PhotoShop 7 up and running in Linux

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I finally got photoshop up and running today in my Linux computer..

I was beginning to miss it..

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Glenn Pechacek
Nov 24, 2003
You should support the GIMP and not use PhotoShop.

Glenn

"Colyn" wrote in message
I finally got photoshop up and running today in my Linux computer..
I was beginning to miss it..

************************************************************ *** ************************************************************ *** Colyn Goodson
Fort Worth, Texas

http://home.swbell.net/colyng

http://www.colyngoodson.com
http://www.colyngoodson.com/sale.html
http://www.colyngoodson.com/manuals.html
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Eric Gill
Nov 24, 2003
"Glenn Pechacek" wrote in
news::

You should support the GIMP and not use PhotoShop.

….and use a Radio Flyer wagon instead of a Peterbuilt to haul freight professionally.

After all, it costs much less.
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edjh
Nov 25, 2003
Colyn wrote:

I finally got photoshop up and running today in my Linux computer..
I was beginning to miss it..

************************************************************ *** ************************************************************ *** Colyn Goodson
Fort Worth, Texas

http://home.swbell.net/colyng

http://www.colyngoodson.com
http://www.colyngoodson.com/sale.html
http://www.colyngoodson.com/manuals.html

What are you using to run it? How’s the performance?


Comic book sketches and artwork:
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Colyn
Nov 25, 2003
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 01:08:54 GMT, edjh wrote:

What are you using to run it? How’s the performance?
I’m running it through a program called wine.

It allows you to run windows compatable software on Linux.

Performance is as good as when I ran it on Win 2k except startup takes maybe a couple of seconds longer.. Other than that, I don’t notice any difference.

I’m alo running ACDSee and Forte Agent (posting this with it)..

I’m also going to install Guild which is my favorite ftp server..

************************************************************ *** ************************************************************ *** Colyn Goodson
Fort Worth, Texas

http://home.swbell.net/colyng

http://www.colyngoodson.com
http://www.colyngoodson.com/sale.html
http://www.colyngoodson.com/manuals.html
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Colyn
Nov 25, 2003
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 18:11:15 -0500, "Glenn Pechacek" wrote:

You should support the GIMP and not use PhotoShop.
Gimp’s ok but PhotoShop is far better..

************************************************************ *** ************************************************************ *** Colyn Goodson
Fort Worth, Texas

http://home.swbell.net/colyng

http://www.colyngoodson.com
http://www.colyngoodson.com/sale.html
http://www.colyngoodson.com/manuals.html
PJ
Paul J Gans
Nov 25, 2003
Colyn wrote:

I finally got photoshop up and running today in my Linux computer..

I was beginning to miss it..

Could you give a few hints on how you did it? And what version of photoshop you have running?

—- Paul J. Gans
PJ
Paul J Gans
Nov 25, 2003
Eric Gill wrote:
"Glenn Pechacek" wrote in
news::

You should support the GIMP and not use PhotoShop.

…and use a Radio Flyer wagon instead of a Peterbuilt to haul freight professionally.

After all, it costs much less.

Be reasonable. Since many folks do not use the full power of Photoshop, the GIMP is perfectly adequate. It isn’t a bad program at all. That it is not quite Photoshop is
not a sin. Lots of programs aren’t quite Photoshop.

—- Paul J. Gans
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Colyn
Nov 25, 2003
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 02:52:49 +0000 (UTC), Paul J Gans
wrote:

Colyn wrote:

I finally got photoshop up and running today in my Linux computer..

I was beginning to miss it..

Could you give a few hints on how you did it? And what version of photoshop you have running?
I’m running it through wine http://www.winehq.com/ a crossover program which allows you to run windows based programs.

I’m using PhotoShop 7 as well as ACDSee and Forte Agent.

************************************************************ *** ************************************************************ *** Colyn Goodson
Fort Worth, Texas

http://home.swbell.net/colyng

http://www.colyngoodson.com
http://www.colyngoodson.com/sale.html
http://www.colyngoodson.com/manuals.html
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Colyn
Nov 25, 2003
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 02:54:01 +0000 (UTC), Paul J Gans
wrote:

Be reasonable. Since many folks do not use the full power of Photoshop, the GIMP is perfectly adequate. It isn’t a bad program at all. That it is not quite Photoshop is
not a sin. Lots of programs aren’t quite Photoshop.
Actually I like Gimp. I’ve played with it and find it on a par with PhotoShop Elements which I would consider to be pretty good..

************************************************************ *** ************************************************************ *** Colyn Goodson
Fort Worth, Texas

http://home.swbell.net/colyng

http://www.colyngoodson.com
http://www.colyngoodson.com/sale.html
http://www.colyngoodson.com/manuals.html
EG
Eric Gill
Nov 25, 2003
Paul J Gans wrote in news:bpug89$i6n$:

Eric Gill wrote:
"Glenn Pechacek" wrote in
news::

You should support the GIMP and not use PhotoShop.

…and use a Radio Flyer wagon instead of a Peterbuilt to haul freight professionally.

After all, it costs much less.

Be reasonable. Since many folks do not use the full power of Photoshop, the GIMP is perfectly adequate. It isn’t a bad program at all. That it is not quite Photoshop is
not a sin. Lots of programs aren’t quite Photoshop.

I am. Note I’m not the one making a blanket statement, and neither Adobe’s actions to date nor the cost are justification enough for print professionals to hamstring their income by adopting something completely unsuited for their work.

And, Paul – experimental, recently-added partial CMYK support isn’t "not quite" Photoshop.
Congratulations. There goes my biggest excuse for not converting. Now to find the time to learn a new OS,

<sigh>

I finally got photoshop up and running today in my Linux computer..
I was beginning to miss it..
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subdude
Nov 25, 2003
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 01:47:34 GMT, Colyn graced
us with:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 01:08:54 GMT, edjh wrote:

What are you using to run it? How’s the performance?
I’m running it through a program called wine.

It allows you to run windows compatable software on Linux.
Performance is as good as when I ran it on Win 2k except startup takes maybe a couple of seconds longer.. Other than that, I don’t notice any difference.
Don’t worry about too much Colyn; I’m running CS on a Win2k PC and it takes a hell of a lot longer to init than PS7 did with 1/3 of the original plugins. Off course, Adobe suppport says this is imgained…apparently a *lot* of people are sharing my imagination.

subdude

<and yes, it’s REGISTERED!>
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erimies
Nov 25, 2003
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 01:47:34 GMT, Colyn posted:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 01:08:54 GMT, edjh wrote:

What are you using to run it? How’s the performance?
I’m running it through a program called wine.

It allows you to run windows compatable software on Linux.
Performance is as good as when I ran it on Win 2k except startup takes maybe a couple of seconds longer.. Other than that, I don’t notice any difference.

I’m alo running ACDSee and Forte Agent (posting this with it)..
I’m also going to install Guild which is my favorite ftp server..
************************************************************ *** ************************************************************ *** Colyn Goodson
Fort Worth, Texas

http://home.swbell.net/colyng

http://www.colyngoodson.com
http://www.colyngoodson.com/sale.html
http://www.colyngoodson.com/manuals.html

have you put up your experience on the web, step by step instructions that is. as increasing numbers of windows programs shift to activation, more users will be interested in linux, and how to run their apps on it. for me, photoshop elements 2, and agent are two must-haves on my windows machines.
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Stephan
Nov 25, 2003
"Colyn" wrote in message
I finally got photoshop up and running today in my Linux computer..

What Linux version?

Stephan
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Colyn
Nov 26, 2003
It was on this day Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:43:10 GMT, "Dr. J. Smith" pecked out these words:

Congratulations. There goes my biggest excuse for not converting. Now to find the time to learn a new OS,

<sigh>
Linux is easy to learn..

************************************************************ *** ************************************************************ *** Colyn Goodson
Fort Worth, Texas

http://home.swbell.net/colyng

http://www.colyngoodson.com
http://www.colyngoodson.com/sale.html
http://www.colyngoodson.com/manuals.html
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Colyn
Nov 26, 2003
It was on this day Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:12:46 GMT,
(someone) pecked out these words:

have you put up your experience on the web, step by step instructions that is. as increasing numbers of windows programs shift to activation, more users will be interested in linux, and how to run their apps on it. for me, photoshop elements 2, and agent are two must-haves on my windows machines.
Sounds like a good idea.

I may put up a howto on my website..

************************************************************ *** ************************************************************ *** Colyn Goodson
Fort Worth, Texas

http://home.swbell.net/colyng

http://www.colyngoodson.com
http://www.colyngoodson.com/sale.html
http://www.colyngoodson.com/manuals.html
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Colyn
Nov 26, 2003
It was on this day Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:09:48 GMT, "Stephan" pecked out these words:

I finally got photoshop up and running today in my Linux computer..

What Linux version?

Stephan
I’m running Suse Linux v9.0 pro

************************************************************ *** ************************************************************ *** Colyn Goodson
Fort Worth, Texas

http://home.swbell.net/colyng

http://www.colyngoodson.com
http://www.colyngoodson.com/sale.html
http://www.colyngoodson.com/manuals.html
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Hecate
Nov 26, 2003
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 02:54:01 +0000 (UTC), Paul J Gans
wrote:

Eric Gill wrote:
"Glenn Pechacek" wrote in
news::

You should support the GIMP and not use PhotoShop.

…and use a Radio Flyer wagon instead of a Peterbuilt to haul freight professionally.

After all, it costs much less.

Be reasonable. Since many folks do not use the full power of Photoshop, the GIMP is perfectly adequate. It isn’t a bad program at all. That it is not quite Photoshop is
not a sin. Lots of programs aren’t quite Photoshop.

—- Paul J. Gans

The person was staging that he should use the Gimp regardless. And Eric was pointing out the fallacy of that statement.

Q: Would you use the Gimp if your income depended upon it?



Hecate

veni, vidi, relinqui
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Hecate
Nov 26, 2003
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 01:47:34 GMT, Colyn wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 01:08:54 GMT, edjh wrote:

What are you using to run it? How’s the performance?
I’m running it through a program called wine.

It allows you to run windows compatable software on Linux.
Performance is as good as when I ran it on Win 2k except startup takes maybe a couple of seconds longer.. Other than that, I don’t notice any difference.

I’m alo running ACDSee and Forte Agent (posting this with it)..
I’m also going to install Guild which is my favorite ftp server..
And do you know why it’s called whine? (sic) ? 😉

It’ll be fine as long as you don’t need to process large images. Then you’ll find out why it’s called whine 😉

If you can afford it, VMWare, which allows multiple OSs on a single workstation is a much better bet.



Hecate

veni, vidi, relinqui
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Hecate
Nov 26, 2003
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 14:42:16 GMT, subdude
wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 01:47:34 GMT, Colyn graced
us with:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 01:08:54 GMT, edjh wrote:

What are you using to run it? How’s the performance?
I’m running it through a program called wine.

It allows you to run windows compatable software on Linux.
Performance is as good as when I ran it on Win 2k except startup takes maybe a couple of seconds longer.. Other than that, I don’t notice any difference.
Don’t worry about too much Colyn; I’m running CS on a Win2k PC and it takes a hell of a lot longer to init than PS7 did with 1/3 of the original plugins. Off course, Adobe suppport says this is imgained…apparently a *lot* of people are sharing my imagination.
subdude

<and yes, it’s REGISTERED!>

<g> Actually, the problem is not PS In most cases) but AutoFx software which splurge hundreds of unneeded files across your hard disk, all of which need to be registered by PS when it boots up.



Hecate

veni, vidi, relinqui
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Colyn
Nov 26, 2003
It was on this day Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:22:43 +0000, Hecate pecked out these words:

It’ll be fine as long as you don’t need to process large images. Then you’ll find out why it’s called whine 😉
I’ve processed some files as large as 10-15 meg which is as large as I was doing in Win 2k with no problems..
If you can afford it, VMWare, which allows multiple OSs on a single workstation is a much better bet.
Since I’m only going to run a few win programs, wine is good enough for me..

************************************************************ *** ************************************************************ *** Colyn Goodson
Fort Worth, Texas

http://home.swbell.net/colyng

http://www.colyngoodson.com
http://www.colyngoodson.com/sale.html
http://www.colyngoodson.com/manuals.html
PJ
Paul J Gans
Nov 26, 2003
Colyn wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 02:52:49 +0000 (UTC), Paul J Gans
wrote:

Colyn wrote:

I finally got photoshop up and running today in my Linux computer..

I was beginning to miss it..

Could you give a few hints on how you did it? And what version of photoshop you have running?
I’m running it through wine http://www.winehq.com/ a crossover program which allows you to run windows based programs.

I’m using PhotoShop 7 as well as ACDSee and Forte Agent.

Thanks.

I assume that you are using a more-or-less current version of linux as well.

—- Paul J. Gans
PJ
Paul J Gans
Nov 26, 2003
Eric Gill wrote:
Paul J Gans wrote in news:bpug89$i6n$:

Eric Gill wrote:
"Glenn Pechacek" wrote in
news::

You should support the GIMP and not use PhotoShop.

…and use a Radio Flyer wagon instead of a Peterbuilt to haul freight professionally.

After all, it costs much less.

Be reasonable. Since many folks do not use the full power of Photoshop, the GIMP is perfectly adequate. It isn’t a bad program at all. That it is not quite Photoshop is
not a sin. Lots of programs aren’t quite Photoshop.

I am. Note I’m not the one making a blanket statement, and neither Adobe’s actions to date nor the cost are justification enough for print professionals to hamstring their income by adopting something completely unsuited for their work.

And, Paul – experimental, recently-added partial CMYK support isn’t "not quite" Photoshop.

Hey, I practice sarcasm on the net — a dangerous pastime since it usually doesn’t come through as sarcasm.

But I’ll stand by the fact that many if not most of the
users of Photoshop do not need its full power.

—- Paul J. Gans
PJ
Paul J Gans
Nov 26, 2003
Colyn wrote:
It was on this day Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:12:46 GMT,
(someone) pecked out these words:

have you put up your experience on the web, step by step instructions that is. as increasing numbers of windows programs shift to activation, more users will be interested in linux, and how to run their apps on it. for me, photoshop elements 2, and agent are two must-haves on my windows machines.
Sounds like a good idea.

I may put up a howto on my website..

Please let us know if you do.

— Paul J. Gans
PJ
Paul J Gans
Nov 26, 2003
Hecate wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 02:54:01 +0000 (UTC), Paul J Gans
wrote:

Eric Gill wrote:
"Glenn Pechacek" wrote in
news::

You should support the GIMP and not use PhotoShop.

…and use a Radio Flyer wagon instead of a Peterbuilt to haul freight professionally.

After all, it costs much less.

Be reasonable. Since many folks do not use the full power of Photoshop, the GIMP is perfectly adequate. It isn’t a bad program at all. That it is not quite Photoshop is
not a sin. Lots of programs aren’t quite Photoshop.

—- Paul J. Gans

The person was staging that he should use the Gimp regardless. And Eric was pointing out the fallacy of that statement.

Q: Would you use the Gimp if your income depended upon it?

No. I am a linux user. I’m responding to you from a linux machine. Gimp is installed on it and I’ve used it for some things. For any complex work I switch to windows and Photoshop.

—– Paul J. Gans
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Waldo
Nov 26, 2003
Be reasonable. Since many folks do not use the full power of Photoshop, the GIMP is perfectly adequate. It isn’t a bad program at all. That it is not quite Photoshop is
not a sin. Lots of programs aren’t quite Photoshop.

Speaking of functionality, it might be true. The interface (at least in Windows) sucks very badly. After a few weeks, I uninstalled it. The functionality is quite good, but as long as the menus are so annoying, I won’t install it again.

Waldo
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subdude
Nov 26, 2003
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:24:18 +0000, Hecate graced
us with:

Don’t worry about too much Colyn; I’m running CS on a Win2k PC and it takes a hell of a lot longer to init than PS7 did with 1/3 of the original plugins. Off course, Adobe suppport says this is imgained…apparently a *lot* of people are sharing my imagination.
subdude

<and yes, it’s REGISTERED!>

<g> Actually, the problem is not PS In most cases) but AutoFx software which splurge hundreds of unneeded files across your hard disk, all of which need to be registered by PS when it boots up.



Hecate

veni, vidi, relinqui

Nope, and I’ll tell you what else it isn’t:

Not AutoFX plugins – PS CS without any AutoFX plugins takes longer to load than PS7 with *all* the AutoFX plugins

Not the amount of plugins – I reduced them to a third of the PS7 plugins…no effect

Not the amount of memory – changes to the amount allocated to PS make no difference.

Not the twain plugin – though removing it loads both versions faster, and since I don’t often scan directly into PS this isn’t an issue

Not the amount of fonts installed – though I have a large number of fonts installed, this isn’t where PS slows down…on either version

Of course if you bring this up on the PS forums at Adobe, Chris Cox will cut and paste a reply pointing you to another thread that doesn’t help at all. (In fact if it wasn’t for another user there I wouldn’t have even been able to find the thread.)

I wonder when Adobe is going to own up to the fact that there *IS* an issue since so many others seem to be making the same complaint. I should note that I don’t have a problem with performance once CS is running (as some folks have been posting) just this interminable wait to get plugins loaded. If anyone has an idea I haven’t tried yet, I’d sure appreciate hearing from you.

subdude
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Eric Gill
Nov 26, 2003
Paul J Gans wrote in
news:bq1egd$i0c$:

Eric Gill wrote:
Paul J Gans wrote in
news:bpug89$i6n$:

Eric Gill wrote:
"Glenn Pechacek" wrote in
news::

You should support the GIMP and not use PhotoShop.

…and use a Radio Flyer wagon instead of a Peterbuilt to haul freight professionally.

After all, it costs much less.

Be reasonable. Since many folks do not use the full power of Photoshop, the GIMP is perfectly adequate. It isn’t a bad program at all. That it is not quite Photoshop is
not a sin. Lots of programs aren’t quite Photoshop.

I am. Note I’m not the one making a blanket statement, and neither Adobe’s actions to date nor the cost are justification enough for print professionals to hamstring their income by adopting something completely unsuited for their work.

And, Paul – experimental, recently-added partial CMYK support isn’t "not quite" Photoshop.

Hey, I practice sarcasm on the net — a dangerous pastime since it usually doesn’t come through as sarcasm.

Sorry. Hard to tell these days, I’m so used to kooks.

But I’ll stand by the fact that many if not most of the
users of Photoshop do not need its full power.

Probably not.
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Colyn
Nov 26, 2003
It was on this day Wed, 26 Nov 2003 05:39:31 +0000 (UTC), Paul J Gans pecked out these words:

I’m running it through wine http://www.winehq.com/ a crossover program which allows you to run windows based programs.

I’m using PhotoShop 7 as well as ACDSee and Forte Agent.

Thanks.

I assume that you are using a more-or-less current version of linux as well.
Suse v9.0
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Colyn
Nov 26, 2003
It was on this day Wed, 26 Nov 2003 05:52:19 +0000 (UTC), Paul J Gans pecked out these words:

Colyn wrote:
It was on this day Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:12:46 GMT,
(someone) pecked out these words:

have you put up your experience on the web, step by step instructions that is. as increasing numbers of windows programs shift to activation, more users will be interested in linux, and how to run their apps on it. for me, photoshop elements 2, and agent are two must-haves on my windows machines.
Sounds like a good idea.

I may put up a howto on my website..

Please let us know if you do.
Will do..
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Hecate
Nov 27, 2003
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:52:18 GMT, subdude
wrote:

<g> Actually, the problem is not PS In most cases) but AutoFx software which splurge hundreds of unneeded files across your hard disk, all of which need to be registered by PS when it boots up.



Hecate

veni, vidi, relinqui

Nope, and I’ll tell you what else it isn’t:

Not AutoFX plugins – PS CS without any AutoFX plugins takes longer to load than PS7 with *all* the AutoFX plugins

Well, that’s what some people have reported and have had success by removing or cutting down. YMMV.



Hecate

veni, vidi, relinqui
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Hecate
Nov 27, 2003
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 01:36:28 GMT, Colyn wrote:

It was on this day Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:22:43 +0000, Hecate pecked out these words:

It’ll be fine as long as you don’t need to process large images. Then you’ll find out why it’s called whine 😉
I’ve processed some files as large as 10-15 meg which is as large as I was doing in Win 2k with no problems..
Yep, that wouldn’t be a problem at that level. Though it does matter what you mean by process.

If you can afford it, VMWare, which allows multiple OSs on a single workstation is a much better bet.
Since I’m only going to run a few win programs, wine is good enough for me..
Just don’t run them all at the same time 🙂



Hecate

veni, vidi, relinqui
PJ
Paul J Gans
Nov 27, 2003
Waldo wrote:
Be reasonable. Since many folks do not use the full power of Photoshop, the GIMP is perfectly adequate. It isn’t a bad program at all. That it is not quite Photoshop is
not a sin. Lots of programs aren’t quite Photoshop.

Speaking of functionality, it might be true. The interface (at least in Windows) sucks very badly. After a few weeks, I uninstalled it. The functionality is quite good, but as long as the menus are so annoying, I won’t install it again.

Waldo

If you are talking about the Gimp, I agree.

—- Paul J. Gans
PJ
Paul J Gans
Nov 27, 2003
Eric Gill wrote:
Paul J Gans wrote in
news:bq1egd$i0c$:

Eric Gill wrote:
Paul J Gans wrote in
news:bpug89$i6n$:

Eric Gill wrote:
"Glenn Pechacek" wrote in
news::

You should support the GIMP and not use PhotoShop.

…and use a Radio Flyer wagon instead of a Peterbuilt to haul freight professionally.

After all, it costs much less.

Be reasonable. Since many folks do not use the full power of Photoshop, the GIMP is perfectly adequate. It isn’t a bad program at all. That it is not quite Photoshop is
not a sin. Lots of programs aren’t quite Photoshop.

I am. Note I’m not the one making a blanket statement, and neither Adobe’s actions to date nor the cost are justification enough for print professionals to hamstring their income by adopting something completely unsuited for their work.

And, Paul – experimental, recently-added partial CMYK support isn’t "not quite" Photoshop.

Hey, I practice sarcasm on the net — a dangerous pastime since it usually doesn’t come through as sarcasm.

Sorry. Hard to tell these days, I’m so used to kooks.

You spend too much time in talk.origins… 😉

But I’ll stand by the fact that many if not most of the
users of Photoshop do not need its full power.

Probably not.

—- Paul J. Gans
EG
Eric Gill
Nov 27, 2003
Paul J Gans wrote in news:bq3u7p$ee5$2
@reader2.panix.com:

Eric Gill wrote:
Paul J Gans wrote in
news:bq1egd$i0c$:

Eric Gill wrote:
Paul J Gans wrote in
news:bpug89$i6n$:

Eric Gill wrote:
"Glenn Pechacek" wrote in
news::

You should support the GIMP and not use PhotoShop.

…and use a Radio Flyer wagon instead of a Peterbuilt to haul freight professionally.

After all, it costs much less.

Be reasonable. Since many folks do not use the full power of Photoshop, the GIMP is perfectly adequate. It isn’t a bad program at all. That it is not quite Photoshop is
not a sin. Lots of programs aren’t quite Photoshop.

I am. Note I’m not the one making a blanket statement, and neither Adobe’s actions to date nor the cost are justification enough for print professionals to hamstring their income by adopting something completely unsuited for their work.

And, Paul – experimental, recently-added partial CMYK support isn’t "not quite" Photoshop.

Hey, I practice sarcasm on the net — a dangerous pastime since it usually doesn’t come through as sarcasm.

Sorry. Hard to tell these days, I’m so used to kooks.

You spend too much time in talk.origins… 😉

Oh, yeah. Mainly to take my mind off clients for a few minutes.

Kooks tend to be ubiquitous these days, though. Most groups have one or two, though the quality doesn’t seem to be gaining anything from the quantity.

But I’ll stand by the fact that many if not most of the
users of Photoshop do not need its full power.

Probably not.

—- Paul J. Gans
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Hecate
Nov 28, 2003
On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 04:45:21 GMT, Eric Gill
wrote:

Kooks tend to be ubiquitous these days, though. Most groups have one or two, though the quality doesn’t seem to be gaining anything from the quantity.
True. I used to enjoy the battle of wits, but I refuse to engage with the unarmed 😉



Hecate

veni, vidi, relinqui
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subdude
Nov 28, 2003
On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:37:40 +0000, Hecate graced
us with:

Nope, and I’ll tell you what else it isn’t:

Not AutoFX plugins – PS CS without any AutoFX plugins takes longer to load than PS7 with *all* the AutoFX plugins

Well, that’s what some people have reported and have had success by removing or cutting down. YMMV.



Hecate

veni, vidi, relinqui

I hope I didn’t sound ungrateful for your tip Hecate; it’s just my level of frustration building. If you hear of anything else through the grapevine please pass it my way via the group.

Thanks,

subdude
EG
Eric Gill
Nov 28, 2003
Hecate wrote in
news::

On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 04:45:21 GMT, Eric Gill
wrote:

Kooks tend to be ubiquitous these days, though. Most groups have one or two, though the quality doesn’t seem to be gaining anything from the quantity.
True. I used to enjoy the battle of wits, but I refuse to engage with the unarmed 😉

Ahh, they’re useful as punching bags.

Up to a point. There’s an esepcially pathetic one in Talk.Origins at the moment – a fan of both Elron Hubbard and a young Earth Creationist named Kent Hovind…despite Hubbard’s wierd religion needing a universe billions of years old and Hovind’s wierd religion needing it to be 6,000. Might be a Holocaust revisionist, too, but he’s so illucid, well…

He’s so beaten and bloody at this point it’s hardly worth the effort. Probably part of what Paul was talking about.
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Hecate
Nov 29, 2003
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 03:12:26 GMT, subdude
wrote:

On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:37:40 +0000, Hecate graced
us with:

Nope, and I’ll tell you what else it isn’t:

Not AutoFX plugins – PS CS without any AutoFX plugins takes longer to load than PS7 with *all* the AutoFX plugins

Well, that’s what some people have reported and have had success by removing or cutting down. YMMV.



Hecate

veni, vidi, relinqui

I hope I didn’t sound ungrateful for your tip Hecate; it’s just my level of frustration building. If you hear of anything else through the grapevine please pass it my way via the group.

Thanks,
Not a problem 😉

I’ll certainly pass on anything else I hear.

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I wonder if it’s because of product activation…

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😉



Hecate

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