shadows and perspecive help

looks pretty good to me – all depends what you wanna achieve I guess. I mean, no one really thinks it IS a wagon wheel, just a representation of one….

the shadow of a wheel wouldn’t look like that but more like a very flat egg wouldn’t it? but if it were against a wall I guess there would be slight perspective and a more ovoid shape. then the shadow would creep along the ground and up the wall …. go outside and look at some shadows….. the issue may be that your wheel doesn’t really have any context – there is no wall or ground.

email me if you want anything else from this tired mind

🙂

Steve

"-D-" wrote in message

Can anyone offer any suggestions on how to improve this attempt I made at

a

wagon wheel. Anything to make the wheel look more realistic would be helpful. How can I get the wheel to look like it is tilting or leaning against a wall. Perhaps with some perspective? I was messing around with

the

transform > perspective, but it didn’t look right? I was also thinking

about

creating a shadow as it would appear on the ground. Any help is

appreciated.

Here is the link to the image:

http://www.mattminorandshotglass.com/test.htm

Lastly, if anyone can offer any suggestions on how to create a cowboy hat

or

a tutorial that shows how to create a cowboy hat, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance for any help.

-D-

Hi Steve,
Thanks for replying to my post. I appreciate the help. Do you have any suggestions on how I can achieve a good perspective look that would indicate that the wheel is leaning against a wall. Everything I’ve tried just hasn’t looked right. Also, the suggestions regarding shadows sound just like what I need to change. Know of any good tutorials on how to create shadows like that? Again, thank you for your input and help.
-D-

c"imaginuity" wrote in message

looks pretty good to me – all depends what you wanna achieve I guess. I mean, no one really thinks it IS a wagon wheel, just a representation of one….

the shadow of a wheel wouldn’t look like that but more like a very flat

egg

wouldn’t it? but if it were against a wall I guess there would be slight perspective and a more ovoid shape. then the shadow would creep along the ground and up the wall …. go outside and look at some shadows….. the issue may be that your wheel doesn’t really have any context – there is no wall or ground.

email me if you want anything else from this tired mind

🙂

Steve

"-D-" wrote in message

Can anyone offer any suggestions on how to improve this attempt I made

at

a

wagon wheel. Anything to make the wheel look more realistic would be helpful. How can I get the wheel to look like it is tilting or leaning against a wall. Perhaps with some perspective? I was messing around with

the

transform > perspective, but it didn’t look right? I was also thinking

about

creating a shadow as it would appear on the ground. Any help is

appreciated.

Here is the link to the image:

http://www.mattminorandshotglass.com/test.htm

Lastly, if anyone can offer any suggestions on how to create a cowboy

hat

or

a tutorial that shows how to create a cowboy hat, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance for any help.

-D-

Hello,
My only suggestion would be to rotate the wagon wheel slightly in either direction – to avoid the ‘clock’ feel – only my personal opinion. As already stated – looks pretty good.
Cannot help with the cowboy hat tutorial – perhaps a search under google etc for cowboy hat or wagon wheel – may give you the link to some images for inspiration – and perspective/shadow lines etc.
Regards,
Davin
www.davin-photography.com

"-D-" wrote in message

Can anyone offer any suggestions on how to improve this attempt I made at

a

wagon wheel. Anything to make the wheel look more realistic would be helpful. How can I get the wheel to look like it is tilting or leaning against a wall. Perhaps with some perspective? I was messing around with

the

transform > perspective, but it didn’t look right? I was also thinking

about

creating a shadow as it would appear on the ground. Any help is

appreciated.

Here is the link to the image:

http://www.mattminorandshotglass.com/test.htm

Lastly, if anyone can offer any suggestions on how to create a cowboy hat

or

a tutorial that shows how to create a cowboy hat, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance for any help.

-D-

Hi D

I had a little time to show you my suggestion. Sorry enough I don’t have much time now to explain, but ask and i’ll answer later.

For now:

Steps (animated Gif):
http://www.nydesign.dk/littleboy/wheelShadow.gif

Finished image:
http://www.nydesign.dk/littleboy/wheelShadow_fin.gif

Psd file:
http://www.nydesign.dk/littleboy/wheelShadow_fin.psd

Use your Quickmask and gradient tools and some Gaussian blur here and there.

In any case, when you want to achieve something, just try to imagine it and try to figure out what the basic needs are for simulating that effect.

In this case, if you place a wheel like this against a wall, you will produce a shadow that is cranked in two. I made it soft-looking (to hide some sloppy work) but if it’s a bright sun you need to make sure the the two shadow pieces are very bluntly cranked in two, with sharp shadow edges.

Hm.. hope my poor english makes some sense here.

Greets and good luck

Littleboy

"-D-" wrote in message

Can anyone offer any suggestions on how to improve this attempt I made at

a

wagon wheel. Anything to make the wheel look more realistic would be helpful. How can I get the wheel to look like it is tilting or leaning against a wall. Perhaps with some perspective? I was messing around with

the

transform > perspective, but it didn’t look right? I was also thinking

about

creating a shadow as it would appear on the ground. Any help is

appreciated.

Here is the link to the image:

http://www.mattminorandshotglass.com/test.htm

Lastly, if anyone can offer any suggestions on how to create a cowboy hat

or

a tutorial that shows how to create a cowboy hat, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance for any help.

-D-

Hi Littleboy,
Thanks a bunch for the help. The files were very helpful. The shadows look really good. If I can ask, how did you do the small shadows right around the spokes and and arond the inner area of the wheel? Look like you maybe used the blur tool?? It is a really nice touch. Just curious how you did that. Again, thank you for your help. I really appreciate it!:)

-D-

"Littleboy" <littleboy_at_emp3mail.com> wrote in message

Hi D

I had a little time to show you my suggestion. Sorry enough I don’t have much time now to explain, but ask and i’ll answer later.
For now:

Steps (animated Gif):
http://www.nydesign.dk/littleboy/wheelShadow.gif

Finished image:
http://www.nydesign.dk/littleboy/wheelShadow_fin.gif

Psd file:
http://www.nydesign.dk/littleboy/wheelShadow_fin.psd

Use your Quickmask and gradient tools and some Gaussian blur here and

there.

In any case, when you want to achieve something, just try to imagine it

and

try to figure out what the basic needs are for simulating that effect.
In this case, if you place a wheel like this against a wall, you will produce a shadow that is cranked in two. I made it soft-looking (to hide some sloppy work) but if it’s a bright sun you need to make sure the the

two

shadow pieces are very bluntly cranked in two, with sharp shadow edges.
Hm.. hope my poor english makes some sense here.

Greets and good luck

Littleboy

"-D-" wrote in message

Can anyone offer any suggestions on how to improve this attempt I made

at

a

wagon wheel. Anything to make the wheel look more realistic would be helpful. How can I get the wheel to look like it is tilting or leaning against a wall. Perhaps with some perspective? I was messing around with

the

transform > perspective, but it didn’t look right? I was also thinking

about

creating a shadow as it would appear on the ground. Any help is

appreciated.

Here is the link to the image:

http://www.mattminorandshotglass.com/test.htm

Lastly, if anyone can offer any suggestions on how to create a cowboy

hat

or

a tutorial that shows how to create a cowboy hat, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance for any help.

-D-

littleboy has a big brain

🙂

well done LB!

Steve

"Littleboy" <littleboy_at_emp3mail.com> wrote in message

Hi D

I had a little time to show you my suggestion. Sorry enough I don’t have much time now to explain, but ask and i’ll answer later.
For now:

Steps (animated Gif):
http://www.nydesign.dk/littleboy/wheelShadow.gif

Finished image:
http://www.nydesign.dk/littleboy/wheelShadow_fin.gif

Psd file:
http://www.nydesign.dk/littleboy/wheelShadow_fin.psd

Use your Quickmask and gradient tools and some Gaussian blur here and

there.

In any case, when you want to achieve something, just try to imagine it

and

try to figure out what the basic needs are for simulating that effect.
In this case, if you place a wheel like this against a wall, you will produce a shadow that is cranked in two. I made it soft-looking (to hide some sloppy work) but if it’s a bright sun you need to make sure the the

two

shadow pieces are very bluntly cranked in two, with sharp shadow edges.
Hm.. hope my poor english makes some sense here.

Greets and good luck

Littleboy

"-D-" wrote in message

Can anyone offer any suggestions on how to improve this attempt I made

at

a

wagon wheel. Anything to make the wheel look more realistic would be helpful. How can I get the wheel to look like it is tilting or leaning against a wall. Perhaps with some perspective? I was messing around with

the

transform > perspective, but it didn’t look right? I was also thinking

about

creating a shadow as it would appear on the ground. Any help is

appreciated.

Here is the link to the image:

http://www.mattminorandshotglass.com/test.htm

Lastly, if anyone can offer any suggestions on how to create a cowboy

hat

or

a tutorial that shows how to create a cowboy hat, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance for any help.

-D-

looks like littleboy has addressed it and did a bloody fine job showing you! 🙂

BOTTOM SHADOW – copy the existing image onto a new layer – darken it right down to black – blur it – increase transparency – fiddle with transform to get it looking right – cut out the redundant section and repeat for the shadow on the wall

keep going until your hair is silky smooth and squeaky clean

🙂

Davin’s idea is terrific too – simple and effective

S
"-D-" wrote in message

Hi Steve,
Thanks for replying to my post. I appreciate the help. Do you have

any

suggestions on how I can achieve a good perspective look that would

indicate

that the wheel is leaning against a wall. Everything I’ve tried just

hasn’t

looked right. Also, the suggestions regarding shadows sound just like

what

I need to change. Know of any good tutorials on how to create shadows

like

that? Again, thank you for your input and help.
-D-

c"imaginuity" wrote in message

looks pretty good to me – all depends what you wanna achieve I guess. I mean, no one really thinks it IS a wagon wheel, just a representation of one….

the shadow of a wheel wouldn’t look like that but more like a very flat

egg

wouldn’t it? but if it were against a wall I guess there would be slight perspective and a more ovoid shape. then the shadow would creep along

the

ground and up the wall …. go outside and look at some shadows….. the issue may be that your wheel doesn’t really have any context – there is

no

wall or ground.

email me if you want anything else from this tired mind

🙂

Steve

"-D-" wrote in message

Can anyone offer any suggestions on how to improve this attempt I made

at

a

wagon wheel. Anything to make the wheel look more realistic would be helpful. How can I get the wheel to look like it is tilting or leaning against a wall. Perhaps with some perspective? I was messing around

with

the

transform > perspective, but it didn’t look right? I was also thinking

about

creating a shadow as it would appear on the ground. Any help is

appreciated.

Here is the link to the image:

http://www.mattminorandshotglass.com/test.htm

Lastly, if anyone can offer any suggestions on how to create a cowboy

hat

or

a tutorial that shows how to create a cowboy hat, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance for any help.

-D-

Thanks for all the praise guys. I’m glad it was helpful and appreciated.

"If I can ask, how did you do the small shadows right around the spokes and and arond the inner area of the wheel?"

I don’t know 😉 I’m also not exactly sure what you mean, but I didn’t do anything special to the wheel’s own shadow. It was probably accidental luck 🙂

However, one thing you might wanna add to "layer 1" from the psd is a slight pillow emboss to simulate some depth in the wheel. Changing the setting and color of highlight and shadow will get you a lot of different results, some perhaps even better.

It’s clever you can colorize the highlight. This is useful if the wheel is standing against a red brick wall, then you can give the highlight a slight reddish tint. That will simulate some reflection and some radiosity.

http://www.nydesign.dk/littleboy/wheelDepth.jpg

Regards

Littleboy

"Littleboy" <littleboy_at_emp3mail.com> wrote in message

Hi D

I had a little time to show you my suggestion. Sorry enough I don’t have much time now to explain, but ask and i’ll answer later.
For now:

Steps (animated Gif):
http://www.nydesign.dk/littleboy/wheelShadow.gif

Finished image:
http://www.nydesign.dk/littleboy/wheelShadow_fin.gif

Psd file:
http://www.nydesign.dk/littleboy/wheelShadow_fin.psd

Use your Quickmask and gradient tools and some Gaussian blur here and

there.

In any case, when you want to achieve something, just try to imagine it

and

try to figure out what the basic needs are for simulating that effect.
In this case, if you place a wheel like this against a wall, you will produce a shadow that is cranked in two. I made it soft-looking (to hide some sloppy work) but if it’s a bright sun you need to make sure the the

two

shadow pieces are very bluntly cranked in two, with sharp shadow edges.
Hm.. hope my poor english makes some sense here.

Greets and good luck

Littleboy

"-D-" wrote in message

Can anyone offer any suggestions on how to improve this attempt I made

at

a

wagon wheel. Anything to make the wheel look more realistic would be helpful. How can I get the wheel to look like it is tilting or leaning against a wall. Perhaps with some perspective? I was messing around with

the

transform > perspective, but it didn’t look right? I was also thinking

about

creating a shadow as it would appear on the ground. Any help is

appreciated.

Here is the link to the image:

http://www.mattminorandshotglass.com/test.htm

Lastly, if anyone can offer any suggestions on how to create a cowboy

hat

or

a tutorial that shows how to create a cowboy hat, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance for any help.

-D-