On to CS5

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gowanoh
May 1, 2010
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The free trial download is available.
The new gee whiz feature is content aware fill. The Adobe demo looks amazing.
My brief experience with a comparable photo, not surprisingly, less so. Works impressively filling in patterned areas, astoundingly in some cases. Unlike in the demo you cannot remove a cloud or flare from bland sky areas without seeing banding or other artifacts. At least I can’t. I am also not sure I see content aware fill making the spot healing brush work all that much better than prior versions either, at least in the photos I have played with in both CS4 and CS5. I never really liked that tool much anyway so I may be biased.
I am not flaming, just wondering if anyone else has played with this feature and what you think. Can’t blame Adobe for hyping it.

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DeclanWorld
May 14, 2010
"c_atiel" wrote in message
The free trial download is available.

Quick comparison with CS3 and CS5:

For me, the spot healing brush works now in the way I’d hoped it would have in previous versions.

The clone stamp is greatly improved.

Dodge and burn are much more subtle, almost intuitive.

Refine edge on selections is fabulous.

Content-aware doesn’t work in all situations but it’s wonderful in others.

The ‘thirds’ in the crop tool is very welcome but it’s something I’d expected to have seen many versions ago.

Puppet Warp is welcome but to what degree will become more apparent later.

HDR Toning has revealed hidden detail in some complete darks in a few of my photos.

Declan
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Joel
May 14, 2010
"DeclanWorld" wrote:

"c_atiel" wrote in message
The free trial download is available.

Quick comparison with CS3 and CS5:

Can you give little more detail. I am still using CS3 but have a quick look at my grand-daughter CS4 few times (she works as graphic designer and her company provides her with all softwares she needs)

For me, the spot healing brush works now in the way I’d hoped it would have in previous versions.

I have looked at Healing Brush and Healing Patch of CS3 which to me is kinda fun to toy with, but not for serious work (I work on very detail)

The clone stamp is greatly improved.

Clone tool or Clone Stamp? Clone Tool isn’t one of my main tools, but I do use it once awhile to work on skin-texture that I am not happy with the Healing tool.

Here, I am sometime repairing damaged skin and keeping the skin-texture so I don’t use Clone Stamp to know much about it (I only tested it few times many years ago).

Dodge and burn are much more subtle, almost intuitive.

I do use Dodge/Burn commands pretty often (usually on the eyes, lips, sometime on the teeth etc.) but not too heavy on this tool.

Refine edge on selections is fabulous.

Never care for this tool. It was one of the tools I used quite often when first learning Photoshop, but haven’t used it for many years.

Content-aware doesn’t work in all situations but it’s wonderful in others.

No idea what you are talking about (new feature?).

The ‘thirds’ in the crop tool is very welcome but it’s something I’d expected to have seen many versions ago.

In general, don’t see much or any difference except the interface of CS4 gave me some problem. Or CS4 comes with some default pre-sets that gave me some confusing

Puppet Warp is welcome but to what degree will become more apparent later.

I saw this new "Puppet Warp" on a review and I dunno what I want to do with it. I find the "Liquify" of CS3 is pretty useful and I do use it quite often.

HDR Toning has revealed hidden detail in some complete darks in a few of my photos.

I have read and hearing people swearing about it for years, but because as a professional photographer I don’t have free permission to make many errors so I haven’t had a chance to try the HDR options. I mean the standalone, plug-ins, and trick etc..

BTW, is HDR is some kind of recovery damaged tool (like under or over-explosured type)? or it can use on normal photo too. Normal I mean really for printing without any adjusting.

Declan
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DeclanWorld
May 14, 2010
"Joel" wrote in message

I have looked at Healing Brush and Healing Patch of CS3 which to me is kinda fun to toy with, but not for serious work (I work on very detail)

Well it’s seriously great for getting rid of unwanted content such as overhead cables, telegraph poles, facial blemishes.

Clone tool or Clone Stamp? Clone Tool isn’t one of my main tools, but I do use it once awhile to work on skin-texture that I am not happy with the

Clone stamp tool.

Here, I am sometime repairing damaged skin and keeping the skin-texture so I don’t use Clone Stamp to know much about it (I only tested it few times many years ago).

The spot healing brush tool is invaluable here.

Refine edge on selections is fabulous.

Never care for this tool. It was one of the tools I used quite often when first learning Photoshop, but haven’t used it for many years.

I spend a lot of time cutting/copying people/objects – refine edge does a wonderful job with the finest detail.

Content-aware doesn’t work in all situations but it’s wonderful in others.

No idea what you are talking about (new feature?).

First appeared in CS4 – you’d need to see it in action.

The ‘thirds’ in the crop tool is very welcome but it’s something I’d expected to have seen many versions ago.

I saw this new "Puppet Warp" on a review and I dunno what I want to do with it. I find the "Liquify" of CS3 is pretty useful and I do use it quite often.

Well it’s similar to Liquify but CS5 keeps you in the image unlike the Liquify window.

BTW, is HDR is some kind of recovery damaged tool (like under or over-explosured type)? or it can use on normal photo too. Normal I mean really for printing without any adjusting.

I don’t know anything about the prime purpose of HDR, just that the HDR toning adjustment has revealed some detail in annoying dark areas of a photo.

Have a look at the excellent tutorials on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/user/lyndapodcast#p/u

Declan
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Joel
May 15, 2010
"DeclanWorld" wrote:

"Joel" wrote in message

I have looked at Healing Brush and Healing Patch of CS3 which to me is kinda fun to toy with, but not for serious work (I work on very detail)

Well it’s seriously great for getting rid of unwanted content such as overhead cables, telegraph poles, facial blemishes.

If we are talking about landscape photo then I agree with you that it’s a goood tool. Facial blemishes could be another story as I have mentioned I work on small detail (of portrait) and facial blemishes, blood veines (usually on elder), damged skin (many women cover their faces with layers of foundation, make etc..), and the healing tool isn’t the ideal tool. It’s ok for some people, small photo (not large and closeup)

Clone tool or Clone Stamp? Clone Tool isn’t one of my main tools, but I do use it once awhile to work on skin-texture that I am not happy with the

Clone stamp tool.

Here, I am sometime repairing damaged skin and keeping the skin-texture so I don’t use Clone Stamp to know much about it (I only tested it few times many years ago).

The spot healing brush tool is invaluable here.

Healing spot is kinda ok for small spot but not very good for large/long spot, and it seems to work better than Healing Patch (but healing patch is quicker).

I think these are good tools for most people, and I do use it sometime too. But for detail work and large area then I still have to use the combination of Clone Tool and Quick Mask

Refine edge on selections is fabulous.

Never care for this tool. It was one of the tools I used quite often when first learning Photoshop, but haven’t used it for many years.

I spend a lot of time cutting/copying people/objects – refine edge does a wonderful job with the finest detail.

Replacing or working on background is one of my main parts, and I never use selection. Yes, I do make a real quick selection (in seconds to around 1 min), but never use it to select either foreground or background.

As I have mentioned that it was the one I used in the first few years, but never happy with the result so I stopped using it many years ago. Yes, I have seen quite a bit of improvement on each newer version, but still not good enough for my use.

Content-aware doesn’t work in all situations but it’s wonderful in others.

No idea what you are talking about (new feature?).

First appeared in CS4 – you’d need to see it in action.

Thanks. I am still using CS3 to know about this. I will Google for some info about this.

The ‘thirds’ in the crop tool is very welcome but it’s something I’d expected to have seen many versions ago.

I saw this new "Puppet Warp" on a review and I dunno what I want to do with it. I find the "Liquify" of CS3 is pretty useful and I do use it quite often.

Well it’s similar to Liquify but CS5 keeps you in the image unlike the Liquify window.

From the video it seems quite different than the Liquify … may be closer to Liquify of CS4?

Ohhh… I think I see what you mean by similar to Liquify as from the video it does have some similar feature/option but more than the Liquify. Is any chance the Puppt Warp work on Smart Object?

I will find out more detail of these.

BTW, is HDR is some kind of recovery damaged tool (like under or over-explosured type)? or it can use on normal photo too. Normal I mean really for printing without any adjusting.

I don’t know anything about the prime purpose of HDR, just that the HDR toning adjustment has revealed some detail in annoying dark areas of a photo.

I have seen quite afew in the past few years, but most if not all samples I seen are talking about fixing some overexplosured photo by combining multiple photos.

And I still wondering how they get 2 or more either exact or similar photos to begin with.

Have a look at the excellent tutorials on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/user/lyndapodcast#p/u

The Puppet Warp. One of the samples I seen was from Lynda web page, and they all quite different than what I use Liquify for. Example what I use Liquify for.

– Repairing the EYE(s), NOSE, FACE shape etc..

– Fixing the HAIR

– Removing or reducing DOUBLE-CHIN

– Removing or reducing some lose skin on wrong place of body

And as you mention above about "BACKGROUND" then you know how important to have the foreground and background blended smoothly together, and I can do this with Liquify. But not so sure about the Puppet Warp (by the samples I have seen).

Below is another sample of Puppet Wrap which doesn’t answer my question, and it seems more like showing off than .. can’t find a right word for this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swUrO56IINQ

Declan
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DeclanWorld
May 16, 2010
"Joel" wrote in message
"DeclanWorld" wrote:

"Joel" wrote in message

I have looked at Healing Brush and Healing Patch of CS3 which to me is
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Joel, why don’t you give it a free try:
https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/tdrc/index.cfm?product=photosh op

Declan

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