panorama problem

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Mike Hide
Dec 4, 2003
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Imagine being in front of the midpoint of a twenty mile long wall .

Imagine the wall is level and an even hight throughout it’s length

If I stand a mile from this mid point and take several shots of the wall I can stitch these shots together to form a panorama and things look pretty normal.

If I stand 50 feet from the wall and attempt the same the shots when stitched together to the left of the midpoint disappear to a point as do those on the left .

The shots at the mid point meet at an angle because of the convergance of each side of the centerline .A shot dead on the centerline should be parallel .

Two questions does the eye automatically correct for this situation and secondly is there a way of correcting this photographic effect .


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Kelly and Robert
Dec 4, 2003
Did you try editing the photos in question individually? "Mike Hide" wrote in message
Imagine being in front of the midpoint of a twenty mile long wall .
Imagine the wall is level and an even hight throughout it’s length
If I stand a mile from this mid point and take several shots of the wall I can stitch these shots together to form a panorama and things look pretty normal.

If I stand 50 feet from the wall and attempt the same the shots when stitched together to the left of the midpoint disappear to a point as do those on the left .

The shots at the mid point meet at an angle because of the convergance of each side of the centerline .A shot dead on the centerline should be parallel .

Two questions does the eye automatically correct for this situation and secondly is there a way of correcting this photographic effect .

mike hide

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Glenn Pechacek
Dec 5, 2003
You would have to keep the film plane parallel to the wall, so the camera should be moved to the left not just rotated to the left.

"Mike Hide" wrote in message
Imagine being in front of the midpoint of a twenty mile long wall .
Imagine the wall is level and an even hight throughout it’s length
If I stand a mile from this mid point and take several shots of the wall I can stitch these shots together to form a panorama and things look pretty normal.

If I stand 50 feet from the wall and attempt the same the shots when stitched together to the left of the midpoint disappear to a point as do those on the left .

The shots at the mid point meet at an angle because of the convergance of each side of the centerline .A shot dead on the centerline should be parallel .

Two questions does the eye automatically correct for this situation and secondly is there a way of correcting this photographic effect .

mike hide

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llutton
Dec 5, 2003
Imagine being in front of the midpoint of a twenty mile long wall .
Imagine the wall is level and an even hight throughout it’s length
If I stand a mile from this mid point and take several shots of the wall I can stitch these shots together to form a panorama and things look pretty normal.

If I stand 50 feet from the wall and attempt the same the shots when stitched together to the left of the midpoint disappear to a point as do those on the left .

The shots at the mid point meet at an angle because of the convergance of each side of the centerline .A shot dead on the centerline should be parallel .

Two questions does the eye automatically correct for this situation and secondly is there a way of correcting this photographic effect . mike hide

You would have to keep the film plane parallel to the wall, so the camera should be moved to the left not just rotated to the left.

This would correct the convergence problem, but the problem with making a panorama by moving parallel with the wall and clicking the camera, is the other objects like trees are repeated each time in a different location. One tree now becomes 4 or 5 trees depending on how many camera clicks made. That still may be the best solution in some cases.
Lynn
Lynn
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Mike Hide
Dec 5, 2003
The particular subject of course is not a wall but a church . The shots were taken from the churchyard . The chuchyard contains many trees which in some areas totally obscure the church this essentially prevents taking shots parallel to the building .

the only solution I can think of [and it probably is not the preferred solution] is to use the transform and scale one side of each shot so that the horizontals are horizontal ,i.e. the effects of paralax are eliminated . This method seems to work to a degree, however it does seem to introduce unwanted distortions in some cases.


mike hide

"LLutton" wrote in message
Imagine being in front of the midpoint of a twenty mile long wall .
Imagine the wall is level and an even hight throughout it’s length
If I stand a mile from this mid point and take several shots of the
wall I
can stitch these shots together to form a panorama and things look
pretty
normal.

If I stand 50 feet from the wall and attempt the same the shots when stitched together to the left of the midpoint disappear to a point as
do
those on the left .

The shots at the mid point meet at an angle because of the convergance
of
each side of the centerline .A shot dead on the centerline should be parallel .

Two questions does the eye automatically correct for this situation and secondly is there a way of correcting this photographic effect . mike hide

You would have to keep the film plane parallel to the wall, so the camera should be moved to the left not just rotated to the left.

This would correct the convergence problem, but the problem with making a panorama by moving parallel with the wall and clicking the camera, is the
other
objects like trees are repeated each time in a different location. One
tree now
becomes 4 or 5 trees depending on how many camera clicks made. That still
may
be the best solution in some cases.
Lynn
Lynn
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bitsnpieces
Dec 5, 2003
Perhaps this site and its links can help.

http://www.caldwellphotographic.com/Mosaics.html

Mike Hide wrote:
Imagine being in front of the midpoint of a twenty mile long wall .
Imagine the wall is level and an even hight throughout it’s length
If I stand a mile from this mid point and take several shots of the wall I can stitch these shots together to form a panorama and things look pretty normal.

If I stand 50 feet from the wall and attempt the same the shots when stitched together to the left of the midpoint disappear to a point as do those on the left .

The shots at the mid point meet at an angle because of the convergance of each side of the centerline .A shot dead on the centerline should be parallel .

Two questions does the eye automatically correct for this situation and secondly is there a way of correcting this photographic effect .

mike hide
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Robert Feinman
Dec 5, 2003
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Imagine being in front of the midpoint of a twenty mile long wall .
Imagine the wall is level and an even hight throughout it’s length
If I stand a mile from this mid point and take several shots of the wall I can stitch these shots together to form a panorama and things look pretty normal.

If I stand 50 feet from the wall and attempt the same the shots when stitched together to the left of the midpoint disappear to a point as do those on the left .

The shots at the mid point meet at an angle because of the convergance of each side of the centerline .A shot dead on the centerline should be parallel .

Two questions does the eye automatically correct for this situation and secondly is there a way of correcting this photographic effect .

mike hide
This type of correction is exactly what panorama stitching programs do. Take a look at the shareware panorama factory. It will warp the images so that they join properly and can be viewed online or printed. I have many examples on my web site.
Then CS version of Photoshop also has a limited ability to do this.


Robert D Feinman

Landscapes, Cityscapes, Panoramas and Photoshop Tips
http://robertdfeinman.com
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Mike Hide
Dec 5, 2003
Thanks for the help and suggestions . I have given it some thought in the last few days and for the most part I thin the functions are almost linear ,with the exception of the area immediately adjacent to the normal point
[where everything is at 90 degrees to the object being photographed] of the
object being shot . So I will try to use slices to make adjustments to this area and see how that compares to the excellent references suggested . —
mike hide

"Mike Hide" wrote in message
Imagine being in front of the midpoint of a twenty mile long wall .
Imagine the wall is level and an even hight throughout it’s length
If I stand a mile from this mid point and take several shots of the wall I can stitch these shots together to form a panorama and things look pretty normal.

If I stand 50 feet from the wall and attempt the same the shots when stitched together to the left of the midpoint disappear to a point as do those on the left .

The shots at the mid point meet at an angle because of the convergance of each side of the centerline .A shot dead on the centerline should be parallel .

Two questions does the eye automatically correct for this situation and secondly is there a way of correcting this photographic effect .

mike hide

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llutton
Dec 7, 2003
Let us know how this works out for you.
Lynn

Thanks for the help and suggestions . I have given it some thought in the last few days and for the most part I thin the functions are almost linear ,with the exception of the area immediately adjacent to the normal point
[where everything is at 90 degrees to the object being photographed] of the
object being shot . So I will try to use slices to make adjustments to this area and see how that compares to the excellent references suggested . —
mike hide

"Mike Hide" wrote in message
Imagine being in front of the midpoint of a twenty mile long wall .
Imagine the wall is level and an even hight throughout it’s length
If I stand a mile from this mid point and take several shots of the wall I can stitch these shots together to form a panorama and things look pretty normal.

If I stand 50 feet from the wall and attempt the same the shots when stitched together to the left of the midpoint disappear to a point as do those on the left .

The shots at the mid point meet at an angle because of the convergance of each side of the centerline .A shot dead on the centerline should be parallel .
Two questions does the eye automatically correct for this situation and secondly is there a way of correcting this photographic effect .

mike hide

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