Images being shown darker in PS7

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Blankety_Blank
Oct 14, 2003
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Photoshop’s been working perfectly until now, but…

Whenever I open images in Photoshop 7, they appear darker than they really are. When I open the same file on different programs, they appear fine. Even the preview thumbnail is darker, but the toolbar and swatch colors are perfectly normal.

I’ve tried messing around with the color settings and resetting the preferences, but no luck.

Anybody more Photoshop adept than myself know what’s going on here?

< http://picserver.student.utwente.nl/getpicture.php?id=403712> for a comparison. The image on the left is the original in Photoshop Elements, the one on the right is the same file, but in PS7.
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Chris_Cox
Oct 14, 2003
Read up on color management, and check your display profile and color preferences.
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Blankety_Blank
Oct 15, 2003
The display profile is fine, and the color preferences are the default…
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dave_milbut
Oct 15, 2003
rerun adobe gamma from the control panel.
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Chris_Cox
Oct 16, 2003
Again, read up — you’re seeing things the way they should be, but are apparently expecting something else…..
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Primero
Oct 23, 2003
I have the same problem. I’ve adjusted all of the color management stuff again and have gone through the adobe gamma as well. The problem has not been corrected. I must readjust a picture’s curves a second time to get a true color print on something I had previously adjusted in photoshop and then closed. This is time consuming and can get expensive with wasted prints. What else can I do to get a true color picture?
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Chris_Cox
Oct 23, 2003
Primero – if you used Adobe Gamma, then you already ARE seeing a true color picture in Photoshop.

Printing what you see depends on the choices you make in the print dialogs. See <http://www.computer-darkroom.com/> for details.
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Primero
Oct 26, 2003
Thank you Chris for your reply.

I guess I wasn’t making myself clear. After I’ve "fixed" the photos, saved them, printed them once or more…and then closed the computer and the program for a few days is when the problem occurs. If I need to go back to the picture again, I have to remake all of the light/dark adjustments. The color is ok. For some reason the pictures are not saving correctly. I’m at a loss as to figure out why. As I said above, I already have the adobe gamma running, the colors are embedded, etc.; the only time the problem occurs is when I have to reopen a previously worked file. This doesn’t happen with gifs or bitmaps only jpgs, tiffs, and yes, psd documents.
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Glen_Kanzer
Oct 27, 2003
ok, I am having the same issue, I am running two displays… one is running digital, the other analog.

I open the picture in each, does not matter, they are both showing dark. I open the picture in paint shop pro in each.. and they are fine.

tried to run the adobe gamma correction, but it was correcting my entire screen, not just the picture.
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Klaas_Visser
Oct 27, 2003
tried to run the adobe gamma correction, but it was correcting my entire screen, not just the picture.

It is supposed to. Adobe Gamma sets up your monitor to be colour corrected, which is necessary for any colour managed application (like Photoshop), and will allow the monitor to display colours that are very close to the actual colours captured in the image.
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Glen_Kanzer
Oct 27, 2003
the correction changes the entire monitor, but it makes it look horrible… as i said.. I am running in duel… i don’t want my entire display looking completely off just to fix the pictures that are opening in this one application.

my basic monitor window blues are totally changing with that fix. doesn’t seem correct.
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Glen_Kanzer
Oct 27, 2003
interesting complication.
I have PSP opened on my left screen, and PS on my right.. (the digital one) same picture. when I go to view, proof setup and then moniter RGB the pictures FINALLY look the same. it isn’t dark anymore. HOWEVER, my thumbnail in the navigator view looks extremely red. it just keeps getting stranger.
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LenHewitt
Oct 27, 2003
Glen,

You have been told what to do. You apparently have chosen to ignore that advice. Until you do follow that advice you will never achieve accurate colour.
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Klaas_Visser
Oct 27, 2003
Not sure what you mean by "display looking completely off". I have dual monitors, and Adobe Gamma corrects only one (at least in WinXP), so the secondary monitor isn’t colour corrected – in fact, compared to the primary, the uncorrected secondary monitor it has some red tint to it. However, I don’t worry about that, as all image work is done on the primary.

my basic monitor window blues are totally changing with that fix.

This sounds like the colour temperature settings in Adobe Gamma are not correct – does your monitor have temperature settings (usually something like 5000°K or 6500°K or 9300°K)?

Setting MonitorRGB for proofing just changes the displayed colour to something approaching the sRGB colourspace, which most monitors display reasonably well – it doesn’t change the actual colour profile of the image.

If you don’t want to use Photoshop’s colour management system at all, you can turn it off. Go to the Edit menu and select "Color Settings" – from the pull down list, select "Color Management Off".

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