Correcting pink prints -help?

Kakadu wrote:

For most of last year I used a Canon bubblejet printer besid my Minolta Migicolor laser. Whenever I sent work to a lad, the photos came back looking pretty much the way they printed on the Canon.
Yesterday I bought a Epson R310 printer to replace the Canon. I particularly like the CD printing feature however… When I print to this printer, I get a shift to red which requires 20 points of correction in both yellow and magenta on the Epson colour correction sliders. Clearly there is something amiss. What is where I have a problem!

The ICM profile being automatically selected by the print driver is EE261__1.
The color space used in Photoshop (CS) is adobe RGB. Any help is welcome.

Make sure you are printing using Printer Color Management. If you print to the profile of the printer, you will get double profiling. This is a common cause of magenta cast for epson printers.
—

Mike Russell
www.curvemeister.com
www.geigy.2y.net

Kakadu schrieb:

…
Yesterday I bought a Epson R310 printer to replace the Canon. I particularly like the CD printing feature however… When I print to this printer, I get a shift to red which requires 20 points of correction in both yellow and magenta on the Epson colour correction sliders. Clearly there is something amiss. What is where I have a problem!

The ICM profile being automatically selected by the print driver is EE261__1.
The color space used in Photoshop (CS) is adobe RGB. Any help is welcome.

Hi Kakadu –

Ian Lyons discusses very clear and sophisticated such color casts when printing with Epson printers. Especially such profiles like EE261__1 are mostly only for internal conversion as he describes. You should download special profiles for this printer (if they exist) or use the internal color management of Epson.
I just was very much frustrated with my Epson 2100 printer until I read Ion Lyons pages.

Please have a look at
http://www.computer-darkroom.com
or the special
http://www.computer-darkroom.com/ps7_print/ps7_print_mac.htm

Regards Udo

Thanks for your informative reply Mike.
I removed the ICM from the printer menu and the whole print got a lot better right away. Could you tell me please where I find "printer Colour Management"? Is it part of Photoshop or the Epson driver? Thanks,
K
"Mike Russell" wrote in message

Make sure you are printing using Printer Color Management. If you print

to

the profile of the printer, you will get double profiling. This is a

common

cause of magenta cast for epson printers.
—

Mike Russell
www.curvemeister.com
www.geigy.2y.net

This is going from bad to worse.
I downloaded the *special* ICM profiles from Epson and applied them to the colour management, as described in Epson’s own RBG printing reference. The results are terrible.
When I switch off all colour management and print without any colour management in either Photoshop or Epson I get a basically correct colour, with very dark print. This I can correct with Advanced settings of the printer driver.

It does not however address the magenta cast from ‘print image management’ which I think is a great idea if it can ever be made to work the way it was intended. I guess I’ll just have to plod along bouncing from good to bad until I discover a workable method. Not really a recommendation for Epson, is it? Plug in a Canon s9000 and it just prints at nearly perfect colour and density match.

All the information on computer darkroom is quite dated and not really applicable in a specific sense to 6 colour Epson printers. I went through weeks of this configuration hell to get my Perfection 4870 scanner working properly. Why Epson can’t get it right out of the box is beyond me. If the end result wasn’t the best quality prints you can have, you wouldn’t bother, would you?

K
——————–

"Udo Huebner" wrote in message

Kakadu schrieb:

…
Yesterday I bought a Epson R310 printer to replace the Canon. I

particularly

like the CD printing feature however… When I print to this printer, I

get

a shift to red which requires 20 points of correction in both yellow and magenta on the Epson colour correction sliders. Clearly there is

something

amiss. What is where I have a problem!

The ICM profile being automatically selected by the print driver is EE261__1.
The color space used in Photoshop (CS) is adobe RGB. Any help is

welcome.

Hi Kakadu –

Ian Lyons discusses very clear and sophisticated such color casts when printing with Epson printers. Especially such profiles like EE261__1 are mostly only for internal conversion as he describes. You should download special profiles for this printer (if they exist) or use the internal color management of Epson.
I just was very much frustrated with my Epson 2100 printer until I read Ion Lyons pages.

Please have a look at
http://www.computer-darkroom.com
or the special
http://www.computer-darkroom.com/ps7_print/ps7_print_mac.htm
Regards Udo

Kakadu schrieb:

This is going from bad to worse.

In your answer I am recognizing your frustration. 🙁

I downloaded the *special* ICM profiles from Epson and applied them to the colour management, as described in Epson’s own RBG printing reference. The results are terrible.
When I switch off all colour management and print without any colour management in either Photoshop or Epson I get a basically correct colour, with very dark print. This I can correct with Advanced settings of the printer driver.

My opinion is that Epsons informations are terrible.
The main mistake I made was to let Photoshop _and_ the printer driver make the conversions which, of course, lead to those terrible results. Your mentioned magenta cast is typical.

So, please take the "dated" (I don’t think so) informations of Ion Lyon on computer darkroom. They are really helpful in understanding things, especially because you will find screen shots which help to clarify things.

…
All the information on computer darkroom is quite dated and not really applicable in a specific sense to 6 colour Epson printers.

I would not agree. My printer is the 7 color Stylus photo 2100 which is rather new but especially mentioned in Ion Lyons page.

Good luck and regards Udo

If things get real magenta, then ICC color corrections are probably being done twice, and if it’s real green, then it’s not being done at all anywhere.

Mike