Deselect won’t really "deselect"

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Nov 15, 2011
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I need help understanding the "deselect" (ctrl-D) command. First, I open an existing *.bmp file and make a first selection (using the lasso tool, the magic wand, or, rectangle). The selected area lights up, I copy it to the clipboard, paste it back onto my image, and then edit the selection with "warp", and/or image adjustments (color, brightness, etc). I hit "enter" to accept the edits, and then I hit CTRL-D to un-select that area (the lit-up border goes away).

However, that original "selection" doggedly remains as the "current" selection to Photoshop because when I try to make a second selection (in a completely different area of my image), photoshop keeps on reverting back to my original first selection. So, even though my new second selection has its borders "lit up", when I try to edit this lit- up second selection (with "warp", "scale", "distort", etc.), the control points appear around the original FIRST selection, completely ignoring my prior "deselect" of that area, and of my second selection which even still has its borders lit up as if it had been "selected".

How do I get photoshop to UNSELECT my original first selection, so that I can edit my second selection. The only workaround I have now is to SAVE the image, CLOSE the image, and then re-open it. When I do that, the original selection is finally GONE, so I can proceed with my edits on my second selection – and so forth. I need to be able to effectively UNSELECT any selection that I am finished with and to get photoshop to allow me to go ahead and make a new selection without being reverted back to the prior selection.

Help.

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John J Stafford
Nov 16, 2011
Create a new layer via copy before doing anything else.
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nomail
Nov 16, 2011
surface9 wrote:
I need help understanding the "deselect" (ctrl-D) command. First, I open an existing *.bmp file and make a first selection (using the lasso tool, the magic wand, or, rectangle). The selected area lights up, I copy it to the clipboard, paste it back onto my image, and then edit the selection with "warp", and/or image adjustments (color, brightness, etc). I hit "enter" to accept the edits, and then I hit CTRL-D to un-select that area (the lit-up border goes away).
However, that original "selection" doggedly remains as the "current" selection to Photoshop because when I try to make a second selection (in a completely different area of my image), photoshop keeps on reverting back to my original first selection. So, even though my new second selection has its borders "lit up", when I try to edit this lit- up second selection (with "warp", "scale", "distort", etc.), the control points appear around the original FIRST selection, completely ignoring my prior "deselect" of that area, and of my second selection which even still has its borders lit up as if it had been "selected".

When you paste something, it becomes a new layer. You are still working in that new layer because you didn’t change that, so anything you do can only affect the pixels of that new layer. You can try to select a wider area, but as there are no pixels beyond what you pasted, the result is that all the pixels in the layer get selected again.


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Carrie
Nov 16, 2011
"surface9" wrote in message
I need help understanding the "deselect" (ctrl-D) command. First, I open an existing *.bmp file and make a first selection (using the lasso tool, the magic wand, or, rectangle). The selected area lights up, I copy it to the clipboard, paste it back onto my image, and then edit the selection with "warp", and/or image adjustments (color, brightness, etc). I hit "enter" to accept the edits, and then I hit CTRL-D to un-select that area (the lit-up border goes away).
However, that original "selection" doggedly remains as the "current" selection to Photoshop because when I try to make a second selection (in a completely different area of my image), photoshop keeps on reverting back to my original first selection. So, even though my new second selection has its borders "lit up", when I try to edit this lit- up second selection (with "warp", "scale", "distort", etc.), the control points appear around the original FIRST selection, completely ignoring my prior "deselect" of that area, and of my second selection which even still has its borders lit up as if it had been "selected".

How do I get photoshop to UNSELECT my original first selection, so that I can edit my second selection. The only workaround I have now is to SAVE the image, CLOSE the image, and then re-open it. When I do that, the original selection is finally GONE, so I can proceed with my edits on my second selection – and so forth. I need to be able to effectively UNSELECT any selection that I am finished with and to get photoshop to allow me to go ahead and make a new selection without being reverted back to the prior selection.

Help.

Merge down?
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Joel
Nov 16, 2011
surface9 wrote:

I need help understanding the "deselect" (ctrl-D) command. First, I open an existing *.bmp file and make a first selection (using the lasso tool, the magic wand, or, rectangle). The selected area lights up, I copy it to the clipboard, paste it back onto my image, and then edit the selection with "warp", and/or image adjustments (color, brightness, etc). I hit "enter" to accept the edits, and then I hit CTRL-D to un-select that area (the lit-up border goes away).

You do not want to Ctrl-D as it will deselect the whole thing. You can learn to use +/-

Just Hold Down the SHIFT key then you will see the pointer will have the + symbol, which means you can ADD to the existing

Hold Down the ALT key then the pointer will have the – symbol, which means you can subtract from the existing.

And my advice, DO NOT use Magic Wand or Holy Cross as the magical tool, it’s ok to learn new command but not good tool for serious work. You should learn to use LAYER and Layer Mask or similar instead.
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John J Stafford
Nov 16, 2011
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Joel wrote:

surface9 wrote:

I need help understanding the "deselect" (ctrl-D) command. First, I open an existing *.bmp file and make a first selection (using the lasso tool, the magic wand, or, rectangle). The selected area lights up, I copy it to the clipboard, paste it back onto my image, and then edit the selection with "warp", and/or image adjustments (color, brightness, etc). I hit "enter" to accept the edits, and then I hit CTRL-D to un-select that area (the lit-up border goes away).

You do not want to Ctrl-D as it will deselect the whole thing. You can learn to use +/-

Just Hold Down the SHIFT key then you will see the pointer will have the + symbol, which means you can ADD to the existing

Hold Down the ALT key then the pointer will have the – symbol, which means you can subtract from the existing.

And my advice, DO NOT use Magic Wand or Holy Cross as the magical tool, it’s ok to learn new command but not good tool for serious work. You should learn to use LAYER and Layer Mask or similar instead.

Joel, you are the MAN! Thanks!

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davsf
Nov 17, 2011
Thanks so much to you all for helping me out. My problem was that I hadn’t yet figured out about LAYERS, and I didn’t even have the layers palette open – but I went and read a couple of aftermarket books and now I see the value, and power, of using layers. I am uplearning from years using MSPAINT, so, the concept of layers is new – thanks for tipping me off on that.

I am learning about photoshop CS2, and, I am seeing that it is so much more powerful than MSPAINT that I kick myself for waiting so long. It might take a bit more thought and setup, but the powerful tools and features are well worth it, and, thanks to the helpful posters on this group, I am starting to get it.
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Joel
Nov 18, 2011
surface9 wrote:

Thanks so much to you all for helping me out. My problem was that I hadn’t yet figured out about LAYERS, and I didn’t even have the layers palette open – but I went and read a couple of aftermarket books and now I see the value, and power, of using layers. I am uplearning from years using MSPAINT, so, the concept of layers is new – thanks for tipping me off on that.

I am learning about photoshop CS2, and, I am seeing that it is so much more powerful than MSPAINT that I kick myself for waiting so long. It might take a bit more thought and setup, but the powerful tools and features are well worth it, and, thanks to the helpful posters on this group, I am starting to get it.

LAYER is one of the most advanced features of graphic editting you don’t want to go without it. Then with LAYER you should learn Layer Mask as it goes super well with Layer.

Try *not to* compare one thing to other, as it won’t be the right way to learn, to explore Photoshop or whatever you try to explore. IOW, just try to do whatever the program requires you to do instead of wishing it does the way others do (life won’t work this way).

Try to make thing as simplest as possible. LAYER for example

– Just treat it as a Carbon Paper

– Just treat it as *another* image

IOW, treat it as an individual image, when you understand the whole thing then it will work together as single image (layer).

Also, point your browser to YOUTUBE to learn new commands, new tricks etc. by watching the VIDEO. DO NOT pay attention to small detail but trying to capture the general, or you may not know which is more important to remember. Just learn the IDEA then learn the HOW TO later
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Voivod
Nov 18, 2011
On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 06:58:02 -0600, Joel scribbled:

DO NOT pay attention to small detail but trying to
capture the general, or you may not know which is more important to remember. Just learn the IDEA then learn the HOW TO later

And learn where the CAPS Lock key is so you don’t type like this dipshit.
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Carrie
Nov 18, 2011
"Joel" wrote in message
surface9 wrote:

I need help understanding the "deselect" (ctrl-D) command. First, I open an existing *.bmp file and make a first selection (using the lasso tool, the magic wand, or, rectangle). The selected area lights up, I copy it to the clipboard, paste it back onto my image, and then edit the selection with "warp", and/or image adjustments (color, brightness, etc). I hit "enter" to accept the edits, and then I hit CTRL-D to un-select that area (the lit-up border goes away).

You do not want to Ctrl-D as it will deselect the whole thing. You can learn to use +/-

Just Hold Down the SHIFT key then you will see the pointer will have the + symbol, which means you can ADD to the existing

Hold Down the ALT key then the pointer will have the – symbol, which means you can subtract from the existing.

And my advice, DO NOT use Magic Wand or Holy Cross as the magical tool, it’s ok to learn new command but not good tool for serious work. You should
learn to use LAYER and Layer Mask or similar instead.

Good to know…

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