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I would like to know if there is a plug-in to Photoshop for a blur that is effected by a gradient (or values of gray from another layer or image file) much like the gradient blur in After Effects?
Alison wrote:
I would like to know if there is a plug-in to Photoshop for a blur that is effected by a gradient (or values of gray from another layer or image file) much like the gradient blur in After Effects?
You just need to discover layers and masking, plus the wonder of internet tutorials.
The Doormouse
Alison wrote:I would like to know if there is a plug-in to Photoshop for a blur that is effected by a gradient (or values of gray from another layer or image file) much like the gradient blur in After Effects?
You just need to discover layers and masking, plus the wonder of internet tutorials.
The Doormouse
The short answer is, Photoshop CS’ Lens Blur can do it (some versions of KPT may also). There is no simple way to get the correct result with e.g. Photoshop’s Gaussian Blur.
You just need to discover layers and masking, plus the wonder of internet tutorials.
There is a difference between
1) mixing a blurred and an unblurred image (trivial with layers), and
2) continuously varying the blur amount across an image (difficult to
do without a special purpose tool).
I would like to know if there is a plug-in to Photoshop for a blur that is effected by a gradient (or values of gray from another layer or image file) much like the gradient blur in After Effects?
-Alison
I would like to know there is such a plug-in for Photoshop and where I might find it.
Alison wrote:
I would like to know there is such a plug-in for Photoshop and where I might find it.
It would be trivial to create a similar one-click action for this effect.
Automation is a beautiful thing.
I am far too cheap and lazy to buy plugins when I can duplicate theeffects
for free …
The Doormouse
—
The Doormouse cannot be reached by e-mail without her permission.
I would like to know there is such a plug-in for Photoshop and where I might find it.
It would be trivial to create a similar one-click action for this effect.
translation: for me anyway – ‘cus I’m brilliant – screw you!Automation is a beautiful thing.
translation: bullshit is a beautiful thing.
I am far too cheap and lazy to buy plugins when I can duplicate theeffects
for free …
translation: I am far too arrogant and lazy to actually help anybody!The Doormouse
On 7/17/04 10:21 AM, in article iBaKc.77$,effect.
"Kleee" wrote:
I would like to know there is such a plug-in for Photoshop and where I might find it.
It would be trivial to create a similar one-click action for this
ontranslation: for me anyway – ‘cus I’m brilliant – screw you!Automation is a beautiful thing.
translation: bullshit is a beautiful thing.
I am far too cheap and lazy to buy plugins when I can duplicate theeffects
for free …
translation: I am far too arrogant and lazy to actually help anybody!The Doormouse
The lazy part isn’t on the part of the The Doormouse. The original poster was asking for a plug-in to do something that is already within the capabilities of Photoshop. A little digging in the manual or short search
the internet would have turned it up.tells
It’s like asking your car salesman to sell or give you something that
how fast you’re driving…
—
Jeff ‘The Wizard of Draws’ Bucchino
Cartoons with a Touch of Magic
"Wizard of Draws" wrote in messageI
On 7/17/04 10:21 AM, in article iBaKc.77$,
"Kleee" wrote:
I would like to know there is such a plug-in for Photoshop and where
postereffect.might find it.
It would be trivial to create a similar one-click action for this
translation: for me anyway – ‘cus I’m brilliant – screw you!Automation is a beautiful thing.
translation: bullshit is a beautiful thing.
I am far too cheap and lazy to buy plugins when I can duplicate theeffects
for free …
translation: I am far too arrogant and lazy to actually help anybody!The Doormouse
The lazy part isn’t on the part of the The Doormouse. The original
searchwas asking for a plug-in to do something that is already within the capabilities of Photoshop. A little digging in the manual or short
on
the internet would have turned it up.tells
It’s like asking your car salesman to sell or give you something that
how fast you’re driving…
—
Jeff ‘The Wizard of Draws’ Bucchino
Cartoons with a Touch of Magic
For your information: The manual does NOT explain how to do this… have you read it lately?
For your information: The manual does NOT explain how to do this… have you read it lately?
Kleee
You option number 2 is exactly what I want to be able to do! 🙂 -Alison
Alison wrote:Then she wrote:
I would like to know if there is a plug-in to Photoshop for a blur that is effected by a gradient (or values of gray from another layer or image file) much like the gradient blur in After Effects?
-Alison
The way it works is this: the brighter the gradient gets the higher the blur radius; the only control to set is just how high the blur radius is at pure white.
Then most everyone else wrote:I would like to know there is such a plug-in for Photoshop and where I might find it.
Thank you,
-Alison
What you are looking for is the use of a layer mask.
I would like to know if there is a plug-in to Photoshop for a blur that is effected by a gradient (or values of gray from another layer or image file) much like the gradient blur in After Effects?
-Alison
I am far too arrogant and lazy…
Forgive me Kleee – hang loose, be coolwhere
The skills in being a trainer are very sophisticated. With something like PSCS it is a very complicated marriage between aspiration (what I want to do) with technology (what are the magic buttons?)
I am sure u know & appreciate this already
Artie
"Kleee" wrote in message
"Wizard of Draws" wrote in message
On 7/17/04 10:21 AM, in article iBaKc.77$,
"Kleee" wrote:
I would like to know there is such a plug-in for Photoshop and
Ianybody!
effect.might find it.
It would be trivial to create a similar one-click action for this
translation: for me anyway – ‘cus I’m brilliant – screw you!Automation is a beautiful thing.
translation: bullshit is a beautiful thing.
I am far too cheap and lazy to buy plugins when I can duplicate theeffects
for free …
translation: I am far too arrogant and lazy to actually help
posterThe Doormouse
The lazy part isn’t on the part of the The Doormouse. The original
searchwas asking for a plug-in to do something that is already within the capabilities of Photoshop. A little digging in the manual or short
on
the internet would have turned it up.tells
It’s like asking your car salesman to sell or give you something that
how fast you’re driving…
—
Jeff ‘The Wizard of Draws’ Bucchino
Cartoons with a Touch of Magic
That’s sort of the
purpose (or at least one of them) of this newsgroup!
It might even make you
(or Dormouse) feel all warm and useful!
The manual does NOT explain how to do this… have you
read it lately?
On 7/17/04 11:45 AM, in article PQbKc.97$,you
"Kleee" wrote:For your information: The manual does NOT explain how to do this… have
read it lately?
Kleee
Sure have: page 111-112. Granted, it takes a bit of extrapolation to apply it to the request, but for a Photoshop teacher, it shouldn’t be a stretch.
Most things in Photoshop can be easily accomplished if you simply areaware
of how to make a selection. From that point on, it’s usually only a matter of how you choose to manipulate the selection.
I work with a few people that depend on me for instructions on how to dothe
most simple Photoshop or Illustrator tasks (repeatedly), instead of bothering to read the manual or simply experiment. It quickly becomes tiresome, as does their work, because they won’t ever explore the possibilities of the programs or their own creativity.
—
Jeff ‘The Wizard of Draws’ Bucchino
Cartoons with a Touch of Magic
others have tasks to do and don’t want to spend ages
working out how to do them.
It’s not laziness.
I have visited
Excel/programming newsgroups a number of times to ask for help with Macros – I enjoy programming but sometimes just can’t work out the best way to do something – various people on these newsgroups are only too happy to offer advice…
so
much of my valuable time has been saved.
I have
never, ever been told to read the manual or look for a tutorial on Google.
If I don’t want to help somebody – I will not post a reply …
it’s really
pathetic to just snear at honest (maybe naive) requests for help…
mr predictable – it’s not in the manual shitbrain!
in article , Alison at
wrote on 07/16/2004 8:26 PM:
I would like to know if there is a plug-in to Photoshop for a blur that is effected by a gradient (or values of gray from another layer or image file) much like the gradient blur in After Effects?
-Alison
Read the f-ing manual.
Forgive me for asking Voivod – are you human?
No-one is asking you to!
Not all newsgroups are the same, not all people are the same. What some group of people wish to do does not have any relevance to what I wish to do.
Big shock for you here – this isn’t about you!
so
much of my valuable time has been saved.
Irrelevant.
To you – not me!
You just can’t comprehend this friendship thing can you?
Your choices are not relevant.
Of course they are…
sad people like yourself
this post – irrelevant!
in article w5iKc.806$, voidhead at
wrote on 07/17/2004 3:53 PM:
mr predictable – it’s not in the manual shitbrain!
I don’t give a shit.
The only way I can think to do this in PS 7 is with luminence masks and multiple layers.
in article YRgKc.750$have
wrote on 07/17/2004 2:28 PM:
others have tasks to do and don’t want to spend ages
working out how to do them.
That is their choice. I don’t have to support their choices. I don’t
to supplement their lack of work to find the answers.
It’s not laziness.
It may not be lazy. But I don’t have to support whatever it is.
Macros –I have visited
Excel/programming newsgroups a number of times to ask for help with
offerI enjoy programming but sometimes just can’t work out the best way to do something – various people on these newsgroups are only too happy to
do.advice…
Not all newsgroups are the same, not all people are the same. What some group of people wish to do does not have any relevance to what I wish to
so
much of my valuable time has been saved.
Irrelevant.
Google.I have
never, ever been told to read the manual or look for a tutorial on
Maybe it is about time.
If I don’t want to help somebody – I will not post a reply …
Your choices are not relevant.
it’s really
pathetic to just snear at honest (maybe naive) requests for help…
Your value judgements are also not relevant.
Forgive me for asking Voivod – are you human?
Artie
ps – what views do you hold on peer group support?
A
"Voivod" wrote in message
in article w5iKc.806$, voidhead at
wrote on 07/17/2004 3:53 PM:
mr predictable – it’s not in the manual shitbrain!
I don’t give a shit.
I’m just guessing here – but his answer just might be; "that’sirrelevant."
:o)
"Arte Phacting" wrote in message
Forgive me for asking Voivod – are you human?
Artie
ps – what views do you hold on peer group support?
A
"Voivod" wrote in message
in article w5iKc.806$, voidhead at
wrote on 07/17/2004 3:53 PM:
mr predictable – it’s not in the manual shitbrain!
I don’t give a shit.
in article nMiKc.122$, Arte Phacting at
wrote on 07/17/2004 4:38 PM:
Forgive me for asking Voivod – are you human?
Why, are you?
in article NWiKc.836$some
wrote on 07/17/2004 4:50 PM:No-one is asking you to!
Just reminding you that your choices are not universal.Not all newsgroups are the same, not all people are the same. What
togroup of people wish to do does not have any relevance to what I wish
writedo.
Big shock for you here – this isn’t about you!
When I write that it is about me, then it is.so
much of my valuable time has been saved.
Irrelevant.
To you – not me!
Of course, to me. That is the only person that I have the ability to
for.important
Unlike you, who thinks you write for some universal "everyone". Just try and keep this idea in mind… your ideas and your values are only
to you.You just can’t comprehend this friendship thing can you?
You poor thing. Looking for friends in newsgroups.Your choices are not relevant.
Of course they are…
Only to you.sad people like yourself
Your value judgements are not relevant.
in article ofjKc.847$
wrote on 07/17/2004 5:12 PM:
this post – irrelevant!
Then why did you post it?
Sure have: page 111-112. Granted, it takes a bit of extrapolation to apply it to the request, but for a Photoshop teacher, it shouldn’t be a stretch.
For you and other seasoned users! Maybe for me (a relative beginner). I have worked through many tutorials and gained from advice, hints, tips from other users hundreds of times – why have I bothered when everything I know (still relatively little) could be ‘extrapolated’ from the manual? What are friends, colleagues, user groups, teachers, newsgroups for? I still can’t answer Alisons question (I must admit, I don’t fully understand it!?).
Most things in Photoshop can be easily accomplished if you simply areaware
of how to make a selection. From that point on, it’s usually only a matter of how you choose to manipulate the selection.
I have found Photoshop to be anything but intuitive…
I work with a few people that depend on me for instructions on how to dothe
most simple Photoshop or Illustrator tasks (repeatedly), instead of bothering to read the manual or simply experiment. It quickly becomes tiresome, as does their work, because they won’t ever explore the possibilities of the programs or their own creativity.
—
It’s frustrating, but wheras you (I presume) and I are creative and will work to realise our visions – because we enjoy the act of ‘creation’ and get satisfaction from it – others have tasks to do and don’t want to spend ages working out how to do them. It’s not laziness. I have visited Excel/programming newsgroups a number of times to ask for help with Macros – I enjoy programming but sometimes just can’t work out the best way to do something – various people on these newsgroups are only too happy to offer advice, which they obviously enjoy giving and I appreciate recieving – so much of my valuable time has been saved. Everyone’s a winner! I have never, ever been told to read the manual or look for a tutorial on Google.
If I don’t want to help somebody – I will not post a reply – it’s really pathetic to just snear at honest (maybe naive) requests for help…
Kleee
You option number 2 is exactly what I want to be able to do! 🙂 -Alison
Look at Andromeda’s plug ins, especially varifocus.
http://www.andromeda.com/
I would like to know if there is a plug-in to Photoshop for a blur that is effected by a gradient (or values of gray from another layer or image file) much like the gradient blur in After Effects?
Cool is my middle name :o) – hence the considered and patient reply tothe
Wiazard.like
Kleee
"Arte Phacting" wrote in message
Forgive me Kleee – hang loose, be cool
The skills in being a trainer are very sophisticated. With something
toPSCS it is a very complicated marriage between aspiration (what I want
messagedo) with technology (what are the magic buttons?)
I am sure u know & appreciate this already
Artie
"Kleee" wrote in message
"Wizard of Draws" wrote in
iBaKc.77$,On 7/17/04 10:21 AM, in article
thewhere"Kleee" wrote:
I would like to know there is such a plug-in for Photoshop and
I
effect.might find it.
It would be trivial to create a similar one-click action for this
translation: for me anyway – ‘cus I’m brilliant – screw you!Automation is a beautiful thing.
translation: bullshit is a beautiful thing.
I am far too cheap and lazy to buy plugins when I can duplicate
thatanybody!effects
for free …
translation: I am far too arrogant and lazy to actually help
posterThe Doormouse
The lazy part isn’t on the part of the The Doormouse. The original
searchwas asking for a plug-in to do something that is already within the capabilities of Photoshop. A little digging in the manual or short
on
the internet would have turned it up.
It’s like asking your car salesman to sell or give you something
tells
how fast you’re driving…
—
Jeff ‘The Wizard of Draws’ Bucchino
Cartoons with a Touch of Magic
… The original poster
was asking for a plug-in to do something that is already within the capabilities of Photoshop.
that’s irrelevant!
"Voivod" wrote in message
in article ofjKc.847$
wrote on 07/17/2004 5:12 PM:
this post – irrelevant!
Then why did you post it?
Kleee, you’re having a dialog with the phony VOIDED.
He’s a voided wannabee.
"Kleee" wrote in message
Cool is my middle name :o) – hence the considered and patient reply tothe
Wiazard.like
Kleee
"Arte Phacting" wrote in message
Forgive me Kleee – hang loose, be cool
The skills in being a trainer are very sophisticated. With something
toPSCS it is a very complicated marriage between aspiration (what I want
messagedo) with technology (what are the magic buttons?)
I am sure u know & appreciate this already
Artie
"Kleee" wrote in message
"Wizard of Draws" wrote in
iBaKc.77$,On 7/17/04 10:21 AM, in article
thewhere"Kleee" wrote:
I would like to know there is such a plug-in for Photoshop and
I
effect.might find it.
It would be trivial to create a similar one-click action for this
translation: for me anyway – ‘cus I’m brilliant – screw you!Automation is a beautiful thing.
translation: bullshit is a beautiful thing.
I am far too cheap and lazy to buy plugins when I can duplicate
thatanybody!effects
for free …
translation: I am far too arrogant and lazy to actually help
posterThe Doormouse
The lazy part isn’t on the part of the The Doormouse. The original
searchwas asking for a plug-in to do something that is already within the capabilities of Photoshop. A little digging in the manual or short
on
the internet would have turned it up.
It’s like asking your car salesman to sell or give you something
atells
how fast you’re driving…
—
Jeff ‘The Wizard of Draws’ Bucchino
Cartoons with a Touch of Magic
www.wizardofdraws.com
www.cartoonclipart.com
And if I was that salesman I would sit the customer in the car and, in
variousfriendly manner, point to the speedometer – offering any furtherexplanation
the customer requires… I do similar every day while teaching
availableinformation!?software applications! Perhaps you think I should just sneer and tellsaid
customer to read the bloody manual or consult Google for the
If you or Doormouse know that the requested feature is easily
inof
Photoshop wouldn’t it be nice to point it out to Alison? That’s sort
makethe
purpose (or at least one of them) of this newsgroup! It might even
askingyou
(or Dormouse) feel all warm and useful! :o)
But remember, Alison already knows how to do this, she is simply
haveforpossibly
a ‘plug in’, or maybe some assistance in simplifying this task –
issome help in creating this "one-click action" that Doormouse tells her
so
trivial (but can’t be bothered to explain).
For your information: The manual does NOT explain how to do this…
you
read it lately?
Kleee
I am still using Photoship 7 as I have not yet been able to upgrade to CS.
The Doormouse wrote:
Alison wrote:I would like to know if there is a plug-in to Photoshop for a blur that is effected by a gradient (or values of gray from another layer or image file) much like the gradient blur in After Effects?
You just need to discover layers and masking, plus the wonder of internet tutorials.
The Doormouse
Thank you, but I have worked as a graphic artist for 6 years and I have taught Photoshop technique. I am simply looking for an easier way of effecting a blur with a gradient. It is just two clicks to do what I want in After Effects, and I would like to be able to do the same thing in Photoshop as well.
The way it works is this: the brighter the gradient gets the higher the blur radius; the only control to set is just how high the blur radius is at pure white.
I would like to know there is such a plug-in for Photoshop and where I might find it.
Thank you,
-Alison
Just be aware that Toosano is a phony also.
in article , toosano at
wrote on 07/17/2004 8:04 PM:
Kleee, you’re having a dialog with the phony VOIDED.
He’s a voided wannabee.
"Kleee" wrote in message
Cool is my middle name :o) – hence the considered and patient reply tothe
Wiazard.like
Kleee
"Arte Phacting" wrote in message
Forgive me Kleee – hang loose, be cool
The skills in being a trainer are very sophisticated. With something
toPSCS it is a very complicated marriage between aspiration (what I want
messagedo) with technology (what are the magic buttons?)
I am sure u know & appreciate this already
Artie
"Kleee" wrote in message
"Wizard of Draws" wrote in
iBaKc.77$,On 7/17/04 10:21 AM, in article
thewhere"Kleee" wrote:
I would like to know there is such a plug-in for Photoshop and
I
effect.might find it.
It would be trivial to create a similar one-click action for this
translation: for me anyway – ‘cus I’m brilliant – screw you!Automation is a beautiful thing.
translation: bullshit is a beautiful thing.
I am far too cheap and lazy to buy plugins when I can duplicate
thatanybody!effects
for free …
translation: I am far too arrogant and lazy to actually help
posterThe Doormouse
The lazy part isn’t on the part of the The Doormouse. The original
searchwas asking for a plug-in to do something that is already within the capabilities of Photoshop. A little digging in the manual or short
on
the internet would have turned it up.
It’s like asking your car salesman to sell or give you something
tells
how fast you’re driving…
—
Jeff ‘The Wizard of Draws’ Bucchino
Cartoons with a Touch of Magic
Not to you.
in article wHjKc.636$
wrote on 07/17/2004 5:42 PM:
that’s irrelevant!
"Voivod" wrote in message
in article ofjKc.847$, kleee at
wrote on 07/17/2004 5:12 PM:
this post – irrelevant!
Then why did you post it?
On 7/17/04 5:28 PM, in article YRgKc.750$,apply
"Kleee" wrote:
Sure have: page 111-112. Granted, it takes a bit of extrapolation to
stretch.it to the request, but for a Photoshop teacher, it shouldn’t be a
IFor you and other seasoned users! Maybe for me (a relative beginner).
fromhave worked through many tutorials and gained from advice, hints, tips
knowother users hundreds of times – why have I bothered when everything I
are(still relatively little) could be ‘extrapolated’ from the manual? What
can’tfriends, colleagues, user groups, teachers, newsgroups for? I still
matteranswer Alisons question (I must admit, I don’t fully understand it!?).
Alison indicated that she instructed Photoshop to others. That seems to indicate that she is a ‘seasoned user’.
Most things in Photoshop can be easily accomplished if you simply areaware
of how to make a selection. From that point on, it’s usually only a
doof how you choose to manipulate the selection.
I have found Photoshop to be anything but intuitive…
Agree 100%. However, it becomes much easier and less daunting after a few years of use and playing with the program.
I work with a few people that depend on me for instructions on how to
getthe
most simple Photoshop or Illustrator tasks (repeatedly), instead of bothering to read the manual or simply experiment. It quickly becomes tiresome, as does their work, because they won’t ever explore the possibilities of the programs or their own creativity.
—
It’s frustrating, but wheras you (I presume) and I are creative and will work to realise our visions – because we enjoy the act of ‘creation’ and
agessatisfaction from it – others have tasks to do and don’t want to spend
Macros –working out how to do them. It’s not laziness. I have visited Excel/programming newsgroups a number of times to ask for help with
offerI enjoy programming but sometimes just can’t work out the best way to do something – various people on these newsgroups are only too happy to
soadvice, which they obviously enjoy giving and I appreciate recieving –
Google.much of my valuable time has been saved. Everyone’s a winner! I have never, ever been told to read the manual or look for a tutorial on
originalIf I don’t want to help somebody – I will not post a reply – it’s really pathetic to just snear at honest (maybe naive) requests for help…
Kleee
If an ‘artist’ doesn’t want to spend a lot of time working out how to use Photoshop by trail and error, reading and research, but instead rely on newsgroups for quick answers to their immediate project dilemma, then perhaps they should reconsider their career choice. As I said, the
poster professed to have more than a basic knowledge of Photoshop.from
Probably 1/3 of my Photoshop knowledge has come from web tutorials, 1/3
books (including the manual), and 1/3 from other artists I’ve worked with.A
newsgroup just doesn’t come close to substituting for any of these if you need more than a tip or nudge in the right direction. Newsgroups may be perfect for trading Excel macros and I know the aviation newsgroups helped me tremendously while I was learning to fly, but with regard to Photoshop, I’ve found them best for pointing to tutorials on the web.
—
Jeff ‘The Wizard of Draws’ Bucchino
Cartoons with a Touch of Magic
Wizard of Draws wrote in messagenews:<BD1EAE67.1776D%>…
… The original poster
was asking for a plug-in to do something that is already within the capabilities of Photoshop.
Incorrect.
–T
Okay, so apparently I get labled as an "idiot" for asking this question about a gradient blur. Maybe I am an idiot for not mentioning this before but I am still using Photoship 7 as I have not yet been able to upgrade to CS. It has been increasingly apparent to me that the new CS versions of both Photoshop and Illustrator solve a lot of the problems that I have been encountering lately.
So now I would like to ask question for all the CS users out there: Does the brush tool in CS allow for a multicolored stroke? And I am not talking about the color jitter of Photoshop 7 but something more on the order of Painter’s brush stroke (where in a single "tap" of the brush there are two or more colors that will then streak along together with the stroke). I have read about many of the new features in Photoshop CS but I have seen no mention whether they improved the brushes from 7.
-Alison
"Wizard of Draws" wrote in message
On 7/17/04 5:28 PM, in article YRgKc.750$,apply
"Kleee" wrote:
Sure have: page 111-112. Granted, it takes a bit of extrapolation to
stretch.it to the request, but for a Photoshop teacher, it shouldn’t be a
IFor you and other seasoned users! Maybe for me (a relative beginner).
fromhave worked through many tutorials and gained from advice, hints, tips
knowother users hundreds of times – why have I bothered when everything I
are(still relatively little) could be ‘extrapolated’ from the manual? What
can’tfriends, colleagues, user groups, teachers, newsgroups for? I still
matteranswer Alisons question (I must admit, I don’t fully understand it!?).
Alison indicated that she instructed Photoshop to others. That seems to indicate that she is a ‘seasoned user’.
Most things in Photoshop can be easily accomplished if you simply areaware
of how to make a selection. From that point on, it’s usually only a
doof how you choose to manipulate the selection.
I have found Photoshop to be anything but intuitive…
Agree 100%. However, it becomes much easier and less daunting after a few years of use and playing with the program.
I work with a few people that depend on me for instructions on how to
getthe
most simple Photoshop or Illustrator tasks (repeatedly), instead of bothering to read the manual or simply experiment. It quickly becomes tiresome, as does their work, because they won’t ever explore the possibilities of the programs or their own creativity.
—
It’s frustrating, but wheras you (I presume) and I are creative and will work to realise our visions – because we enjoy the act of ‘creation’ and
agessatisfaction from it – others have tasks to do and don’t want to spend
Macros –working out how to do them. It’s not laziness. I have visited Excel/programming newsgroups a number of times to ask for help with
offerI enjoy programming but sometimes just can’t work out the best way to do something – various people on these newsgroups are only too happy to
soadvice, which they obviously enjoy giving and I appreciate recieving –
Google.much of my valuable time has been saved. Everyone’s a winner! I have never, ever been told to read the manual or look for a tutorial on
originalIf I don’t want to help somebody – I will not post a reply – it’s really pathetic to just snear at honest (maybe naive) requests for help…
Kleee
If an ‘artist’ doesn’t want to spend a lot of time working out how to use Photoshop by trail and error, reading and research, but instead rely on newsgroups for quick answers to their immediate project dilemma, then perhaps they should reconsider their career choice. As I said, the
poster professed to have more than a basic knowledge of Photoshop.from
Probably 1/3 of my Photoshop knowledge has come from web tutorials, 1/3
books (including the manual), and 1/3 from other artists I’ve worked with.A
newsgroup just doesn’t come close to substituting for any of these if you need more than a tip or nudge in the right direction. Newsgroups may be perfect for trading Excel macros and I know the aviation newsgroups helped me tremendously while I was learning to fly, but with regard to Photoshop, I’ve found them best for pointing to tutorials on the web.
If I have a deadline to produce something – I don’t want ‘working out how to do a mechanical task’ to detract from my creative time! It’s that simple! And I’m grateful to the people on various newsgroups (including the ‘other’ PS one!) for their help.
We’ll have to agree to differ…
—
Jeff ‘The Wizard of Draws’ Bucchino
Cartoons with a Touch of Magic
www.wizardofdraws.com
www.cartoonclipart.com
"Wizard of Draws" wrote in message
news:BD1F431E.17976% On 7/17/04 5:28 PM,
in article YRgKc.750$, "Kleee"
wrote:
If I have a deadline to produce something – I don’t want ‘working out how to do a mechanical task’ to detract from my creative time! It’s that simple! And I’m grateful to the people on various newsgroups (including the ‘other’ PS one!) for their help.Sure have: page 111-112. Granted, it takes a bit of extrapolation to apply it to the request, but for a Photoshop teacher, it shouldn’t be a stretch.For you and other seasoned users! Maybe for me (a relative beginner). I have worked through many tutorials and gained from advice, hints, tips from other users hundreds of times – why have I bothered when everything I know (still relatively little) could be ‘extrapolated’ from the manual? What are friends, colleagues, user groups, teachers, newsgroups for? I still can’t answer Alisons question (I must admit, I don’t fully understand it!?).
Alison indicated that she instructed Photoshop to others. That seems to indicate that she is a ‘seasoned user’.
Most things in Photoshop can be easily accomplished if you simply are aware of how to make a selection. From that point on, it’s usually only a matter of how you choose to manipulate the selection.I have found Photoshop to be anything but intuitive…
Agree 100%. However, it becomes much easier and less daunting after a few years of use and playing with the program.
I work with a few people that depend on me for instructions on how to do the most simple Photoshop or Illustrator tasks (repeatedly), instead of bothering to read the manual or simply experiment. It quickly becomes tiresome, as does their work, because they won’t ever explore the possibilities of the programs or their own creativity. —It’s frustrating, but wheras you (I presume) and I are creative and will work to realise our visions – because we enjoy the act of ‘creation’ and get satisfaction from it – others have tasks to do and don’t want to spend ages working out how to do them. It’s not laziness. I have visited Excel/programming newsgroups a number of times to ask for help with Macros – I enjoy programming but sometimes just can’t work out the best way to do something – various people on these newsgroups are only too happy to offer advice, which they obviously enjoy giving and I appreciate recieving – so much of my valuable time has been saved. Everyone’s a winner! I have never, ever been told to read the manual or look for a tutorial on Google.
If I don’t want to help somebody – I will not post a reply – it’s really pathetic to just snear at honest (maybe naive) requests for help…
Kleee
If an ‘artist’ doesn’t want to spend a lot of time working out how to use Photoshop by trail and error, reading and research, but instead rely on newsgroups for quick answers to their immediate project dilemma, then perhaps they should reconsider their career choice. As I said, the original poster professed to have more than a basic knowledge of Photoshop.
Probably 1/3 of my Photoshop knowledge has come from web tutorials, 1/3 from books (including the manual), and 1/3 from other artists I’ve worked with. A newsgroup just doesn’t come close to substituting for any of these if you need more than a tip or nudge in the right direction. Newsgroups may be perfect for trading Excel macros and I know the aviation newsgroups helped me tremendously while I was learning to fly, but with regard to Photoshop, I’ve found them best for pointing to tutorials on the web.
We’ll have to agree to differ…
— Jeff ‘The Wizard of Draws’ Bucchino Cartoons with a Touch of Magic www.wizardofdraws.com www.cartoonclipart.com
I don’t
know!
Alison
You’re more likely to get sneers than helpful replies in here! Try: ‘comp.graphics.apps.photoshop’ – I haven’t come across any sad trolls in there…
That’s your (irrelevant) opinion…
"Voivoid" wrote in message
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wrote on 07/18/2004 5:43 AM:
I don’t
know!
That is your perpetual condition.
Ha ha ha – like you just did – hypocrite…
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"Wizard of Draws" wrote in message
On 7/17/04 5:28 PM, in article YRgKc.750$,apply
"Kleee" wrote:
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wrote on 07/18/2004 5:43 AM:
I don’t
know!
That is your perpetual condition.
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wrote on 07/18/2004 5:48 AM:
Alison
You’re more likely to get sneers than helpful replies in here! Try: ‘comp.graphics.apps.photoshop’ – I haven’t come across any sad trolls in there…
You’re a newbie, so your opinions don’t count.
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you have any other state of mind.
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wrote on 07/18/2004 8:29 AM:
That’s your (irrelevant) opinion…
"Voivoid" wrote in message
in article fguKc.115$, kleee at
wrote on 07/18/2004 5:43 AM:
I don’t
know!
That is your perpetual condition.
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wrote on 07/18/2004 8:28 AM:
Ha ha ha – like you just did – hypocrite…
That is because your newsreader tore up the text. The text was
correctly, but your newsreader tore it up.
hahahahaha.
This ‘newbie’ tag is so juvenile and pretentious…
I have been using various
newsgroups for many years…
Is there anything sadder than a Voivod wanabe – I think not…
How about the guy that worries about it?—
hahahaha.
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wrote on 07/18/2004 8:55 AM:
Is there anything sadder than a Voivod wanabe – I think not…
How about the guy that worries about it?
hahahaha.
in article %3xKc.167$
wrote on 07/18/2004 8:55 AM:
Is there anything sadder than a Voivod wanabe – I think not…
in article 2KwKc.162$
wrote on 07/18/2004 8:32 AM:This ‘newbie’ tag is so juvenile and pretentious…
Hooked you right in the eye though…
throw you back, newbie.
I have been using various
newsgroups for many years…
Sure takes you a long time to learn how newsgroups work.
Wizard of Draws wrote in message
news:<BD1EAE67.1776D%>…
… The original poster
was asking for a plug-in to do something that is already within the capabilities of Photoshop.
Incorrect.
–T
Alison
You’re more likely to get sneers than helpful replies in here! Try: ‘comp.graphics.apps.photoshop’ – I haven’t come across any sad trolls in there…
Kleee
kleee wrote:
Alison
You’re more likely to get sneers than helpful replies in here! Try: ‘comp.graphics.apps.photoshop’ – I haven’t come across any sad trolls in there…
Kleee
Honestly, I am surprised by the response here, I rarely look at either of the Photoshop newsgroups because they get so many posts, and I am more accustomed to the helpful advice I get from other less trafficked newsgroups.
-Alison
kleee wrote:
Alison
You’re more likely to get sneers than helpful replies in here! Try: ‘comp.graphics.apps.photoshop’ – I haven’t come across any sad trolls in there…
Kleee
Honestly, I am surprised by the response here, I rarely look at either of the Photoshop newsgroups because they get so many posts, and I am more accustomed to the helpful advice I get from other less trafficked newsgroups.
-Alison
Well – it depends who you believe in here – the so called experts say it can be done ("trivial task") – perhaps you should argue with them – I don’t know!
Kleee
"Toby Thain" wrote in message
Wizard of Draws wrote in messagenews:<BD1EAE67.1776D%>…
… The original poster
was asking for a plug-in to do something that is already within the capabilities of Photoshop.
Incorrect.
–T
Poor boy – I’m laughing at you not worrying!
Ha Ha Ha Hee Hee Hee
Kleee
"Voivoid" wrote in message
How about the guy that worries about it?
hahahaha.
in article %3xKc.167$
wrote on 07/18/2004 8:55 AM:
Is there anything sadder than a Voivod wanabe – I think not…
"Voivoid" wrote in message
in article 2KwKc.162$
wrote on 07/18/2004 8:32 AM:This ‘newbie’ tag is so juvenile and pretentious…
Hooked you right in the eye though…
Huh?
Judicious use of kill filters ensures that you (mostly) avoid the unhelpful.
I would like to know if there is a plug-in to Photoshop for a blur that is effected by a gradient (or values of gray from another layer or image file) much like the gradient blur in After Effects?
-Alison
On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 15:45:51 GMT, "Kleee" wrote:you
For your information: The manual does NOT explain how to do this… have
read it lately?
And even it if did…some of us have lots of trouble with manuals. Generally, they are written for the person who doesn’t really need a manual. They aren’t written for the person who really doesn’t know how to do something. They aren’t written for those of us who have trouble understanding what they just read either. I’ve had that problem all my life. The manual is nothing but words, and that’s the way it comes across most of the time. When finally shown step by step how to do something, the manual usually comes around to making sense, but sometimes not. Call it what you want, poor reading skills, poor comprehension, whatever. The point it, reading the manual rarely works for some of us. Specific, step by step instruction usually does.
g1
"Wizard of Draws" wrote in message
On 7/17/04 11:45 AM, in article PQbKc.97$,you
"Kleee" wrote:For your information: The manual does NOT explain how to do this… have
read it lately?
Kleee
Sure have: page 111-112. Granted, it takes a bit of extrapolation to apply it to the request, but for a Photoshop teacher, it shouldn’t be a stretch.
For you and other seasoned users! Maybe for me (a relative beginner). I have worked through many tutorials and gained from advice, hints, tips from other users hundreds of times – why have I bothered when everything I know (still relatively little) could be ‘extrapolated’ from the manual? What are friends, colleagues, user groups, teachers, newsgroups for? I still can’t answer Alisons question (I must admit, I don’t fully understand it!?).
Most things in Photoshop can be easily accomplished if you simply areaware
of how to make a selection. From that point on, it’s usually only a matter of how you choose to manipulate the selection.
I have found Photoshop to be anything but intuitive…
I work with a few people that depend on me for instructions on how to dothe
most simple Photoshop or Illustrator tasks (repeatedly), instead of bothering to read the manual or simply experiment. It quickly becomes tiresome, as does their work, because they won’t ever explore the possibilities of the programs or their own creativity.
—
It’s frustrating, but wheras you (I presume) and I are creative and will work to realise our visions – because we enjoy the act of ‘creation’ and get satisfaction from it – others have tasks to do and don’t want to spend ages working out how to do them. It’s not laziness. I have visited Excel/programming newsgroups a number of times to ask for help with Macros – I enjoy programming but sometimes just can’t work out the best way to do something – various people on these newsgroups are only too happy to offer advice, which they obviously enjoy giving and I appreciate recieving – so much of my valuable time has been saved. Everyone’s a winner! I have never, ever been told to read the manual or look for a tutorial on Google.
If I don’t want to help somebody – I will not post a reply – it’s really pathetic to just snear at honest (maybe naive) requests for help…
Kleee
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wrote on 07/18/2004 5:45 PM:Judicious use of kill filters ensures that you (mostly) avoid the unhelpful.
Make sure you only filter the fakes…
It’s easy to spot fake posts from AssholeMike.
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