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anteperkovic
Jun 13, 2004
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Hi,

I was experimenting with my digital camera and I mistakenly took some photos with wrongly set white balance, so some of my pictures look too blue.

I have some photos of the same area in natural color. Is there any whay to correct the "blue" picture with the help of "natural color" picture?

Thanks,
Ante

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tacitr
Jun 13, 2004
I was experimenting with my digital camera and I mistakenly took some photos with wrongly set white balance, so some of my pictures look too blue.

Color correction is one of Photoshop’s strengths; it allows very precise, professional-level image color manipulation.

IOn the case of an overall color cast, you’re likely to get excellent results by using Image->Adjust->Curves. This will allow you to correct the unwanted blue.


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Bob Shomler
Jun 13, 2004
Ante Perkovic wrote:
Hi,

I was experimenting with my digital camera and I mistakenly took some photos with wrongly set white balance, so some of my pictures look too blue.

I have some photos of the same area in natural color. Is there any whay to correct the "blue" picture with the help of "natural color" picture?

Thanks,
Ante

In PS CS you might try Image > Adjustment > Match Color using your "natural color" image as the source. Also try checking the Neutralize box.

In PS 7 and CS, Auto Color might assist with getting an initial curves adjustment — not using PS defaults, though. Bruce Fraser has a good description on how to set this up and do it in a creativepro article "Out of Gamut: Don’t Underestimate Photoshop’s Auto Color" –

www.creativepro.com/story/feature/17164-1.html

NB. What appears blue could be cyan; experiment with the red channel with the curves tool.

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Mike Russell
Jun 14, 2004
Ante Perkovic wrote:
Hi,

I was experimenting with my digital camera and I mistakenly took some photos with wrongly set white balance, so some of my pictures look too blue.

Curvemeister has some canned curves that address your problem.

http://curvemeister.com/tutorials/what_ails_you/index.htm

I have some photos of the same area in natural color. Is there any whay to correct the "blue" picture with the help of "natural color" picture?

Try the canned curves first to get close, then add another curve correction layer, and fine tune the midpoint of each of the r, g, and b curves. BTW – neutral colored objects are worth their weight in gold for this process. —

Mike Russell
www.curvemeister.com
www.geigy.2y.net
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anteperkovic
Jun 16, 2004
"Mike Russell" …
Ante Perkovic wrote:
Hi,

I was experimenting with my digital camera and I mistakenly took some photos with wrongly set white balance, so some of my pictures look too blue.

Thanks, Mike

In beetween time, I took photos of the same object with camera set on "auto" and later on "M" with that bad white (more like blue) color. Photos are perfectly aligned, and the only difference is in blue hue of one of them.

Is there any way to just say to my computer: "This is good one and this is bad one. Make bad one look like good one and then do the same actions on those other pictures"?

Curvemeister has some canned curves that address your problem.
http://curvemeister.com/tutorials/what_ails_you/index.htm
I have some photos of the same area in natural color. Is there any whay to correct the "blue" picture with the help of "natural color" picture?

Try the canned curves first to get close, then add another curve correction layer, and fine tune the midpoint of each of the r, g, and b curves. BTW – neutral colored objects are worth their weight in gold for this process.

Thanks,
Ante
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Mike Russell
Jun 16, 2004
Ante Perkovic wrote:
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Ante Perkovic wrote:
Hi,

I was experimenting with my digital camera and I mistakenly took some
photos with wrongly set white balance, so some of my pictures look too
blue.

Thanks, Mike

In beetween time, I took photos of the same object with camera set on "auto" and later on "M" with that bad white (more like blue) color. Photos are perfectly aligned, and the only difference is in blue hue of one of them.

Is there any way to just say to my computer: "This is good one and this is bad one. Make bad one look like good one and then do the same actions on those other pictures"?

I don’t know of an automated tool in PS that will then pass parameters on to a batched procedure.

You could do a manual procedure, setting several info points on each of the images. The create a set of curves designed to make r, g, and b curves to values line up. I’d suggest starting with the white balance color correction curves at Curvemeister and tuning them up.

There is also a new color match command in CS that works by making the histograms line up with one another.


Mike Russell
www.curvemeister.com
www.geigy.2y.net
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Mike Russell
Jun 16, 2004
Ante Perkovic wrote:
[re correcting a set of photographs taken with the wrong color balance setting]
In beetween time, I took photos of the same object with camera set on "auto" and later on "M" with that bad white (more like blue) color. Photos are perfectly aligned, and the only difference is in blue hue of one of them.

Is there any way to just say to my computer: "This is good one and this is bad one. Make bad one look like good one and then do the same actions on those other pictures"?

Ante,

This problem’s been in the back of my mind for some time, and because of your question a light bulb just turned on. After a lot of thinking I think I know how to do it using the demo version of my Curvemeister plugin.

Basically the problem breaks down to this: "Here are two images. Give me a curve that turns one image into the other." For lack of a better name, I’m calling this process "curve extraction", because we would be "extracting" a curve using the data from two similar images.

The current demo version of curvemeister has enough functionality. Once you extract the curve, you may use Photoshop to do the final batch correction based on the curve calculated by curvemeister.

The curvemeister demo may be installed from:
http://www.curvemeister.com/downloads/cmdemo/index.htm

Keep in mind this is still only a theoretical procedure. You may want to wait until I get the bugs out, and do a tutorial, but here’s my current thoughts on the procedure:

1) Open your correctly white balanced (reference) image in Photoshop.

2) Start the curvemeister filter (the demo version will do)

3) Select RGB mode, and click the "All" tab to show all the curves at once.

4) Alt-click the image to create a sample point at a mid tone, or something close. Use a sample size of 11×11, and pick broad areas of color, rather than areas of mixed detail.

5) Alt-click on a quarter tone and a three quarter tone

6) Add more points as necessary, making sure that none of the resulting cont rol points lie "too close" to one another on the curve. You can refine this later on in the process by removing extra points.

7) Right click on each sample point, and select the "Pin To>Current" item. You must do this once for each sample point.

8) Right click on the image, and save your sample points to a file.

9) Click Cancel.

10) Open your incorrectly balanced (target) file in Photoshop and start Curvemeister.

11) Right click on the image, and load the sample points from the file you just saved. The image should look pretty good at this point, or you may need to "tune" the curves as follows.

12) To tune the curves, look in the curve window for any kinks that indicate two curve control points (these are different from the image window’s sample points) are too close to one another, and drag off one of the offending curve control points until each channel has a relatively smooth curve. If necessary during the tuning, you may click the Reset button to restore all the curve points will come back, and you can start again.

13) When you’re happy with the image appearance, click the save button and save the curve.

To use your curve, you may hit ctrl-F for each image you want to color correct. If you have an entire folder, make an action using either curvemeister or Photoshop’s own curves operation.

Not all images may be rescuable with this procedure. In particular images taken indoors may have a blue channel that is so dark that curve extraction is not possible. This particular situation might be addressed by using Photoshop’s channel mixer to move some of the green channel into the blue before doing the curve extraction.

I’m excited about the new applications for this, and will be doing a tutorial shortly. Using curves in this way may provide a curve based alternative to the more expensive profiling packages.


Mike Russell
www.curvemeister.com
www.geigy.2y.net
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Mike Russell
Jun 19, 2004
Ante Perkovic wrote:
[re correcting a set of photographs taken with the wrong color balance setting]
In between time, I took photos of the same object with camera set on "auto" and later on "M" with that bad white (more like blue) color. Photos are perfectly aligned, and the only difference is in blue hue of one of them.

Is there any way to just say to my computer: "This is good one and this is bad one. Make bad one look like good one and then do the same actions on those other pictures"?

Since my initial response to Ante’s post, I’ve experimented with a procedure, which I call "curve extraction", that addresses this problem by creating a curve to convert the colors of one image to another. The curve file may then be made into an action and to batch convert a large number of images if necessary.

I believe this is the first time this procedure has been automated using a curve-based tool. I’m really quite excited about this, and hope there are a lot of comments.

If you are curious about curve extraction, check out the tutorial here: http://www.curvemeister.com/tutorials/Curve%20Extraction/ind ex.html

The free demo of Curvemeister currently has sufficient functionality to perform this procedure.


Mike Russell
www.curvemeister.com
www.geigy.2y.net
MR
Mike Russell
Jun 19, 2004
Ante Perkovic wrote:
[re correcting a set of photographs taken with the wrong color balance setting]
In between time, I took photos of the same object with camera set on "auto" and later on "M" with that bad white (more like blue) color. Photos are perfectly aligned, and the only difference is in blue hue of one of them.

Is there any way to just say to my computer: "This is good one and this is bad one. Make bad one look like good one and then do the same actions on those other pictures"?

Since my initial response to Ante’s post, I’ve experimented with a procedure, which I call "curve extraction", that addresses this problem by creating a curve to convert the colors of one image to another. The curve file may then be made into an action and to batch convert a large number of images if necessary.

I believe this is the first time this procedure has been automated using a curve-based tool. I’m really quite excited about this, and hope there are a lot of comments.

If you are curious about curve extraction, check out the tutorial here: http://www.curvemeister.com/tutorials/Curve%20Extraction/ind ex.html

The free demo of Curvemeister currently has sufficient functionality to perform this procedure.


Mike Russell
www.curvemeister.com
www.geigy.2y.net
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savecurve
Jun 19, 2004
Mike Russell wrote:
Ante Perkovic wrote:
[re correcting a set of photographs taken with the wrong color balance setting]
In between time, I took photos of the same object with camera set on "auto" and later on "M" with that bad white (more like blue) color. Photos are perfectly aligned, and the only difference is in blue hue of one of them.

Is there any way to just say to my computer: "This is good one and this is bad one. Make bad one look like good one and then do the same actions on those other pictures"?

Since my initial response to Ante’s post, I’ve experimented with a procedure, which I call "curve extraction", that addresses this problem by creating a curve to convert the colors of one image to another. The curve file may then be made into an action and to batch convert a large number of images if necessary.

I believe this is the first time this procedure has been automated using a curve-based tool. I’m really quite excited about this, and hope there are a lot of comments.

Is this any different from saving a curve settings from one image, and loading it to similar images? Did I miss something?

If you are curious about curve extraction, check out the tutorial here: http://www.curvemeister.com/tutorials/Curve%20Extraction/ind ex.html
The free demo of Curvemeister currently has sufficient functionality to perform this procedure.


Mike Russell
www.curvemeister.com
www.geigy.2y.net

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