Down & Dirty Shippping…

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stupid_idiot
Nov 12, 2003
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FYI….Scott’s down & dirty for PS CS arrived today via amazon…..with all the supposed improvements….I hope it will be worth
it…and, it seems daily that more CS titles are showing up in Amazon.

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JK
JP Kabala
Nov 13, 2003
It’s been in Borders here for a couple of weeks….
They have LOTS of CS titles…
I’ll be interested in your impression….
"stupid_idiot" wrote in message
FYI….Scott’s down & dirty for PS CS arrived today via amazon…..with
all the supposed improvements….I hope it will be worth
it…and, it seems daily that more CS titles are showing up in Amazon.
SI
stupid_idiot
Nov 13, 2003
wow..thanks for the tip…we only have one Borders in our state…but, will make the journey to check them out….

"JP Kabala" wrote in message
It’s been in Borders here for a couple of weeks….
They have LOTS of CS titles…
I’ll be interested in your impression….
"stupid_idiot" wrote in message
FYI….Scott’s down & dirty for PS CS arrived today via amazon…..with
all the supposed improvements….I hope it will be worth
it…and, it seems daily that more CS titles are showing up in Amazon.

JK
JP Kabala
Nov 13, 2003
might be worth a call first, but they had easily three times as many PSCS books as Barnes and Noble,
and Books a Million had zero as of Sunday…..
"stupid_idiot" wrote in message
wow..thanks for the tip…we only have one Borders in our state…but,
will make the journey to check them out….
"JP Kabala" wrote in message
It’s been in Borders here for a couple of weeks….
They have LOTS of CS titles…
I’ll be interested in your impression….
"stupid_idiot" wrote in message
FYI….Scott’s down & dirty for PS CS arrived today via
amazon…..with
all the supposed improvements….I hope it will be worth
it…and, it seems daily that more CS titles are showing up in Amazon.

SI
stupid_idiot
Nov 13, 2003
i was just at our local barners (anchorage) and they had none.

probably arriving any day.

"JP Kabala" wrote in message
might be worth a call first, but they had easily three times as many PSCS books as Barnes and Noble,
and Books a Million had zero as of Sunday…..
"stupid_idiot" wrote in message
wow..thanks for the tip…we only have one Borders in our state…but,
will make the journey to check them out….
"JP Kabala" wrote in message
It’s been in Borders here for a couple of weeks….
They have LOTS of CS titles…
I’ll be interested in your impression….
"stupid_idiot" wrote in message
FYI….Scott’s down & dirty for PS CS arrived today via
amazon…..with
all the supposed improvements….I hope it will be worth
it…and, it seems daily that more CS titles are showing up in Amazon.

Y
Yitz
Nov 14, 2003
Let us know what you think of his new book!

Yitz

"stupid_idiot" wrote in message
FYI….Scott’s down & dirty for PS CS arrived today via amazon…..with
all the supposed improvements….I hope it will be worth
it…and, it seems daily that more CS titles are showing up in Amazon.
SI
stupid_idiot
Nov 14, 2003
so far it looks like 100% rehash…..I have yet to find anything that says "New in Photoshop CS you
can do this….". Stay tuned.

"Yitz" wrote in message
Let us know what you think of his new book!

Yitz

"stupid_idiot" wrote in message
FYI….Scott’s down & dirty for PS CS arrived today via amazon…..with
all the supposed improvements….I hope it will be worth
it…and, it seems daily that more CS titles are showing up in Amazon.

JK
JP Kabala
Nov 14, 2003
ummmm…. that was my first impression, too.

Have you seen Daniel Giordan’s Art of Photoshop?
THAT’s a book. Gorgeous images, good explanations
of techniques (if a little pretentious at times, but the goods are there) CD of resource files…

Website is http://www.artofphotoshop.com/
Bought it in Miami at PSW, and I LOVE it.

"stupid_idiot" wrote in message
so far it looks like 100% rehash…..I have yet to find anything that says
"New in Photoshop CS you
can do this….". Stay tuned.

"Yitz" wrote in message
Let us know what you think of his new book!

Yitz

"stupid_idiot" wrote in message
FYI….Scott’s down & dirty for PS CS arrived today via
amazon…..with
all the supposed improvements….I hope it will be worth
it…and, it seems daily that more CS titles are showing up in Amazon.

SI
stupid_idiot
Nov 15, 2003
great…thanks for your post…will check it out…

"JP Kabala" wrote in message
ummmm…. that was my first impression, too.

Have you seen Daniel Giordan’s Art of Photoshop?
THAT’s a book. Gorgeous images, good explanations
of techniques (if a little pretentious at times, but the goods are there) CD of resource files…

Website is http://www.artofphotoshop.com/
Bought it in Miami at PSW, and I LOVE it.

"stupid_idiot" wrote in message
so far it looks like 100% rehash…..I have yet to find anything that says
"New in Photoshop CS you
can do this….". Stay tuned.

"Yitz" wrote in message
Let us know what you think of his new book!

Yitz

"stupid_idiot" wrote in message
FYI….Scott’s down & dirty for PS CS arrived today via
amazon…..with
all the supposed improvements….I hope it will be worth
it…and, it seems daily that more CS titles are showing up in Amazon.

WS
Warren Sarle
Nov 15, 2003
"stupid_idiot" wrote in message
so far it looks like 100% rehash…..I have yet to find anything that says
"New in Photoshop CS you
can do this….". Stay tuned.

Wrong. The book is 100% new. But it is not about "What’s New in Photoshop CS". Neither was the last edition about "What’s New in Photoshop 7". Nevertheless, you will find many tips about new features in CS if you go to the bother of actually reading the book.
JK
JP Kabala
Nov 15, 2003
I think the real issue is that new CS features are so heavily skewed toward photo and video that any book that
isn’t photocentric has a hard time feeling new.

and I have read D&D….most of the CS stuff is in the sidebars….but it felt like an afterthought…there
are some good tutorials in the book, but they
clearly weren’t written to showcase PSCS

so far, Art of Photoshop is still my favorite new book….

Russell Brown’s is fun, and has some really interesting
stuff, but, as I said in another post, it suffers from a bit of an identity crisis…the techniques demo’d are fairly advanced, but the gonzo style–which I can appreciate.
but I really like Russell’s offbeat approach–
will turn off some pros.

I’ve pre-ordered Bert Monroy’s Commercial Photoshop….
but I doubt it will drop before 1/1….
if anyone will have an illustrator’s slant on CS, he will. I also want to check out Colin Smith & Al Ward’s
new book, too. Willmore’s and Haynes and Crumpler’s
won’t ship til after Christmas.

"Warren Sarle" wrote in message
"stupid_idiot" wrote in message
so far it looks like 100% rehash…..I have yet to find anything that
says
"New in Photoshop CS you
can do this….". Stay tuned.

Wrong. The book is 100% new. But it is not about "What’s New in Photoshop CS". Neither was the last edition about "What’s New in Photoshop 7". Nevertheless, you will find many tips about new features in CS if you go to the bother of actually reading the book.
SI
stupid_idiot
Nov 15, 2003
Warren…good point…I have not actually ‘read’ the book….I just scanned the various topics and they seemed old stuff. And, then I did see the sidebar stuff. So, I guess my expectation of content delivery was skewed.

"Warren Sarle" wrote in message
"stupid_idiot" wrote in message
so far it looks like 100% rehash…..I have yet to find anything that says
"New in Photoshop CS you
can do this….". Stay tuned.

Wrong. The book is 100% new. But it is not about "What’s New in Photoshop CS". Neither was the last edition about "What’s New in Photoshop 7". Nevertheless, you will find many tips about new features in CS if you go to the bother of actually reading the book.
SI
stupid_idiot
Nov 17, 2003
<snip>Nevertheless, you will find many tips about new
features in CS if you go to the bother of actually reading the book.</snip>

Ok…so, I am now reading the book. Page 60.. "In Photoshop CS, Adobe included some photographic
brushes that….fish…fruit….."

Well, I could not find those brush libraries anywhere….but, maybe, once again, buying the Suite versus the single copy upgrades was the error.

Or, my rant is really about publishers trying to be the first to the bookstore and publishing inaccurate information.

The QUICK TIPS on the outside margins of each page have not visual associations.

So, here is my final review. C- Quickly read Scott’s magazines at the bookstore but I would not recommend this book.

JK
JP Kabala
Nov 17, 2003
When I was at PSW the first week of October, the D&D book was already printed (they
were selling it in the NAPP/Peachpit/New Riders booth) but in one of the sessions
that week, Bert Monroy told the 350 or so of us that there were enhancements to the brush engine that had been tested, but, for whatever reason, would not ship
with PSCS. I suspect that these brushes are part of what Bert was talking about.

Authors walk a tightrope— you want to be timely with the goods, but having tried to
write about other software while it is still in beta, you are chasing a moving target.
In one particularly memorable instance, I had 3/4 of a user guide written when
the developer decided that about half of the icons needed to be changed,and all
of the menus needed to be reorganized. Nearly every screen shot and every example
needed to be changed and edited. ugh.

As I’ve said before, I’ve not upgraded yet…After seeing it at PSW, I’m reading everything I can get my hands on looking for that killer new feature
or features that will make me feel like I need PSCS.

"stupid_idiot" wrote in message
<snip>Nevertheless, you will find many tips about new
features in CS if you go to the bother of actually reading the
book.</snip>
Ok…so, I am now reading the book. Page 60.. "In Photoshop CS, Adobe
included some photographic
brushes that….fish…fruit….."

Well, I could not find those brush libraries anywhere….but, maybe, once
again, buying the Suite
versus the single copy upgrades was the error.

Or, my rant is really about publishers trying to be the first to the
bookstore and publishing
inaccurate information.

The QUICK TIPS on the outside margins of each page have not visual
associations.
So, here is my final review. C- Quickly read Scott’s magazines at the
bookstore but I would not
recommend this book.


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