed
a) that the OP wants to select the subarea in order to be able to
manipulate just it,
b) that the subarea's borders are parallel to the image's outer borders,
c) that the outer area is monochromatic.
In this situation the trim command will eliminate the outer area,
leaving the subarea for further use.
If this is not acceptable and the outer area must be retained, I would
set guides around the subarea (OP: zoom to see the positioning at pixel
level, then zoom out again to see the complete subarea), then switch on
the snap function, make sure all feathering is set to zero and finally
set the selection letting it snap to the guides.
> On 28.May.10 23:34h, Joel wrote:
> > Rainer Latka<spam.trap@tiscali.de> wrote:
> >
> >> On 28.May.10 15:47h, Rainer Latka wrote:
> >>> On 28.May.10 1:32h, Robert Montgomery wrote:
> >>>> Ragnar wrote:
> >>>>> "Robert Montgomery"<info-block@northern-data-tech.net> wrote in
> >>>>> message news:7N%In.4626$z%6.986@edtnps83...
> >>>>>> How can I quickly select a rectangular image in CS3?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The canvas size exceeds the image size.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have Snap-To Guides selected, but if I use the Rectangular Marquee
> >>>>>> Tool while zoomed out, the image either too much or too little of the
> >>>>>> image is grabbed.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So I have to zoom in to the pixel level at one corner, and then drag
> >>>>>> the opposite corner of the selection to the opposite corner of the
> >>>>>> image, and it can take minutes while scrolling at the pixel level to
> >>>>>> get to the far edge of the image.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Robert
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If the image only occupies part of the canvas, select the blank border
> >>>>> (Magic Wand on low tolerance) then Invert the selection.
> >>>>> Sorry if I've misunderstood your problem.
> >>>>> R.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks, Ragnar.
> >>>>
> >>>> That often doesn't work – even with a tolerance of 1 – because some
> >>>> areas of the images are white or nearly white, so they, too become
> >>>> selected when using your technique.
> >>>
> >>> in that case the trim command is more useful than the magic wand (as
> >>> long as the surrounding canvas is monochrome):
> >>
> >> monochromatic, I should say
> >
> > And I still have no clue what the OP really want, and dunno how others
> > come up with different answers those don't seem to have anything to do with
> > the question?
>
> ok, let me describe my interpretation:
>
> The OP wants to select a rectangular subarea of an image. Other than
> that he did not provide any further clues, so everybody is just guessing.
That is/was what I read and I understood that s/he wants to select all (
as I read the OP saying some part of the selection is larger than the
canvas).
At this point it seems like the OP is using Crop Tool else I don't know
why s/he can't control his or her hand. IOW, Cropping will go by the RATIO
when selecting tool will do whatever the operator wants. And Ctrl-A will
select from edge-to-edge
> Ragnar has assumed that the area around the subarea is monochromatic and
> has proposed to use the magic wand to select the outer area and then to
> invert the selection which would leave just the subarea selected. The
> OP's answer was, that the subarea has (some) pixels of the same color as
> the outer area, so the magic wand selects some pixels in the subarea,
> thus invalidating the solution. Other than that, the OP has still not
> given any further clues as to the situation.
That's the problem, and that's the reason I won't go any further.
> Following that, I have guessed
> a) that the OP wants to select the subarea in order to be able to
> manipulate just it,
> b) that the subarea's borders are parallel to the image's outer borders,
> c) that the outer area is monochromatic.
> In this situation the trim command will eliminate the outer area,
> leaving the subarea for further use.
The problem that we don't have any clue what the original photo is and
exactly what s/he wants to do. Base on the original message
====================
How can I quickly select a rectangular image in CS3?
The canvas size exceeds the image size.
I have Snap-To Guides selected, but if I use the Rectangular Marquee Tool
while zoomed out, the image either too much or too little of the image is
grabbed.
So I have to zoom in to the pixel level at one corner, and then drag the
opposite corner of the selection to the opposite corner of the image, and
it can take minutes while scrolling at the pixel level to get to the far
edge of the image.
Thanks.
Robert
=============================================
Q. How can I quickly select a rectangular image in CS3?
A. Ctrl-A is one of the quickest
Q. The canvas size exceeds the image size.
A. Ctrl-A also stand for ARM-Movement so it won't allow going beyond the max
size.
Q. I have Snap-To Guides selected, but if I use the Rectangular Marquee
Tool while zoomed out, the image either too much or too little of the
image is grabbed.
A. I never used the Snap-To-Guides to know what it's and how it works (I
have read something about Snap and Guide but only tried part of the whole
thing to know much about it). And I have no clue of the "too much" and "too
little"
Q. So I have to zoom in to the pixel level at one corner, and then drag the
opposite corner of the selection to the opposite corner of the image, and
it can take minutes while scrolling at the pixel level to get to the far
edge of the image.
A. I have no clue what the OP is trying to do (to the photo ore photos)
> If this is not acceptable and the outer area must be retained, I would
> set guides around the subarea (OP: zoom to see the positioning at pixel
> level, then zoom out again to see the complete subarea), then switch on
> the snap function, make sure all feathering is set to zero and finally
> set the selection letting it snap to the guides.
As my understanding Photoshop has instroduced the option to snap one image
to other to perfect match (edge-to-edge) which I have read and probably
tried once or twice just to have the general idea. But I don't have no use
of it (or I can get around with my old technique to learn more about it) so
I can't be able to see what may go wrong besides snapping the right command
but wrong photo (ratio or size)?
On 29.May.10 14:37h, Joel wrote:
> Rainer Latka<spam.trap@tiscali.de> wrote:
>
>> On 28.May.10 23:34h, Joel wrote:
>>> Rainer Latka<spam.trap@tiscali.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 28.May.10 15:47h, Rainer Latka wrote:
>>>>> On 28.May.10 1:32h, Robert Montgomery wrote:
>>>>>> Ragnar wrote:
>>>>>>> "Robert Montgomery"<info-block@northern-data-tech.net> wrote in
>>>>>>> message news:7N%In.4626$z%6.986@edtnps83...
>>>>>>>> How can I quickly select a rectangular image in CS3?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The canvas size exceeds the image size.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have Snap-To Guides selected, but if I use the Rectangular Marquee
>>>>>>>> Tool while zoomed out, the image either too much or too little of the
>>>>>>>> image is grabbed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So I have to zoom in to the pixel level at one corner, and then drag
>>>>>>>> the opposite corner of the selection to the opposite corner of the
>>>>>>>> image, and it can take minutes while scrolling at the pixel level to
>>>>>>>> get to the far edge of the image.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Robert
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If the image only occupies part of the canvas, select the blank border
>>>>>>> (Magic Wand on low tolerance) then Invert the selection.
>>>>>>> Sorry if I've misunderstood your problem.
>>>>>>> R.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, Ragnar.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That often doesn't work – even with a tolerance of 1 – because some
>>>>>> areas of the images are white or nearly white, so they, too become
>>>>>> selected when using your technique.
>>>>>
>>>>> in that case the trim command is more useful than the magic wand (as
>>>>> long as the surrounding canvas is monochrome):
>>>>
>>>> monochromatic, I should say
>>>
>>> And I still have no clue what the OP really want, and dunno how others
>>> come up with different answers those don't seem to have anything to do with
>>> the question?
>>
>> ok, let me describe my interpretation:
>>
>> The OP wants to select a rectangular subarea of an image. Other than
>> that he did not provide any further clues, so everybody is just guessing.
>
> That is/was what I read and I understood that s/he wants to select all (
> as I read the OP saying some part of the selection is larger than the
> canvas).
no, he said he wanted to select the image and in the next sentence he
said the canvas size is larger than the image size. This means the image
is a subarea of the canvas, not the other way round. So I will not
comment your reply any further since you've got the situation wrong.
Rereading the original posting, there is yet another simple solution:
select the rectangular masking tool, set feathering to 0px, make an
approximate selection, choose Select > Transform Selection, use the
navigation panel to zoom the image and to move it so one corner plus the
selection's corner is visible, adjust the selection, navigate to the
diagonally opposite corner and do the same, hit enter and voilà, a
perfect selection.
> > That is/was what I read and I understood that s/he wants to select all (
> > as I read the OP saying some part of the selection is larger than the
> > canvas).
>
> no, he said he wanted to select the image and in the next sentence he
> said the canvas size is larger than the image size.
On Sat, 29 May 2010 14:04:06 +0200, Rainer Latka <spam.trap@tiscali.de>
scribbled:
>On 28.May.10 23:34h, Joel wrote:
>> Rainer Latka<spam.trap@tiscali.de> wrote:
>>
>>> On 28.May.10 15:47h, Rainer Latka wrote:
>>>> On 28.May.10 1:32h, Robert Montgomery wrote:
>>>>> Ragnar wrote:
>>>>>> "Robert Montgomery"<info-block@northern-data-tech.net> wrote in
>>>>>> message news:7N%In.4626$z%6.986@edtnps83...
>>>>>>> How can I quickly select a rectangular image in CS3?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The canvas size exceeds the image size.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have Snap-To Guides selected, but if I use the Rectangular Marquee
>>>>>>> Tool while zoomed out, the image either too much or too little of the
>>>>>>> image is grabbed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I have to zoom in to the pixel level at one corner, and then drag
>>>>>>> the opposite corner of the selection to the opposite corner of the
>>>>>>> image, and it can take minutes while scrolling at the pixel level to
>>>>>>> get to the far edge of the image.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Robert
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If the image only occupies part of the canvas, select the blank border
>>>>>> (Magic Wand on low tolerance) then Invert the selection.
>>>>>> Sorry if I've misunderstood your problem.
>>>>>> R.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, Ragnar.
>>>>>
>>>>> That often doesn't work even with a tolerance of 1 because some
>>>>> areas of the images are white or nearly white, so they, too become
>>>>> selected when using your technique.
>>>>
>>>> in that case the trim command is more useful than the magic wand (as
>>>> long as the surrounding canvas is monochrome):
>>>
>>> monochromatic, I should say
>>
>> And I still have no clue what the OP really want, and dunno how others
>> come up with different answers those don't seem to have anything to do with
>> the question?
>
>ok, let me describe my interpretation:
>
>The OP wants to select a rectangular subarea of an image. Other than
>that he did not provide any further clues, so everybody is just guessing.
As I read it the OP wants to select the ENTIRE image:
"So I have to zoom in to the pixel level at one corner, and then drag
the opposite corner of the selection to the opposite corner of the
image, and it can take minutes while scrolling at the pixel level to
get to the far edge of the image."
On Sat, 29 May 2010 15:39:08 +0200, Rainer Latka <spam.trap@tiscali.de>
scribbled:
>no, he said he wanted to select the image and in the next sentence he
>said the canvas size is larger than the image size. This means the image
>is a subarea of the canvas, not the other way round. So I will not
>comment your reply any further since you've got the situation wrong.
Or the OP lacks the ability to express himself just like you lack the
flexibility to admit you could be utterly and completely wrong in your
interpretation of his barely coherent question.
On 29.May.10 17:46h, Voivod wrote:
> On Sat, 29 May 2010 14:04:06 +0200, Rainer Latka<spam.trap@tiscali.de>
> scribbled:
>
>> On 28.May.10 23:34h, Joel wrote:
>>> Rainer Latka<spam.trap@tiscali.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 28.May.10 15:47h, Rainer Latka wrote:
>>>>> On 28.May.10 1:32h, Robert Montgomery wrote:
>>>>>> Ragnar wrote:
>>>>>>> "Robert Montgomery"<info-block@northern-data-tech.net> wrote in
>>>>>>> message news:7N%In.4626$z%6.986@edtnps83...
>>>>>>>> How can I quickly select a rectangular image in CS3?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The canvas size exceeds the image size.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have Snap-To Guides selected, but if I use the Rectangular Marquee
>>>>>>>> Tool while zoomed out, the image either too much or too little of the
>>>>>>>> image is grabbed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So I have to zoom in to the pixel level at one corner, and then drag
>>>>>>>> the opposite corner of the selection to the opposite corner of the
>>>>>>>> image, and it can take minutes while scrolling at the pixel level to
>>>>>>>> get to the far edge of the image.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Robert
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If the image only occupies part of the canvas, select the blank border
>>>>>>> (Magic Wand on low tolerance) then Invert the selection.
>>>>>>> Sorry if I've misunderstood your problem.
>>>>>>> R.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, Ragnar.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That often doesn't work – even with a tolerance of 1 – because some
>>>>>> areas of the images are white or nearly white, so they, too become
>>>>>> selected when using your technique.
>>>>>
>>>>> in that case the trim command is more useful than the magic wand (as
>>>>> long as the surrounding canvas is monochrome):
>>>>
>>>> monochromatic, I should say
>>>
>>> And I still have no clue what the OP really want, and dunno how others
>>> come up with different answers those don't seem to have anything to do with
>>> the question?
>>
>> ok, let me describe my interpretation:
>>
>> The OP wants to select a rectangular subarea of an image. Other than
>> that he did not provide any further clues, so everybody is just guessing.
>
> As I read it the OP wants to select the ENTIRE image:
>
> "So I have to zoom in to the pixel level at one corner, and then drag
> the opposite corner of the selection to the opposite corner of the
> image, and it can take minutes while scrolling at the pixel level to
> get to the far edge of the image."
So what about the OP's statement:
>>>>>>>> The canvas size exceeds the image size.
To me this definitely sounds like the image fills just a subarea of the
canvas
and:
>>>>>>>> ... either too much or ... of the
>>>>>>>> image is grabbed.
If we were talking about the whole canvas area as you claim, how could
one select too much?
All these speculations dont leed anywhere. I'll keep quiet until/unless
the OP cares to enlighten us
On 29.May.10 17:48h, Voivod wrote:
> On Sat, 29 May 2010 15:39:08 +0200, Rainer Latka<spam.trap@tiscali.de>
> scribbled:
>
>> no, he said he wanted to select the image and in the next sentence he
>> said the canvas size is larger than the image size. This means the image
>> is a subarea of the canvas, not the other way round. So I will not
>> comment your reply any further since you've got the situation wrong.
>
> Or the OP lacks the ability to express himself just like you lack the
> flexibility to admit you could be utterly and completely wrong in your
> interpretation of his barely coherent question.
well, I dont think I'm lacking flexibility. I've read his postings
carefully, tried to interprete the little we know and proposed solutions
that fit _my_ understanding. If you read the OP's answer to Ragnar's
suggestion, I think it's obvious that his image does not fill the
canvas. Why would the OP ask at all, if the task were only to press ctrl-A?
> On 29.May.10 14:37h, Joel wrote:
> > Rainer Latka<spam.trap@tiscali.de> wrote:
> >
> >> On 28.May.10 23:34h, Joel wrote:
> >>> Rainer Latka<spam.trap@tiscali.de> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 28.May.10 15:47h, Rainer Latka wrote:
> >>>>> On 28.May.10 1:32h, Robert Montgomery wrote:
> >>>>>> Ragnar wrote:
> >>>>>>> "Robert Montgomery"<info-block@northern-data-tech.net> wrote in
> >>>>>>> message news:7N%In.4626$z%6.986@edtnps83...
> >>>>>>>> How can I quickly select a rectangular image in CS3?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The canvas size exceeds the image size.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I have Snap-To Guides selected, but if I use the Rectangular Marquee
> >>>>>>>> Tool while zoomed out, the image either too much or too little of the
> >>>>>>>> image is grabbed.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> So I have to zoom in to the pixel level at one corner, and then drag
> >>>>>>>> the opposite corner of the selection to the opposite corner of the
> >>>>>>>> image, and it can take minutes while scrolling at the pixel level to
> >>>>>>>> get to the far edge of the image.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Robert
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If the image only occupies part of the canvas, select the blank border
> >>>>>>> (Magic Wand on low tolerance) then Invert the selection.
> >>>>>>> Sorry if I've misunderstood your problem.
> >>>>>>> R.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks, Ragnar.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That often doesn't work – even with a tolerance of 1 – because some
> >>>>>> areas of the images are white or nearly white, so they, too become
> >>>>>> selected when using your technique.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> in that case the trim command is more useful than the magic wand (as
> >>>>> long as the surrounding canvas is monochrome):
> >>>>
> >>>> monochromatic, I should say
> >>>
> >>> And I still have no clue what the OP really want, and dunno how others
> >>> come up with different answers those don't seem to have anything to do with
> >>> the question?
> >>
> >> ok, let me describe my interpretation:
> >>
> >> The OP wants to select a rectangular subarea of an image. Other than
> >> that he did not provide any further clues, so everybody is just guessing.
> >
> > That is/was what I read and I understood that s/he wants to select all (
> > as I read the OP saying some part of the selection is larger than the
> > canvas).
>
> no, he said he wanted to select the image and in the next sentence he
> said the canvas size is larger than the image size. This means the image
> is a subarea of the canvas, not the other way round. So I will not
> comment your reply any further since you've got the situation wrong.
>
> Rereading the original posting, there is yet another simple solution:
> select the rectangular masking tool, set feathering to 0px, make an
> approximate selection, choose Select > Transform Selection, use the
> navigation panel to zoom the image and to move it so one corner plus the
> selection's corner is visible, adjust the selection, navigate to the
> diagonally opposite corner and do the same, hit enter and voilà, a
> perfect selection.
>
> Rainer
I reportsed his/her (I don't remember the name) original message, and I
gave Q & A to each separated confusions
On Sat, 29 May 2010 19:45:06 +0200, Rainer Latka <spam.trap@tiscali.de>
scribbled:
>On 29.May.10 17:46h, Voivod wrote:
>> On Sat, 29 May 2010 14:04:06 +0200, Rainer Latka<spam.trap@tiscali.de>
>> scribbled:
>>
>>> On 28.May.10 23:34h, Joel wrote:
>>>> Rainer Latka<spam.trap@tiscali.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 28.May.10 15:47h, Rainer Latka wrote:
>>>>>> On 28.May.10 1:32h, Robert Montgomery wrote:
>>>>>>> Ragnar wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Robert Montgomery"<info-block@northern-data-tech.net> wrote in
>>>>>>>> message news:7N%In.4626$z%6.986@edtnps83...
>>>>>>>>> How can I quickly select a rectangular image in CS3?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The canvas size exceeds the image size.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have Snap-To Guides selected, but if I use the Rectangular Marquee
>>>>>>>>> Tool while zoomed out, the image either too much or too little of the
>>>>>>>>> image is grabbed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So I have to zoom in to the pixel level at one corner, and then drag
>>>>>>>>> the opposite corner of the selection to the opposite corner of the
>>>>>>>>> image, and it can take minutes while scrolling at the pixel level to
>>>>>>>>> get to the far edge of the image.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Robert
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If the image only occupies part of the canvas, select the blank border
>>>>>>>> (Magic Wand on low tolerance) then Invert the selection.
>>>>>>>> Sorry if I've misunderstood your problem.
>>>>>>>> R.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks, Ragnar.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That often doesn't work even with a tolerance of 1 because some
>>>>>>> areas of the images are white or nearly white, so they, too become
>>>>>>> selected when using your technique.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> in that case the trim command is more useful than the magic wand (as
>>>>>> long as the surrounding canvas is monochrome):
>>>>>
>>>>> monochromatic, I should say
>>>>
>>>> And I still have no clue what the OP really want, and dunno how others
>>>> come up with different answers those don't seem to have anything to do with
>>>> the question?
>>>
>>> ok, let me describe my interpretation:
>>>
>>> The OP wants to select a rectangular subarea of an image. Other than
>>> that he did not provide any further clues, so everybody is just guessing.
>>
>> As I read it the OP wants to select the ENTIRE image:
>>
>> "So I have to zoom in to the pixel level at one corner, and then drag
>> the opposite corner of the selection to the opposite corner of the
>> image, and it can take minutes while scrolling at the pixel level to
>> get to the far edge of the image."
>
>So what about the OP's statement:
> >>>>>>>> The canvas size exceeds the image size.
>
>To me this definitely sounds like the image fills just a subarea of the
>canvas
To me it says he's fucked up his settings/preferences and has a serious
problem articulating what he's struggling with.
>and:
> >>>>>>>> ... either too much or ... of the
> >>>>>>>> image is grabbed.
>
>If we were talking about the whole canvas area as you claim, how could
>one select too much?
>
>All these speculations dont leed anywhere. I'll keep quiet until/unless
>the OP cares to enlighten us
>
>Rainer
>
On Sat, 29 May 2010 20:00:32 +0200, Rainer Latka <spam.trap@tiscali.de>
scribbled:
>On 29.May.10 17:48h, Voivod wrote:
>> On Sat, 29 May 2010 15:39:08 +0200, Rainer Latka<spam.trap@tiscali.de>
>> scribbled:
>>
>>> no, he said he wanted to select the image and in the next sentence he
>>> said the canvas size is larger than the image size. This means the image
>>> is a subarea of the canvas, not the other way round. So I will not
>>> comment your reply any further since you've got the situation wrong.
>>
>> Or the OP lacks the ability to express himself just like you lack the
>> flexibility to admit you could be utterly and completely wrong in your
>> interpretation of his barely coherent question.
>
>well, I dont think I'm lacking flexibility. I've read his postings
>carefully, tried to interprete the little we know and proposed solutions
>that fit _my_ understanding. If you read the OP's answer to Ragnar's
>suggestion, I think it's obvious that his image does not fill the
>canvas. Why would the OP ask at all, if the task were only to press ctrl-A?
Voivod wrote:
> On Sat, 29 May 2010 19:45:06 +0200, Rainer Latka <spam.trap@tiscali.de>
> scribbled:
>
>> On 29.May.10 17:46h, Voivod wrote:
>>> On Sat, 29 May 2010 14:04:06 +0200, Rainer Latka<spam.trap@tiscali.de>
>>> scribbled:
>>>
>>>> On 28.May.10 23:34h, Joel wrote:
>>>>> Rainer Latka<spam.trap@tiscali.de> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 28.May.10 15:47h, Rainer Latka wrote:
>>>>>>> On 28.May.10 1:32h, Robert Montgomery wrote:
>>>>>>>> Ragnar wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "Robert Montgomery"<info-block@northern-data-tech.net> wrote in
>>>>>>>>> message news:7N%In.4626$z%6.986@edtnps83...
>>>>>>>>>> How can I quickly select a rectangular image in CS3?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The canvas size exceeds the image size.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have Snap-To Guides selected, but if I use the Rectangular Marquee
>>>>>>>>>> Tool while zoomed out, the image either too much or too little of the
>>>>>>>>>> image is grabbed.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So I have to zoom in to the pixel level at one corner, and then drag
>>>>>>>>>> the opposite corner of the selection to the opposite corner of the
>>>>>>>>>> image, and it can take minutes while scrolling at the pixel level to
>>>>>>>>>> get to the far edge of the image.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Robert
>>>>>>>>> If the image only occupies part of the canvas, select the blank border
>>>>>>>>> (Magic Wand on low tolerance) then Invert the selection.
>>>>>>>>> Sorry if I've misunderstood your problem.
>>>>>>>>> R.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks, Ragnar.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That often doesn't work – even with a tolerance of 1 – because some
>>>>>>>> areas of the images are white or nearly white, so they, too become
>>>>>>>> selected when using your technique.
>>>>>>> in that case the trim command is more useful than the magic wand (as
>>>>>>> long as the surrounding canvas is monochrome):
>>>>>> monochromatic, I should say
>>>>> And I still have no clue what the OP really want, and dunno how others
>>>>> come up with different answers those don't seem to have anything to do with
>>>>> the question?
>>>> ok, let me describe my interpretation:
>>>>
>>>> The OP wants to select a rectangular subarea of an image. Other than
>>>> that he did not provide any further clues, so everybody is just guessing.
>>> As I read it the OP wants to select the ENTIRE image:
>>>
>>> "So I have to zoom in to the pixel level at one corner, and then drag
>>> the opposite corner of the selection to the opposite corner of the
>>> image, and it can take minutes while scrolling at the pixel level to
>>> get to the far edge of the image."
>> So what about the OP's statement:
>>>>>>>>>> The canvas size exceeds the image size.
>> To me this definitely sounds like the image fills just a subarea of the
>> canvas
>
> To me it says he's fucked up his settings/preferences and has a serious
> problem articulating what he's struggling with.
>
>> and:
>>>>>>>>>> ... either too much or ... of the
>>>>>>>>>> image is grabbed.
>> If we were talking about the whole canvas area as you claim, how could
>> one select too much?
>>
>> All these speculations dont leed anywhere. I'll keep quiet until/unless
>> the OP cares to enlighten us
>>
>> Rainer
I apologize, guys, for not being clear. Thanks for trying to help.
I'll rephrase the problem.
I made an image.
Then I expanded the canvas, so that the canvas is bigger than the image.
I saved the file, closed it and reopened it, so the History has been
wiped out.
Now I want to easily select the image so I can change the image size and
then the canvas size.
One of suggested Ctrl-A? What's that supposed to do? Do you mean
Command-A? I looked up "Ctrl'A" and "Control-A" in Adobe Help Viewer,
but it didn't find anything.
>Voivod wrote:
>> On Sat, 29 May 2010 19:45:06 +0200, Rainer Latka <spam.trap@tiscali.de>
>> scribbled:
>>
>>> On 29.May.10 17:46h, Voivod wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 29 May 2010 14:04:06 +0200, Rainer Latka<spam.trap@tiscali.de>
>>>> scribbled:
>>>>
>>>>> On 28.May.10 23:34h, Joel wrote:
>>>>>> Rainer Latka<spam.trap@tiscali.de> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 28.May.10 15:47h, Rainer Latka wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 28.May.10 1:32h, Robert Montgomery wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Ragnar wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "Robert Montgomery"<info-block@northern-data-tech.net> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> message news:7N%In.4626$z%6.986@edtnps83...
>>>>>>>>>>> How can I quickly select a rectangular image in CS3?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The canvas size exceeds the image size.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have Snap-To Guides selected, but if I use the Rectangular Marquee
>>>>>>>>>>> Tool while zoomed out, the image either too much or too little of the
>>>>>>>>>>> image is grabbed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So I have to zoom in to the pixel level at one corner, and then drag
>>>>>>>>>>> the opposite corner of the selection to the opposite corner of the
>>>>>>>>>>> image, and it can take minutes while scrolling at the pixel level to
>>>>>>>>>>> get to the far edge of the image.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Robert
>>>>>>>>>> If the image only occupies part of the canvas, select the blank border
>>>>>>>>>> (Magic Wand on low tolerance) then Invert the selection.
>>>>>>>>>> Sorry if I've misunderstood your problem.
>>>>>>>>>> R.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Ragnar.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That often doesn't work even with a tolerance of 1 because some
>>>>>>>>> areas of the images are white or nearly white, so they, too become
>>>>>>>>> selected when using your technique.
>>>>>>>> in that case the trim command is more useful than the magic wand (as
>>>>>>>> long as the surrounding canvas is monochrome):
>>>>>>> monochromatic, I should say
>>>>>> And I still have no clue what the OP really want, and dunno how others
>>>>>> come up with different answers those don't seem to have anything to do with
>>>>>> the question?
>>>>> ok, let me describe my interpretation:
>>>>>
>>>>> The OP wants to select a rectangular subarea of an image. Other than
>>>>> that he did not provide any further clues, so everybody is just guessing.
>>>> As I read it the OP wants to select the ENTIRE image:
>>>>
>>>> "So I have to zoom in to the pixel level at one corner, and then drag
>>>> the opposite corner of the selection to the opposite corner of the
>>>> image, and it can take minutes while scrolling at the pixel level to
>>>> get to the far edge of the image."
>>> So what about the OP's statement:
>>>>>>>>>>> The canvas size exceeds the image size.
>>> To me this definitely sounds like the image fills just a subarea of the
>>> canvas
>>
>> To me it says he's fucked up his settings/preferences and has a serious
>> problem articulating what he's struggling with.
>>
>>> and:
>>>>>>>>>>> ... either too much or ... of the
>>>>>>>>>>> image is grabbed.
>>> If we were talking about the whole canvas area as you claim, how could
>>> one select too much?
>>>
>>> All these speculations dont leed anywhere. I'll keep quiet until/unless
>>> the OP cares to enlighten us
>>>
>>> Rainer
>
>I apologize, guys, for not being clear. Thanks for trying to help.
>
>I'll rephrase the problem.
>
>I made an image.
>
>Then I expanded the canvas, so that the canvas is bigger than the image.
>
>I saved the file, closed it and reopened it, so the History has been
>wiped out.
>
>Now I want to easily select the image so I can change the image size and
>then the canvas size.
>
>
>
>
>One of suggested Ctrl-A? What's that supposed to do? Do you mean
>Command-A? I looked up "Ctrl'A" and "Control-A" in Adobe Help Viewer,
>but it didn't find anything.
>
>Robert
still isnt making much sense to me, unless you have multiple layers of
course. as the canvas and image are the same size on a new file.
usually you start with a canvas size you need for the end result.tv
screen, a4 etc.
ctrl a is PC shortcut for select all, command a is the mac equivalent
>Voivod wrote:
>> On Sat, 29 May 2010 19:45:06 +0200, Rainer Latka <spam.trap@tiscali.de>
>> scribbled:
>>
>>> On 29.May.10 17:46h, Voivod wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 29 May 2010 14:04:06 +0200, Rainer Latka<spam.trap@tiscali.de>
>>>> scribbled:
>>>>
>>>>> On 28.May.10 23:34h, Joel wrote:
>>>>>> Rainer Latka<spam.trap@tiscali.de> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 28.May.10 15:47h, Rainer Latka wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 28.May.10 1:32h, Robert Montgomery wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Ragnar wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "Robert Montgomery"<info-block@northern-data-tech.net> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> message news:7N%In.4626$z%6.986@edtnps83...
>>>>>>>>>>> How can I quickly select a rectangular image in CS3?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The canvas size exceeds the image size.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have Snap-To Guides selected, but if I use the Rectangular Marquee
>>>>>>>>>>> Tool while zoomed out, the image either too much or too little of the
>>>>>>>>>>> image is grabbed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So I have to zoom in to the pixel level at one corner, and then drag
>>>>>>>>>>> the opposite corner of the selection to the opposite corner of the
>>>>>>>>>>> image, and it can take minutes while scrolling at the pixel level to
>>>>>>>>>>> get to the far edge of the image.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Robert
>>>>>>>>>> If the image only occupies part of the canvas, select the blank border
>>>>>>>>>> (Magic Wand on low tolerance) then Invert the selection.
>>>>>>>>>> Sorry if I've misunderstood your problem.
>>>>>>>>>> R.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Ragnar.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That often doesn't work even with a tolerance of 1 because some
>>>>>>>>> areas of the images are white or nearly white, so they, too become
>>>>>>>>> selected when using your technique.
>>>>>>>> in that case the trim command is more useful than the magic wand (as
>>>>>>>> long as the surrounding canvas is monochrome):
>>>>>>> monochromatic, I should say
>>>>>> And I still have no clue what the OP really want, and dunno how others
>>>>>> come up with different answers those don't seem to have anything to do with
>>>>>> the question?
>>>>> ok, let me describe my interpretation:
>>>>>
>>>>> The OP wants to select a rectangular subarea of an image. Other than
>>>>> that he did not provide any further clues, so everybody is just guessing.
>>>> As I read it the OP wants to select the ENTIRE image:
>>>>
>>>> "So I have to zoom in to the pixel level at one corner, and then drag
>>>> the opposite corner of the selection to the opposite corner of the
>>>> image, and it can take minutes while scrolling at the pixel level to
>>>> get to the far edge of the image."
>>> So what about the OP's statement:
>>>>>>>>>>> The canvas size exceeds the image size.
>>> To me this definitely sounds like the image fills just a subarea of the
>>> canvas
>>
>> To me it says he's fucked up his settings/preferences and has a serious
>> problem articulating what he's struggling with.
>>
>>> and:
>>>>>>>>>>> ... either too much or ... of the
>>>>>>>>>>> image is grabbed.
>>> If we were talking about the whole canvas area as you claim, how could
>>> one select too much?
>>>
>>> All these speculations dont leed anywhere. I'll keep quiet until/unless
>>> the OP cares to enlighten us
>>>
>>> Rainer
>
>I apologize, guys, for not being clear. Thanks for trying to help.
>
>I'll rephrase the problem.
Badly.
>I made an image.
>
>Then I expanded the canvas, so that the canvas is bigger than the image.
Why?
>I saved the file, closed it and reopened it, so the History has been
>wiped out.
This isn't relevant.
>Now I want to easily select the image so I can change the image size and
>then the canvas size.
You're still not making much sense. If you're saying you've got a tiny
image on a big old plain/transparent background zoom til you can see
everything you want to keep then crop the extraneous. Fine tune it
later.
>One of suggested Ctrl-A? What's that supposed to do? Do you mean
>Command-A? I looked up "Ctrl'A" and "Control-A" in Adobe Help Viewer,
>but it didn't find anything.
It would probably help to mention OS and version of Pshop too. Oh, and
try stopping in more often than once a month too.
On 06.Jun.10 7:16h, Robert Montgomery wrote:
> Voivod wrote:
>> On Sat, 29 May 2010 19:45:06 +0200, Rainer Latka <spam.trap@tiscali.de>
>> scribbled:
>>
>>> On 29.May.10 17:46h, Voivod wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 29 May 2010 14:04:06 +0200, Rainer Latka<spam.trap@tiscali.de>
>>>> scribbled:
>>>>
>>>>> On 28.May.10 23:34h, Joel wrote:
>>>>>> Rainer Latka<spam.trap@tiscali.de> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 28.May.10 15:47h, Rainer Latka wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 28.May.10 1:32h, Robert Montgomery wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Ragnar wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "Robert Montgomery"<info-block@northern-data-tech.net> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> message news:7N%In.4626$z%6.986@edtnps83...
>>>>>>>>>>> How can I quickly select a rectangular image in CS3?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The canvas size exceeds the image size.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have Snap-To Guides selected, but if I use the Rectangular
>>>>>>>>>>> Marquee
>>>>>>>>>>> Tool while zoomed out, the image either too much or too
>>>>>>>>>>> little of the
>>>>>>>>>>> image is grabbed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So I have to zoom in to the pixel level at one corner, and
>>>>>>>>>>> then drag
>>>>>>>>>>> the opposite corner of the selection to the opposite corner
>>>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>>>> image, and it can take minutes while scrolling at the pixel
>>>>>>>>>>> level to
>>>>>>>>>>> get to the far edge of the image.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Robert
>>>>>>>>>> If the image only occupies part of the canvas, select the
>>>>>>>>>> blank border
>>>>>>>>>> (Magic Wand on low tolerance) then Invert the selection.
>>>>>>>>>> Sorry if I've misunderstood your problem.
>>>>>>>>>> R.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Ragnar.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That often doesn't work – even with a tolerance of 1 – because
>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>> areas of the images are white or nearly white, so they, too become
>>>>>>>>> selected when using your technique.
>>>>>>>> in that case the trim command is more useful than the magic wand
>>>>>>>> (as
>>>>>>>> long as the surrounding canvas is monochrome):
>>>>>>> monochromatic, I should say
>>>>>> And I still have no clue what the OP really want, and dunno how
>>>>>> others
>>>>>> come up with different answers those don't seem to have anything
>>>>>> to do with
>>>>>> the question?
>>>>> ok, let me describe my interpretation:
>>>>>
>>>>> The OP wants to select a rectangular subarea of an image. Other than
>>>>> that he did not provide any further clues, so everybody is just
>>>>> guessing.
>>>> As I read it the OP wants to select the ENTIRE image:
>>>>
>>>> "So I have to zoom in to the pixel level at one corner, and then drag
>>>> the opposite corner of the selection to the opposite corner of the
>>>> image, and it can take minutes while scrolling at the pixel level to
>>>> get to the far edge of the image."
>>> So what about the OP's statement:
>>>>>>>>>>> The canvas size exceeds the image size.
>>> To me this definitely sounds like the image fills just a subarea of
>>> the canvas
>>
>> To me it says he's fucked up his settings/preferences and has a serious
>> problem articulating what he's struggling with.
>>
>>> and:
>>>>>>>>>>> ... either too much or ... of the
>>>>>>>>>>> image is grabbed.
>>> If we were talking about the whole canvas area as you claim, how
>>> could one select too much?
>>>
>>> All these speculations dont leed anywhere. I'll keep quiet
>>> until/unless the OP cares to enlighten us
>>>
>>> Rainer
>
> I apologize, guys, for not being clear. Thanks for trying to help.
>
> I'll rephrase the problem.
>
> I made an image.
>
> Then I expanded the canvas, so that the canvas is bigger than the image.
>
> I saved the file, closed it and reopened it, so the History has been
> wiped out.
>
> Now I want to easily select the image so I can change the image size and
> then the canvas size.
so why dont you read the advice given in this thread? (yes, some of
these advices have been wrong/misleading). I've proposed three solutions
that will work:
28 may, 15:47h+15:51h
29 May, 14:04h and finally
29 May, 15:39h
the latter one coming closest to your request
Rainer
>
>
>
>
> One of suggested Ctrl-A? What's that supposed to do? Do you mean
> Command-A? I looked up "Ctrl'A" and "Control-A" in Adobe Help Viewer,
> but it didn't find anything.
>
> Robert
> I apologize, guys, for not being clear. Thanks for trying to help.
>
> I'll rephrase the problem.
>
> I made an image.
>
> Then I expanded the canvas, so that the canvas is bigger than the image.
>
> I saved the file, closed it and reopened it, so the History has been
> wiped out.
>
> Now I want to easily select the image so I can change the image size and
> then the canvas size.
Your newer cleaner question/explanation is still as clear as mud.
1. "I made an image."
Got it!
2. "Then I expanded the canvas, so that the canvas is bigger than the image"
Got the slideshow how you use the command to create another Layer/Canvas
which happen to be larger than the original photo. BUT it still give no
clue
a. what you are trying to do
b. why you want a larger canvas size
c. do you understand the difference between RATIO, Resolution (PDI),
Compression, and W x H etc..?
> One of suggested Ctrl-A? What's that supposed to do? Do you mean
> Command-A? I looked up "Ctrl'A" and "Control-A" in Adobe Help Viewer,
> but it didn't find anything.
Ctrl-A is for "PC" and PS doesn't have "Command" key I think it's only
available in the MAC's world. I am not MAC user to know anything about MAC.
And I would say if you want some help solving your problem then spelling
out exactly what you want the final photo may look like instead of asking
how to use some command(s) that you don't know. Example (general)
1. If you want to print to a larger size.
You DO NOT need to make a larger canvas size
2. If you want the picture displays larger on monitor
You DO NOT need to *move* to a larger canvas size
3. If you want to print the *original* to 3 times larger than *previous*
print. I hi-lite the words "original" and "previous" because I don't know
what you have, what you did to it. Or because it doesn't matter
You DO NOT need to make a larger canvas size
Example, I just printed 1/2 dozen 24x36" prints for my client from the
previous 4x6" print, and I didn't need to make the 24x36" canvas as it's
already been there from the very beginning.
Joel wrote:
> Robert Montgomery <info-block@northern-data-tech.net> wrote:
>
>> I apologize, guys, for not being clear. Thanks for trying to help.
>>
>> I'll rephrase the problem.
>>
>> I made an image.
>>
>> Then I expanded the canvas, so that the canvas is bigger than the image.
>>
>> I saved the file, closed it and reopened it, so the History has been
>> wiped out.
>>
>> Now I want to easily select the image so I can change the image size and
>> then the canvas size.
>
> Your newer cleaner question/explanation is still as clear as mud.
>
> 1. "I made an image."
>
> Got it!
>
> 2. "Then I expanded the canvas, so that the canvas is bigger than the image"
>
> Got the slideshow how you use the command to create another Layer/Canvas
> which happen to be larger than the original photo. BUT it still give no
> clue
>
> a. what you are trying to do
I'm making images so that they have white borders when I print them on
white paper or artist's canvas.
I'm taking some of my files that already have white borders and I want
to expand them so that they print at a bigger size.
To do that I need to isolate the image from the canvas.
When I make a white border all around the image, the image size then
includes the canvas size.
I want to isolate the image from the surrounding, white border, so I can
trim the border, blow up the image and then add back a border size which
in most cases is different from the previous canvas size.
Therefore, in most cases I'm adjusting not only the image size, but also
the size of the white border.
The white borders are not the same on all sides. They need to be shorter
on the top of the image, wider on the bottom, and usually wider oo the
right than the left.
> b. why you want a larger canvas size
So that the white borders on the printed images is different from size
of the white borders that I had made and printed previously,
> c. do you understand the difference between RATIO, Resolution (PDI),
> Compression, and W x H etc..?
Yes.
>> One of suggested Ctrl-A? What's that supposed to do? Do you mean
>> Command-A? I looked up "Ctrl'A" and "Control-A" in Adobe Help Viewer,
>> but it didn't find anything.
>
> Ctrl-A is for "PC" and PS doesn't have "Command" key I think it's only
> available in the MAC's world. I am not MAC user to know anything about MAC.
What we Mac users call "Command" is the key two keys to the right of the
Control key. Pressing that key along with the "A" key "selects all".
>
> And I would say if you want some help solving your problem then spelling
> out exactly what you want the final photo may look like instead of asking
> how to use some command(s) that you don't know. Example (general)
>
> 1. If you want to print to a larger size.
>
> You DO NOT need to make a larger canvas size
I know that. The reason I need to adjust the canvas size is because I'm
more experienced now at using canvas pliers, so I've concluded that I
need a border of 2.25 inches around my images. This includes 1.375
inches to wrap around the sides of the wooden stretcher bars, and .875
inches for the back of the stretcher bars, for the canvas pliers to
grip, so I can pull the canvas tightly around the wooden bar, before
stapling the canvas to the wooden stretcher bars.
Therefore, the previous canvas sizes that I've designated in P CS3 are
now not the right sizes and need to be adjusted.
>
> 2. If you want the picture displays larger on monitor
>
> You DO NOT need to *move* to a larger canvas size
I know that.
I'm using CS3 on a Mac. (I found a Mac-specific Photoshop newsgroup –
a.p.macintosh – but it has only 15 messages in it, so I'm less likely to
get help there. This group now has 479 messages in it.)
>I apologize, guys, for not being clear. Thanks for trying to help.
>
>I'll rephrase the problem.
>
>I made an image.
>
>Then I expanded the canvas, so that the canvas is bigger than the image.
>
>I saved the file, closed it and reopened it, so the History has been
>wiped out.
>
>Now I want to easily select the image so I can change the image size and
>then the canvas size.
>
>
>
>
>One of suggested Ctrl-A? What's that supposed to do? Do you mean
>Command-A? I looked up "Ctrl'A" and "Control-A" in Adobe Help Viewer,
>but it didn't find anything.
>
>Robert
Hold CONTROL, hit "A". That selects entire workspace. Then switch to magic
wand, hold ALT and click on the 'empty' canvas. You now should have just the
image.
Sir F. A. Rien wrote:
> Robert Montgomery <info-block@northern-data-tech.net> found these unused
> words:
>
>> I apologize, guys, for not being clear. Thanks for trying to help.
>>
>> I'll rephrase the problem.
>>
>> I made an image.
>>
>> Then I expanded the canvas, so that the canvas is bigger than the image.
>>
>> I saved the file, closed it and reopened it, so the History has been
>> wiped out.
>>
>> Now I want to easily select the image so I can change the image size and
>> then the canvas size.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> One of suggested Ctrl-A? What's that supposed to do? Do you mean
>> Command-A? I looked up "Ctrl'A" and "Control-A" in Adobe Help Viewer,
>> but it didn't find anything.
>>
>> Robert
>
> Hold CONTROL, hit "A". That selects entire workspace. Then switch to magic
> wand, hold ALT and click on the 'empty' canvas. You now should have just the
> image.
Thanks, Sir Rien.
That solution has already been proposed by someone and rejected (by me)
in this thread, because the canvas is white, and some parts of the
images are also white – or near white – so even with feather radius set
to the minimum (0.2 pixels) some areas of the image get selected along
with the entire border when I do Alt > click on the canvas, with the
magic wand tool.
Rainer Latka wrote:
> On 06.Jun.10 7:16h, Robert Montgomery wrote:
>>
>> I apologize, guys, for not being clear. Thanks for trying to help.
>>
>> I'll rephrase the problem.
>>
>> I made an image.
>>
>> Then I expanded the canvas, so that the canvas is bigger than the image.
>>
>> I saved the file, closed it and reopened it, so the History has been
>> wiped out.
>>
>> Now I want to easily select the image so I can change the image size and
>> then the canvas size.
>
> so why dont you read the advice given in this thread? (yes, some of
> these advices have been wrong/misleading). I've proposed three solutions
> that will work:
> 28 may, 15:47h+15:51h
> 29 May, 14:04h and finally
> 29 May, 15:39h
> the latter one coming closest to your request
>
> Rainer
I tried Image > Trim, as you suggested. It did trim some pixels, but not
the right ones.
I want the border to be removed, and that's not what the Trim command is
for.
Adobe Help says this about Trim:
Choose Image > Trim.
In the Trim dialog box, select an option:
Transparent Pixels to trim away transparency at the edges of the image,
leaving the smallest image containing nontransparent pixels.
Top Left Pixel Color to remove an area the color of the upper left pixel
from the image.
Bottom Right Pixel Color to remove an area the color of the lower right
pixel from the image.
Select one or more areas of the image to trim away: Top, Bottom, Left,
or Right."
Despite that description, I don't understand what Trim is for, but it's
not for removing the canvas surrounding a square or rectangular image.
However, I think I just discovered the best solution.
I just made my grid very fine – down to the pixel level. In P >
Preferences > Guides, Grids, Slices snd Count, I made Guidelines every 1
pixel, and Subdivisions every one pixel.
With those preferences set, I can zoom to a corner of my images at about
300 percent, instead of zooming in all the way to 3200 percent.
At 300 percent zoom, I can click and drag the Rectangular Marquee Tool
diagonally from one corner to the opposite corner of the rectangular or
square image, and the marquee snaps precisely to the edge of the image.
If I zoom out any further and try this (i.e. 200 percent)then I'm less
likely to get the rectangular Marquee Tool to snap precisely to the edge
of the images; I'll more likely get a strip of white canvas included in
the selection, or to miss a little strip of the image at the edge.
I have the View > Snap, and also the View > Snap To > Guides both selected.
At 300 percent magnification, I can scroll diagonally from one corner of
the images to the opposite corner of the images (to select the images)
much faster than if I'm zoomed all the way (3200 percent in the case of
the file I'm currently working on.)
On 06.Jun.10 19:50h, Robert Montgomery wrote:
> Rainer Latka wrote:
>> On 06.Jun.10 7:16h, Robert Montgomery wrote:
>
>>>
>>> I apologize, guys, for not being clear. Thanks for trying to help.
>>>
>>> I'll rephrase the problem.
>>>
>>> I made an image.
>>>
>>> Then I expanded the canvas, so that the canvas is bigger than the image.
>>>
>>> I saved the file, closed it and reopened it, so the History has been
>>> wiped out.
>>>
>>> Now I want to easily select the image so I can change the image size and
>>> then the canvas size.
>>
>> so why dont you read the advice given in this thread? (yes, some of
>> these advices have been wrong/misleading). I've proposed three
>> solutions that will work:
>> 28 may, 15:47h+15:51h
>> 29 May, 14:04h and finally
>> 29 May, 15:39h
>> the latter one coming closest to your request
>>
>> Rainer
>
> I tried Image > Trim, as you suggested. It did trim some pixels, but not
> the right ones.
ok, lets try to do it together:
first we'll perform the step by which you increased the canvas size:
* you've got an image of, say, 300 px by 500 px
* you're increasing the canvas size using "canvas size" in the image
menu by, say, 100 px in each direction. So this results in a new total
size of 500 px by 700 px.
* now we are at the situation when you posted your question: an image
surrounded by a border 100 px wide. This border is monochromatic, since
the "canvas size" command does exactly this.
* next you're asking "How can I quickly select a rectangular image in
CS3?" and "The canvas size exceeds the image size.“
* in this situation the trim command removes exactly the border that you
have created using the canvas size command.
>
> I want the border to be removed, and that's not what the Trim command is
> for.
of course it does exactly this. Since you used the canvas size command
to create the border which is therefore monochromatic, the trim command
will remove all of it unless you deselected some of the tick marks in
the trim options
>
> Adobe Help says this about Trim:
>
> Choose Image > Trim.
> In the Trim dialog box, select an option:
> Transparent Pixels to trim away transparency at the edges of the image,
> leaving the smallest image containing nontransparent pixels.
> Top Left Pixel Color to remove an area the color of the upper left pixel
> from the image.
> Bottom Right Pixel Color to remove an area the color of the lower right
> pixel from the image.
> Select one or more areas of the image to trim away: Top, Bottom, Left,
> or Right."
>
> Despite that description, I don't understand what Trim is for, but it's
> not for removing the canvas surrounding a square or rectangular image.
yes, of course it is. This is exactly what it's meant for. Just try it,
following my example.
>
>
> However, I think I just discovered the best solution.
>
> I just made my grid very fine – down to the pixel level. In P >
> Preferences > Guides, Grids, Slices snd Count, I made Guidelines every 1
> pixel, and Subdivisions every one pixel.
>
> With those preferences set, I can zoom to a corner of my images at about
> 300 percent, instead of zooming in all the way to 3200 percent.
>
> At 300 percent zoom, I can click and drag the Rectangular Marquee Tool
> diagonally from one corner to the opposite corner of the rectangular or
> square image, and the marquee snaps precisely to the edge of the image.
>
> If I zoom out any further and try this (i.e. 200 percent)then I'm less
> likely to get the rectangular Marquee Tool to snap precisely to the edge
> of the images; I'll more likely get a strip of white canvas included in
> the selection, or to miss a little strip of the image at the edge.
>
> I have the View > Snap, and also the View > Snap To > Guides both selected.
>
> At 300 percent magnification, I can scroll diagonally from one corner of
> the images to the opposite corner of the images (to select the images)
> much faster than if I'm zoomed all the way (3200 percent in the case of
> the file I'm currently working on.)
you might still want to learn / understand what the
select > transform selection
command is intended for. ;-)
>That solution has already been proposed by someone and rejected (by me)
>in this thread, because the canvas is white, and some parts of the
>images are also white or near white so even with feather radius set
>to the minimum (0.2 pixels) some areas of the image get selected along
>with the entire border when I do Alt > click on the canvas, with the
>magic wand tool.
Here's an idea. Discard this abortion of a screw up, reload the original
image and start over. You of course were smart enough NOT to edit the
only copy of your image, right?