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very nice… typically american design tho!
i have a logo book showcasing ‘the best logo designs’ and the american stuff is really similar (suppose the same coud be said about scandanavian, german, french and british design)

mark

"Yitz" wrote in message

Hi – I’m in the process of designing this 3-panel brochure and was looking for feedback and critiques so I can improve on it. Please bash anything

you

don’t like!

Front:
http://www.pushingtheenvelope.ca/NCSY/NCSYIvyLeagueLarge.jpg
Inside:

http://www.pushingtheenvelope.ca/NCSY/NCSYIvyLeagueInsideLar ge.jpg

Thanks,

Yitz

and where are you from?

radman wrote:

very nice… typically american design tho!
i have a logo book showcasing ‘the best logo designs’ and the american stuff is really similar (suppose the same coud be said about scandanavian, german, french and british design)

mark

"Yitz" wrote in message

Hi – I’m in the process of designing this 3-panel brochure and was looking for feedback and critiques so I can improve on it. Please bash anything

you

don’t like!

Front:
http://www.pushingtheenvelope.ca/NCSY/NCSYIvyLeagueLarge.jpg
Inside:

http://www.pushingtheenvelope.ca/NCSY/NCSYIvyLeagueInsideLar ge.jpg

Thanks,

Yitz

Hi there Yitz

Really very nice job!

True what Radman says, looks very traditional american, but appreciate that in most cases.

The only thing I noticed was that in the picture with the 2 girls, 1 of them (or perhaps both?) could use a teeth whitening treatment 🙂

I also thought about the Statue of Liberty. It looks quite a lot green. I haven’t looked for reference material, but it seems it could be desaturated little.

But once again, very nice!

Greets

Littleboy

"Yitz" wrote in message

Hi – I’m in the process of designing this 3-panel brochure and was looking for feedback and critiques so I can improve on it. Please bash anything

you

don’t like!

Front:
http://www.pushingtheenvelope.ca/NCSY/NCSYIvyLeagueLarge.jpg
Inside:

http://www.pushingtheenvelope.ca/NCSY/NCSYIvyLeagueInsideLar ge.jpg

Thanks,

Yitz

The old looking faded edge effect works well on the inside and the flag but looks akward with the cityscape & green flap. Especially the address over the cityscape. Just my first thoughts. I didn’t know what the faded edge was implying till I saw the other pages. Better than I could do though <g>.

Yitz wrote:

Hi – I’m in the process of designing this 3-panel brochure and was looking for feedback and critiques so I can improve on it. Please bash anything you don’t like!

Front:
http://www.pushingtheenvelope.ca/NCSY/NCSYIvyLeagueLarge.jpg
Inside:

http://www.pushingtheenvelope.ca/NCSY/NCSYIvyLeagueInsideLar ge.jpg

Thanks,

Yitz

me = mark | r

mark
"Jeff Engel" wrote in message

and where are you from?

radman wrote:

very nice… typically american design tho!
i have a logo book showcasing ‘the best logo designs’ and the american

stuff

is really similar (suppose the same coud be said about scandanavian,

german,

french and british design)

mark

"Yitz" wrote in message

Hi – I’m in the process of designing this 3-panel brochure and was

looking

for feedback and critiques so I can improve on it. Please bash

anything

you

don’t like!

Front:
http://www.pushingtheenvelope.ca/NCSY/NCSYIvyLeagueLarge.jpg
Inside:

http://www.pushingtheenvelope.ca/NCSY/NCSYIvyLeagueInsideLar ge.jpg

Thanks,

Yitz

UK

mark
"radman" wrote in message

very nice… typically american design tho!
i have a logo book showcasing ‘the best logo designs’ and the american

stuff

is really similar (suppose the same coud be said about scandanavian,

german,

french and british design)

mark

"Yitz" wrote in message

Hi – I’m in the process of designing this 3-panel brochure and was

looking

for feedback and critiques so I can improve on it. Please bash anything

you

don’t like!

Front:
http://www.pushingtheenvelope.ca/NCSY/NCSYIvyLeagueLarge.jpg
Inside:

http://www.pushingtheenvelope.ca/NCSY/NCSYIvyLeagueInsideLar ge.jpg

Thanks,

Yitz

Thanks for all your responses… and compliments.

Looking forward to more critiques!

Yitz

Lookin good 🙂

Matt
—
Banging your head against a wall uses 150 calories an hour.

"Yitz" wrote in message

Hi – I’m in the process of designing this 3-panel brochure and was looking for feedback and critiques so I can improve on it. Please bash anything

you

don’t like!

Front:
http://www.pushingtheenvelope.ca/NCSY/NCSYIvyLeagueLarge.jpg
Inside:

http://www.pushingtheenvelope.ca/NCSY/NCSYIvyLeagueInsideLar ge.jpg

Thanks,

Yitz

Lookin good 🙂

Matt
—
Banging your head against a wall uses 150 calories an hour.

"Yitz" wrote in message

Hi – I’m in the process of designing this 3-panel brochure and was looking for feedback and critiques so I can improve on it. Please bash anything

you

don’t like!

Front:
http://www.pushingtheenvelope.ca/NCSY/NCSYIvyLeagueLarge.jpg
Inside:

http://www.pushingtheenvelope.ca/NCSY/NCSYIvyLeagueInsideLar ge.jpg

Thanks,

Yitz

Yitz wrote:

Thanks for all your responses… and compliments.

Looking forward to more critiques!

Yitz

Looks good. I agree: very American, lots of flags and the statue, but appropriate probably in this case? (before you ask: I am Dutch).

One technical remark: the test on the inside does not
"register" with which I mean: the lines in the first and second column are not on the same height. Some may find that picky, I do not, lining it all up makes it much more
peaceful to the eyes.

I realize using the small caps makes that a bit hard, but it is doable.
—
Peter

the photos:

any folks of color at columbia???

"frank" wrote in message

the photos:

any folks of color at columbia???

Yeah, right! and there are 9 girls for 5 boys , what about that? And where is the guy in a wheelchair and where is the "native American"? And the brochure does not look like the "visually impaired" can read it, the blue does not contrast too good…
Sometimes "politically correct" is just too stupid! Are you a lawyer by any chance?

Stephan

Hej Peter

Now that you mention it…. that’s true.
It is quite disturbing.

It should be easy enough to correct though, so please do Yitz.

"Ph" wrote in message

Yitz wrote:

Thanks for all your responses… and compliments.

Looking forward to more critiques!

Yitz

Looks good. I agree: very American, lots of flags and the statue, but appropriate probably in this case? (before you ask: I am Dutch).

One technical remark: the test on the inside does not
"register" with which I mean: the lines in the first and second column are not on the same height. Some may find that picky, I do not, lining it all up makes it much more
peaceful to the eyes.

I realize using the small caps makes that a bit hard, but it is doable.
—
Peter

Stephan – you got to learn to use the delete key. 😛

or let people have their monologues. welcome to newsgroups. It’s not an A-List party here.

"Stephan" wrote in message

"frank" wrote in message

the photos:

any folks of color at columbia???

Yeah, right! and there are 9 girls for 5 boys , what about that? And where is the guy in a wheelchair and where is the "native American"? And the brochure does not look like the "visually impaired" can read it,

the

blue does not contrast too good…
Sometimes "politically correct" is just too stupid! Are you a lawyer by any chance?

Stephan

I can imagine why it happened, it is probably all made in Illustrator Yitz? I woud always make the images in
Photoshop/Illustrator and add the text in InDesign or
XPress. Much stronger for text lay out of course. And like I said the small caps make it somewhat more problematic.

Teenyweeny question………I see that a lot in the States (where I am living now). Is that just me? I even want it to register on both sides of the page, hold it through the
light and the text should be on the same height.

Peter(AZ)

Littleboy wrote:

Hej Peter

Now that you mention it…. that’s true.
It is quite disturbing.

It should be easy enough to correct though, so please do Yitz.
"Ph" wrote in message

Yitz wrote:

Thanks for all your responses… and compliments.

Looking forward to more critiques!

Yitz

Looks good. I agree: very American, lots of flags and the statue, but appropriate probably in this case? (before you ask: I am Dutch).

One technical remark: the test on the inside does not
"register" with which I mean: the lines in the first and second column are not on the same height. Some may find that picky, I do not, lining it all up makes it much more
peaceful to the eyes.

I realize using the small caps makes that a bit hard, but it is doable.
—
Peter

could u make it even bigger!

In article <tpnBb.1104$>, "Yitz"
wrote:

Hi – I’m in the process of designing this 3-panel brochure and was looking for feedback and critiques so I can improve on it. Please bash anything you don’t like!

Front:
http://www.pushingtheenvelope.ca/NCSY/NCSYIvyLeagueLarge.jpg
Inside:

http://www.pushingtheenvelope.ca/NCSY/NCSYIvyLeagueInsideLar ge.jpg

Thanks,

Yitz

On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 20:32:24 GMT, "Stephan"
wrote:

"frank" wrote in message

the photos:

any folks of color at columbia???

Yeah, right! and there are 9 girls for 5 boys , what about that? And where is the guy in a wheelchair and where is the "native American"? And the brochure does not look like the "visually impaired" can read it, the blue does not contrast too good…
Sometimes "politically correct" is just too stupid! Are you a lawyer by any chance?

The thing is, if you’re black, brown, female, disabled, etc (and I’m two of those not including etc <g>) and you’re trying to promote or sell something with a brochure, and it doesn’t include anything but white males… Well, I for one would tend to dismiss it completely regardless. So the question really has nothing to do with PC but everything to do with your target market. If you don’t want to address anyone but white males, that’s fine., go ahead. But if you’d prefer to address a somewhat wider market (and there are more women than men) then you could lose out but being so blinkered.

—

Hecate

veni, vidi, relinqui

Thanks for your political correctness concerns. Acknowledged.

"woodsie" wrote in message

could u make it even bigger!

In article <tpnBb.1104$>, "Yitz"
wrote:

Hi – I’m in the process of designing this 3-panel brochure and was

looking

for feedback and critiques so I can improve on it. Please bash anything

you

don’t like!

Front:
http://www.pushingtheenvelope.ca/NCSY/NCSYIvyLeagueLarge.jpg
Inside:

http://www.pushingtheenvelope.ca/NCSY/NCSYIvyLeagueInsideLar ge.jpg

Thanks,

Yitz

"Yitz" wrote in message

Thanks for all your responses… and compliments.

Looking forward to more critiques!

Yitz

Looks like shit.
Improve it by torching it, or is it illegal to burn the flag?

Death to the christian military.

The flag’s shape looks like it’s draped over a coffin, very appropriate since we’re still involved in a war (or whatever Bush calls it now)!

The statue of liberty, alongside kids who look like a bunch of hardy partiers?

Personally I’d ditch the flag and statue.

Mike

Yitz wrote:

Hi – I’m in the process of designing this 3-panel brochure and was looking for feedback and critiques so I can improve on it. Please bash anything you don’t like!

Front:
http://www.pushingtheenvelope.ca/NCSY/NCSYIvyLeagueLarge.jpg
Inside:

http://www.pushingtheenvelope.ca/NCSY/NCSYIvyLeagueInsideLar ge.jpg

Thanks,

Yitz

Yitz wrote:

Thanks for your political correctness concerns. Acknowledged.

Am I in your killfile?
—
Peter

Regardless of points of view on this issue (which I gather is more of an issue in the States then in Europe), this is not really any of your concern, is it Yitz? I assume you are doing this job for someone, and it is their concern whether they’d find it neccessary to underline the school is open to everyone (which again I assume it is).

The most I suggest you do Yitz, is explain this point brought forth by newsgroup critics to your employer, not so much because you are concerned about it, but simply in the lines of trying to think along with your employer. Perhaps they welcome your perceptive comment very much. In my experience employers appreciate potentially constructive comments very much, as they can also oversee things easily.

Besides this advice, I don’t think this newsgroup is the place to discuss these matters in deep. I’m sure there are the right newsgroups for these subjects as well.

Regards

Littleboy

"Yitz" wrote in message

Stephan – you got to learn to use the delete key. 😛

or let people have their monologues. welcome to newsgroups. It’s not an A-List party here.

"Stephan" wrote in message

"frank" wrote in message

the photos:

any folks of color at columbia???

Yeah, right! and there are 9 girls for 5 boys , what about that? And where is the guy in a wheelchair and where is the "native American"? And the brochure does not look like the "visually impaired" can read it,

the

blue does not contrast too good…
Sometimes "politically correct" is just too stupid! Are you a lawyer by any chance?

Stephan

Hey Peter – thanks for mentioning that – yeah the file was made in Illustrator. I agree that the text should be on the same base line. I’ll fix that.

Yitz

"Ph" wrote in message

I can imagine why it happened, it is probably all made in Illustrator Yitz? I woud always make the images in
Photoshop/Illustrator and add the text in InDesign or
XPress. Much stronger for text lay out of course. And like I said the small caps make it somewhat more problematic.

Teenyweeny question………I see that a lot in the States (where I am living now). Is that just me? I even want it to register on both sides of the page, hold it through the
light and the text should be on the same height.

Peter(AZ)

Littleboy wrote:

Hej Peter

Now that you mention it…. that’s true.
It is quite disturbing.

It should be easy enough to correct though, so please do Yitz.
"Ph" wrote in message

Yitz wrote:

Thanks for all your responses… and compliments.

Looking forward to more critiques!

Yitz

Looks good. I agree: very American, lots of flags and the statue, but appropriate probably in this case? (before you ask: I am Dutch).

One technical remark: the test on the inside does not
"register" with which I mean: the lines in the first and second column are not on the same height. Some may find that picky, I do not, lining it all up makes it much more
peaceful to the eyes.

I realize using the small caps makes that a bit hard, but it is doable.
—
Peter

What does killfile mean?

"Ph" wrote in message

Yitz wrote:

Thanks for your political correctness concerns. Acknowledged.

Am I in your killfile?
—
Peter

My mom said it looks like a coffin too.

I don’t want it to look like a coffin. 🙁

"mscir" wrote in message

The flag’s shape looks like it’s draped over a coffin, very appropriate since we’re still involved in a war (or whatever Bush calls it now)!
The statue of liberty, alongside kids who look like a bunch of hardy partiers?

Personally I’d ditch the flag and statue.

Mike

Yitz wrote:

Hi – I’m in the process of designing this 3-panel brochure and was

looking

for feedback and critiques so I can improve on it. Please bash anything

you

don’t like!

Front:
http://www.pushingtheenvelope.ca/NCSY/NCSYIvyLeagueLarge.jpg
Inside:

http://www.pushingtheenvelope.ca/NCSY/NCSYIvyLeagueInsideLar ge.jpg

Thanks,

Yitz

Thanks – I’ll take a look at the teeth and statue colours.

Yitz.

"Littleboy" <littleboy_at_emp3mail.com> wrote in message

Hi there Yitz

Really very nice job!

True what Radman says, looks very traditional american, but appreciate

that

in most cases.

The only thing I noticed was that in the picture with the 2 girls, 1 of

them

(or perhaps both?) could use a teeth whitening treatment 🙂
I also thought about the Statue of Liberty. It looks quite a lot green. I haven’t looked for reference material, but it seems it could be

desaturated

little.

But once again, very nice!

Greets

Littleboy

"Yitz" wrote in message

Hi – I’m in the process of designing this 3-panel brochure and was

looking

for feedback and critiques so I can improve on it. Please bash anything

you

don’t like!

Front:
http://www.pushingtheenvelope.ca/NCSY/NCSYIvyLeagueLarge.jpg
Inside:

http://www.pushingtheenvelope.ca/NCSY/NCSYIvyLeagueInsideLar ge.jpg

Thanks,

Yitz

I see that a lot in the States
(where I am living now). Is that just me? I even want it to

www.pushingtheenvelope.ca, considering it’s a .ca domain, I’ll make the leap and say the designer is in Canada not the US. Just a small point, may be picky.

Coffins are cool, as long as you are looking at them from the outside. —

Ron.

Yitz wrote in message

My mom said it looks like a coffin too.

I don’t want it to look like a coffin. 🙁

"Hecate" wrote in message

On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 20:32:24 GMT, "Stephan"
wrote:

"frank" wrote in message

the photos:

any folks of color at columbia???

Yeah, right! and there are 9 girls for 5 boys , what about that? And where is the guy in a wheelchair and where is the "native American"? And the brochure does not look like the "visually impaired" can read it,

the

blue does not contrast too good…
Sometimes "politically correct" is just too stupid! Are you a lawyer by any chance?

The thing is, if you’re black, brown, female, disabled, etc (and I’m two of those not including etc <g>) and you’re trying to promote or sell something with a brochure, and it doesn’t include anything but white males… Well, I for one would tend to dismiss it completely regardless. So the question really has nothing to do with PC but everything to do with your target market. If you don’t want to address anyone but white males, that’s fine., go ahead. But if you’d prefer to address a somewhat wider market (and there are more women than men) then you could lose out but being so blinkered.

I bet black gay females end up buying Marlboros!

Stephan

Never kind I am not:)))

Killfile is a set of rules with which you can avoid seeing people on usenet you choose not to see.

Peter(AZ)

Yitz wrote:

What does killfile mean?

"Ph" wrote in message

Yitz wrote:

Thanks for your political correctness concerns. Acknowledged.

Am I in your killfile?
—
Peter

On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:41:18 GMT, "Stephan"
wrote:

I bet black gay females end up buying Marlboros!

You got one out of two and I hate Marlboros 🙂

—

Hecate

veni, vidi, relinqui

"Hecate" wrote in message

On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:41:18 GMT, "Stephan"
wrote:

I bet black gay females end up buying Marlboros!

You got one out of two and I hate Marlboros 🙂

Two out of three

On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 02:40:22 GMT, "Stephan"
wrote:

"Hecate" wrote in message

On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:41:18 GMT, "Stephan"
wrote:

I bet black gay females end up buying Marlboros!

You got one out of two and I hate Marlboros 🙂

Two out of three

Er, yes, I lost count 😉

—

Hecate

veni, vidi, relinqui

Yitz,
I really like your layout. The cover is very conservative as well as patriotic.
What really struck me as funny was the four images of people. It looks like a
highschool yearbook series where some kid went around shooting embarassed groups of kids doing nothing. This might not be your call. If it is, the images should
tell a story or be relevent to your piece. They don’t seem to fit the image of the whole
piece is what I’m trying to say.
John M.

I agree. The images that were given to me were of these pathetic kids…. I will try to ask them to see if there are any other images that I could use.

Thanks – yitz

"jwm2" wrote in message

Yitz,
I really like your layout. The cover is very conservative as well as patriotic.
What really struck me as funny was the four images of people. It looks

like

a
highschool yearbook series where some kid went around shooting embarassed groups of kids doing nothing. This might not be your call. If it is, the images should
tell a story or be relevent to your piece. They don’t seem to fit the

image

of the whole
piece is what I’m trying to say.
John M.

"Yitz" wrote in message

Hi – I’m in the process of designing this 3-panel brochure and was

looking

for feedback and critiques so I can improve on it. Please bash

anything you

don’t like!

Front:
http://www.pushingtheenvelope.ca/NCSY/NCSYIvyLeagueLarge.jpg
Inside:

http://www.pushingtheenvelope.ca/NCSY/NCSYIvyLeagueInsideLar ge.jpg

Thanks,

Yitz

Like I said before you took my post off
Looks like shit.
Improve it by torching it, or is it illegal to burn the flag?

It would even look better if you put the jew flag in with it and burned both at the same time.

Death to the christian military.

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:14:21 -0500, "Chrissy Chen" scribbled:

"Yitz" wrote in message

Hi – I’m in the process of designing this 3-panel brochure and was

looking

for feedback and critiques so I can improve on it. Please bash

anything you

don’t like!

Front:
http://www.pushingtheenvelope.ca/NCSY/NCSYIvyLeagueLarge.jpg
Inside:

http://www.pushingtheenvelope.ca/NCSY/NCSYIvyLeagueInsideLar ge.jpg

Thanks,

Yitz

Like I said before you took my post off
Looks like shit.
Improve it by torching it, or is it illegal to burn the flag?
It would even look better if you put the jew flag in with it and burned both at the same time.

Death to the christian military.

Fucking bigot.

in article , Voivod at
wrote on 12/18/03 10:55 AM:

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:14:21 -0500, "Chrissy Chen" scribbled:

"Yitz" wrote in message

Hi – I’m in the process of designing this 3-panel brochure and was

looking

for feedback and critiques so I can improve on it. Please bash

anything you

don’t like!

Front:
http://www.pushingtheenvelope.ca/NCSY/NCSYIvyLeagueLarge.jpg
Inside:

http://www.pushingtheenvelope.ca/NCSY/NCSYIvyLeagueInsideLar ge.jpg

Thanks,

Yitz

Like I said before you took my post off
Looks like shit.
Improve it by torching it, or is it illegal to burn the flag?
It would even look better if you put the jew flag in with it and burned both at the same time.

Death to the christian military.

Fucking bigot.

Crybaby.