is PC photoshop diff from apple photoshop?

"mi mo" wrote in news:7oGDb.571355$:

I am trying to decide on my next computer its been 2.5 years with this xp 1500 athlon. So I considering apple?

Well, okay. Didn’t like the Athlon?

Granted, it was hardly cutting edge even 2 1/2 years ago, but are you just looking for some more speed or what?

Any feedback?

Yes. What size of images are you editing?

Also Is there a difference of photoshop for apple, and
photoshop for pc..

Some trivial differences in the way the menus behave.

When I look at the macs in the store they seem to have
more style and affects?

No, the two versions of PS are functionally the same.

Thank you Everyone for your feedback?

You bet.

Eric,

more thoughts, and thanks! Having a good day! Need to do shopping

Funtionally yes but packaging and add ons im not sure?

That is funny my friends PC with photoshop and the apple at school and store have more Styles for test and buttons.. They have like brushed blue steel and glass for text and buttons. The pc ones i seen do not have this. I use fireworks for now on my pc , athlon is fine for basic computing, slow harddrive, low video card so games werent great, aslo small screen 🙁

Graphics 500k to 40k for webmostly, might do some stuff with photos but that rare usually I size them down.

macromedia studio and photo, basic web stuff more speed is always nice. I probally can live with out the preset styles but they were nice on the mac.

I called adobe, they werent sure, being a sales guy and not a user but thinks might have more styles in mac, since 4 out 6 users are mac of there products.

I really want a knew computer but don;t need it. I am so undecided on what to get? I could get a agood around pc for 3.0 p4, 1 gig ddr400, 9800xt / 256 , 160hd at $1500 + $1000 for samsung flatscreen monitor 21 inch, that would leave me games and money for a digital camera nikon 5600 what i really want! total for pc and monitor $2500… pc are more upgradeable

or get a apple daul only 512ddr, 1.8, for 2300 and 1166 for 20 inch apple monitor! less games.. apple $3466

diff of $944

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"mi mo" wrote in news:7oGDb.571355$:

I am trying to decide on my next computer its been 2.5 years with this

xp

1500 athlon. So I considering apple?

Well, okay. Didn’t like the Athlon?

Granted, it was hardly cutting edge even 2 1/2 years ago, but are you just looking for some more speed or what?

Any feedback?

Yes. What size of images are you editing?

Also Is there a difference of photoshop for apple, and
photoshop for pc..

Some trivial differences in the way the menus behave.

When I look at the macs in the store they seem to have
more style and affects?

No, the two versions of PS are functionally the same.

Thank you Everyone for your feedback?

You bet.

"mi mo" wrote in news:FLHDb.65030$:

Eric,

more thoughts, and thanks! Having a good day! Need to do shopping
Funtionally yes but packaging and add ons im not sure?

Having both and doing prepress-oriented IT work, I am.

That is funny my friends PC with photoshop and the apple at school and store have more Styles for test and buttons.. They have like brushed blue steel and glass for text and buttons. The pc ones i seen do not have this.

Those would be downloaded or purchased, then. The Styles are the same in the same release.

Furthermore, they are cross-platform. You can use those from your Apple friends. You can also download hundreds, if not thousands, of brushes, actions, styles and the like.

I use fireworks for now on my pc , athlon is fine for basic computing, slow harddrive, low video card so games werent great, aslo small screen 🙁

Right.

Graphics 500k to 40k for webmostly, might do some stuff with photos but that rare usually I size them down.

None of this is going to stress a modern machine of any persuasion – all the operations are going to be nearly instantaneous. I’d reccomend going with the less expensive alternative.

http://www.pricewatch.com/

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On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 16:27:47 GMT, "mi mo" wrote:

I am trying to decide on my next computer its been 2.5 years with this xp 1500 athlon. So I considering apple?

Any feedback? Also Is there a difference of photoshop for apple, and photoshop for pc.. When I look at the macs in the store they seem to have more style and affects?

i believe the styles and effects are available, same for both PC and Mac. Once you are operating inside the program, the differences are almost imperceptible. I use both PC and Mac and I really dont have a preference. You can buy a very powerful PC for less money than the comparable Mac.

mi mo wrote:

I am trying to decide on my next computer its been 2.5 years with this xp 1500 athlon. So I considering apple?

Have you considered just swapping out the motherboard and getting a new display card? You could probably jack up your performance considerably just by spending a few hundred dollars for a new MB + faster memory.

Enlist the resources of the local high school PC guru – some of these young folks are very fluent at building high performance systems for their video games..

Any feedback? Also Is there a difference of photoshop for apple, and photoshop for pc.. When I look at the macs in the store they seem to have more style and affects?

Apples do have more style, and are definitely more affected. I would not recommend casually going with Macintosh at this time, unless you have a strong personal preference, or other compelling reason to do so. The reasons for this include OSX application and device driver issues, and the extra cost of hardware and software.
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In article <27JDb.40580$>, Mike
Russell wrote:

The reasons for this include OSX application and device driver issues, and the extra cost of hardware and software.

Application and driver support is good now. This was true in the early days of OS X, but not any more. The extra cost of hardware also is no longer true. A Mac is the cheaper home computer you can buy. Software prices are about the same, although you can find some software that is cheaper or higher than the Windows version.

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 18:01:10 GMT, "mi mo" wrote:

Eric,

more thoughts, and thanks! Having a good day! Need to do shopping
Funtionally yes but packaging and add ons im not sure?

That is funny my friends PC with photoshop and the apple at school and store have more Styles for test and buttons.. They have like brushed blue steel and glass for text and buttons. The pc ones i seen do not have this. I use fireworks for now on my pc , athlon is fine for basic computing, slow harddrive, low video card so games werent great, aslo small screen 🙁
Graphics 500k to 40k for webmostly, might do some stuff with photos but that rare usually I size them down.

macromedia studio and photo, basic web stuff more speed is always nice. I probally can live with out the preset styles but they were nice on the mac.
I called adobe, they werent sure, being a sales guy and not a user but thinks might have more styles in mac, since 4 out 6 users are mac of there products.

I really want a knew computer but don;t need it. I am so undecided on what to get? I could get a agood around pc for 3.0 p4, 1 gig ddr400, 9800xt / 256 , 160hd at $1500 + $1000 for samsung flatscreen monitor 21 inch, that would leave me games and money for a digital camera nikon 5600 what i really want! total for pc and monitor $2500… pc are more upgradeable
or get a apple daul only 512ddr, 1.8, for 2300 and 1166 for 20 inch apple monitor! less games.. apple $3466

diff of $944

You get more machine for your money with a PC/ You’re used to a PC. Guess what I’m going to suggest? 😉

As for PS – there is no difference apart from the obvious one that one runs on a mac and the other runs on a PC 😉

And to be honest, with what you are doing with images, you don’t really need Photoshop. You’d be better off with Elements.

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I have my answers, Thanks to everyone had something great to say…. We are going with a Custom PC, and my digital camera 🙂

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In article <27JDb.40580$>, Mike
Russell wrote:

The reasons for this include OSX application and device driver issues, and the extra cost of hardware and software.

Application and driver support is good now. This was true in the early days of OS X, but not any more. The extra cost of hardware also is no longer true. A Mac is the cheaper home computer you can buy. Software prices are about the same, although you can find some software that is cheaper or higher than the Windows version.

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 19:26:13 -0500, Steve Moody
wrote:

In article <27JDb.40580$>, Mike
Russell wrote:

The reasons for this include OSX application and device driver issues, and the extra cost of hardware and software.

Application and driver support is good now. This was true in the early days of OS X, but not any more. The extra cost of hardware also is no longer true. A Mac is the cheaper home computer you can buy. Software prices are about the same, although you can find some software that is cheaper or higher than the Windows version.

Let me guess – you live in the US. In the UK you can expect to pay 25-30% more for an equivalent Mac as against a PC.

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"Steve Moody" wrote in message
[snip]

The extra cost of hardware also
is no longer true. A Mac is the cheaper home computer you can buy.

[snip]

Not in the US, my friend.

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In article <3fe20224$>, Flycaster
wrote:

The extra cost of hardware also
is no longer true. A Mac is the cheaper home computer you can buy.

[snip]

Not in the US, my friend.

Yes. In the US. A PC that is comparable to a Mac is speed, quality, software, and features costs more. You are fooled by off the shelf price. A PC off the shelf is cheaper than a Mac off the shelf. This is because the PC comes with so much less than the Mac.

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:50:02 -0500, Steve Moody
wrote:

In article <3fe20224$>, Flycaster
wrote:

The extra cost of hardware also
is no longer true. A Mac is the cheaper home computer you can buy.

[snip]

Not in the US, my friend.

Yes. In the US. A PC that is comparable to a Mac is speed, quality, software, and features costs more. You are fooled by off the shelf price. A PC off the shelf is cheaper than a Mac off the shelf. This is because the PC comes with so much less than the Mac.

That would be like the G5, advertised as fastest desktop computer in the world? Except , of course, in the UK where Apple had to pull the adverts when our Advertising Standards Commission made them put up or shut up. They shut up.

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In article , Hecate
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Yes. In the US. A PC that is comparable to a Mac is speed, quality, software, and features costs more. You are fooled by off the shelf price. A PC off the shelf is cheaper than a Mac off the shelf. This is because the PC comes with so much less than the Mac.

That would be like the G5, advertised as fastest desktop computer in the world? Except , of course, in the UK where Apple had to pull the adverts when our Advertising Standards Commission made them put up or shut up. They shut up.

Don’t put words in my mouth. I’m not talking about the G5. I’m talking about any off the shelf PC. Take any off the shelf PC and compare that to a Mac of the same speed. Add to the PC to give it the features of the Mac it the PC will now cost more than the Mac.

Steve Moody wrote:

In article , Hecate
wrote:

Yes. In the US. A PC that is comparable to a Mac is speed, quality, software, and features costs more. You are fooled by off the shelf price. A PC off the shelf is cheaper than a Mac off the shelf. This is because the PC comes with so much less than the Mac.

That would be like the G5, advertised as fastest desktop computer in the world? Except , of course, in the UK where Apple had to pull the adverts when our Advertising Standards Commission made them put up or shut up. They shut up.

Don’t put words in my mouth. I’m not talking about the G5. I’m talking about any off the shelf PC. Take any off the shelf PC and compare that to a Mac of the same speed. Add to the PC to give it the features of the Mac it the PC will now cost more than the Mac.

I’ve seen all this before at least 40 times – can you take this thread to a Mac advocacy group where there is a ghost of a chance that it will be interesting and appropriate?
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In article <3fe20224$>, Flycaster
wrote:

The extra cost of hardware also
is no longer true. A Mac is the cheaper home computer you can buy.

[snip]

Not in the US, my friend.

Yes. In the US. A PC that is comparable to a Mac is speed, quality, software, and features costs more. You are fooled by off the shelf price. A PC off the shelf is cheaper than a Mac off the shelf. This is because the PC comes with so much less than the Mac.

I own them both, I also build PC’s, and I know for a fact that the Mac simply loses that particular battle. If you want to argue that the Mac is better for different reasons, fine, I’ll buy that. Otherwise, take this nonsense elsewhere.

Back to Photoshop…

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On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 01:58:54 -0500, Steve Moody
wrote:

In article , Hecate
wrote:

Yes. In the US. A PC that is comparable to a Mac is speed, quality, software, and features costs more. You are fooled by off the shelf price. A PC off the shelf is cheaper than a Mac off the shelf. This is because the PC comes with so much less than the Mac.

That would be like the G5, advertised as fastest desktop computer in the world? Except , of course, in the UK where Apple had to pull the adverts when our Advertising Standards Commission made them put up or shut up. They shut up.

Don’t put words in my mouth. I’m not talking about the G5. I’m talking about any off the shelf PC. Take any off the shelf PC and compare that to a Mac of the same speed. Add to the PC to give it the features of the Mac it the PC will now cost more than the Mac.

That’s easy then. I can buy an Athlon 64 F51 cheaper than a Mac G5.

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On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 10:01:22 -0800, "Flycaster" wrote:

"Steve Moody" wrote in message

In article <3fe20224$>, Flycaster
wrote:

The extra cost of hardware also
is no longer true. A Mac is the cheaper home computer you can buy.

[snip]

Not in the US, my friend.

Yes. In the US. A PC that is comparable to a Mac is speed, quality, software, and features costs more. You are fooled by off the shelf price. A PC off the shelf is cheaper than a Mac off the shelf. This is because the PC comes with so much less than the Mac.

I own them both, I also build PC’s, and I know for a fact that the Mac simply loses that particular battle. If you want to argue that the Mac is better for different reasons, fine, I’ll buy that. Otherwise, take this nonsense elsewhere.

Back to Photoshop…

Absolutely. Unfortunately there’s no stopping a Mac fanatic 🙂

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Absolutely. Unfortunately there’s no stopping a Mac fanatic 🙂

Frankly, the issue to me is not so much the fanaticism as it is the misinformation promulgated by Apple. Macs *do* have their advantages, but they will *always* cost more due to the simple fact that there is zero same-platform competition. Unfortuantely, Apple is so [necessarily] sensititive to the pricing differential that they invent good sounding BS (even resorting to cooked tests) in order to try to obfuscate this fact. IMO, they make excellent high priced computer platforms and other consumer devices, and they should not even bother to enter into this "pricing" argument, which they will never, never win.

Nonetheless, if they weren’t around, I have little doubt that the Wintel/Winamd platforms would cost considerably more. Competition is GOOD. 😉

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mi mo wrote:

Funtionally yes but packaging and add ons im not sure?

There IS one difference: the Mac version doesn’t have product activation (at least, not yet), and that’s a good thing.
http://www.adobe.com/activation/main.html

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In article , Hecate
wrote:

Don’t put words in my mouth. I’m not talking about the G5. I’m talking about any off the shelf PC. Take any off the shelf PC and compare that to a Mac of the same speed. Add to the PC to give it the features of the Mac it the PC will now cost more than the Mac.

That’s easy then. I can buy an Athlon 64 F51 cheaper than a Mac G5.

Really. And will will come with the same comparable features and the same comparable software? Cheaper? If so, then it will be the first time I’ve seen it. Point me to the company that is selling it.

On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:05:47 -0500, Steve Moody
wrote:

In article , Hecate
wrote:

Don’t put words in my mouth. I’m not talking about the G5. I’m talking about any off the shelf PC. Take any off the shelf PC and compare that to a Mac of the same speed. Add to the PC to give it the features of the Mac it the PC will now cost more than the Mac.

That’s easy then. I can buy an Athlon 64 F51 cheaper than a Mac G5.

Really. And will will come with the same comparable features and the same comparable software? Cheaper? If so, then it will be the first time I’ve seen it. Point me to the company that is selling it.

Yes. Try looking at, for example, www.multivison.co.uk or www.mesh.co.uk or www.evesham.com

The try and find a G5 anywhere in the UK where the price comes even close…

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In article , Hecate
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Yes. Try looking at, for example, www.multivison.co.uk or www.mesh.co.uk or www.evesham.com

The try and find a G5 anywhere in the UK where the price comes even close.

Eveham has one that started out at about half the price but was only £300 cheaper than the G5 after I customized it to make it more comparable to the G5. But it still did not come with the same hardware (no gigabit ethernet, the memory will go only to 1GB, and others). It doesn’t come with comparable software. It all boils down to what I’ve already said. You get less for your dollar/Pound when you buy a PC. Macs are cheaper than PCs.

This is yet another time that I has compared a "cheaper" PC to a comparable Macintosh only to find that the PC came with less than the Mac and adding to it to make them the same results in the Mac coming out on the better side.

No activation in the Mac world because they do not have to worry about pirates in volume.

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mi mo wrote:

Funtionally yes but packaging and add ons im not sure?

There IS one difference: the Mac version doesn’t have product activation (at least, not yet), and that’s a good thing.
http://www.adobe.com/activation/main.html

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Donald Link wrote:

No activation in the Mac world because they do not have to worry about pirates in volume.

Good point, but the market penetration of Photoshop is much greater in the Macintosh world than the PC world, especially among professionals who, indicentally, tend to pay for their software. But your point still stands.

It’s also true that the Photoshop folks are still a bit Mac-centric, and for good reason. The roots of Photoshop are deep in the Macintosh world, and Macintosh folks are very organized politically, and generally less tolerant than PC people of inconvenient changes.

Adobe might have to back off on activation in the face of a unified customer response, which appears not to be happening, so far. In that light it would be a poor idea to make the Mac folks, the core constituency if you will, unhappy. At least not until the *next* release 🙂
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On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 00:08:18 -0500, Steve Moody
wrote:

In article , Hecate
wrote:

Yes. Try looking at, for example, www.multivison.co.uk or www.mesh.co.uk or www.evesham.com

The try and find a G5 anywhere in the UK where the price comes even close.

Eveham has one that started out at about half the price but was only £300 cheaper than the G5 after I customized it to make it more comparable to the G5. But it still did not come with the same hardware (no gigabit ethernet, the memory will go only to 1GB, and others). It doesn’t come with comparable software. It all boils down to what I’ve already said. You get less for your dollar/Pound when you buy a PC. Macs are cheaper than PCs.

This is yet another time that I has compared a "cheaper" PC to a comparable Macintosh only to find that the PC came with less than the Mac and adding to it to make them the same results in the Mac coming out on the better side.

Well, that’s where I disagree. And we’re always going to disagree because as far as I’m concerned you use whatever tool does the job best, and that doesn’t mean paying for stuff you don’t need such as "comparable software" and gigabit ethernet. OTOH, as far as you’re concerned a Mac is better however much it underperforms compared to a computer which does the job faster (and yes, the Athlon 64 is faster for the tasks I would require). That’s the difference between us – I buy based on price performance, you buy on the principle of "My Mac right or wrong".

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In article , Hecate
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Well, that’s where I disagree. And we’re always going to disagree because as far as I’m concerned you use whatever tool does the job

I agree that is is important to use the platform that works for you. However, giving someone false information when they are thinking of buying a system is doing that person a disservice.

best, and that doesn’t mean paying for stuff you don’t need such as "comparable software" and gigabit ethernet. OTOH, as far as you’re

Amazing. I see this all the time. Someone says that Macs are more expensive than PCs, I prove them wrong, and then it suddenly becomes unimportant.

"Steve Moody" wrote in message

Amazing. I see this all the time. Someone says that Macs are more expensive than PCs, I prove them wrong, and then it suddenly becomes unimportant.

No. The reason she disagrees is because you’ve "proved" no such thing, and she knows otherwise, as do I (and, yes, I own them both.)

Back to photoshop…

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On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 23:30:43 -0500, Steve Moody
wrote:

In article , Hecate
wrote:

Well, that’s where I disagree. And we’re always going to disagree because as far as I’m concerned you use whatever tool does the job

I agree that is is important to use the platform that works for you. However, giving someone false information when they are thinking of buying a system is doing that person a disservice.

best, and that doesn’t mean paying for stuff you don’t need such as "comparable software" and gigabit ethernet. OTOH, as far as you’re

Amazing. I see this all the time. Someone says that Macs are more expensive than PCs, I prove them wrong, and then it suddenly becomes unimportant.

No, you haven’t proved me wrong. Take the "comparable software" for instance. I’m sure lots of Photoshop users will be distraught that they don’t have iTunes if they buy a PC. However, if that’s the comparable software you’re talking about, well, PC users can use WMP for free.

So, what’s the comparable software you’re talking about? Let’s see what you have and I’ll go away and price everything up and bring the prices back here and we can see how right you are. Or not.

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On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:14:08 -0800, "Flycaster" wrote:

"Steve Moody" wrote in message

Amazing. I see this all the time. Someone says that Macs are more expensive than PCs, I prove them wrong, and then it suddenly becomes unimportant.

No. The reason she disagrees is because you’ve "proved" no such thing, and she knows otherwise, as do I (and, yes, I own them both.)
Back to photoshop…

Yes. It just amazes me how some people can be so taken in by advertising. Apple may not be the best computers in the world, but they obviously have an excellent marketing department.

Now, as you say, back to PS … 😉

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On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 23:30:43 -0500, Steve Moody
wrote:

In article , Hecate
wrote:

Well, that’s where I disagree. And we’re always going to disagree because as far as I’m concerned you use whatever tool does the job

I agree that is is important to use the platform that works for you. However, giving someone false information when they are thinking of buying a system is doing that person a disservice.

best, and that doesn’t mean paying for stuff you don’t need such as "comparable software" and gigabit ethernet. OTOH, as far as you’re

Amazing. I see this all the time. Someone says that Macs are more expensive than PCs, I prove them wrong, and then it suddenly becomes unimportant.

No, you haven’t proved me wrong. Take the "comparable software" for instance. I’m sure lots of Photoshop users will be distraught that they don’t have iTunes if they buy a PC. However, if that’s the comparable software you’re talking about, well, PC users can use WMP for free.

So, what’s the comparable software you’re talking about? Let’s see what you have and I’ll go away and price everything up and bring the prices back here and we can see how right you are. Or not.

I’ll save you both the trouble. Here’s the computer part of a PC-based, digital imaging/home computer system I just built for a friend (and, BTW, I told him it was *ridiculous* to do this…but it’s his money).

(The line breaks may make this a little confusing, but it’s all there)

Case w/ PS Antec SX1040BII (430w PS) zipzoomfly.com (formerly GG) $ 93.00
MB Asus SK8V zipzoomfly.com (formerly GG) $ 220.00 Proc AMD AMD Athlon 64 FX51 zipzoomfly.com (formerly GG) $ 765.00
DDR Ram Corsair CMX512-3200C2 4x512MB DDR400 zipzoomfly.com (formerly GG) $ 432.00
Video Card ATI Radeon 9600 pro zipzoomfly.com (formerly GG) $ 135.00
HD 1 WD WD360GD 36.7GB Serial ATA 10,000RPM zipzoomfly.com (formerly GG) $ 117.00
HD 2 WD WD360GD 36.7GB Serial ATA 10,000RPM zipzoomfly.com (formerly GG) $ 117.00
HD 3 WD WD800JB (80GB) zipzoomfly.com (formerly GG) $
74.00
Hd 4 WD WD800JB (80GB) zipzoomfly.com (formerly GG) $
74.00
DVD-R/W – CD-RW Plextor PX708A zipzoomfly.com (formerly GG) $ 210.00
PCI Modem Generic zipzoomfly.com (formerly GG) $ 25.00 Keyboard & mouse logitech Cordless Freedom zipzoomfly.com (formerly GG) $ 50.00
Monitor LaCie Electron Blue IV (w/ colorimeter)
accessories.gateway.com $ 673.00
Speakers logitech 2.1 zipzoomfly.com (formerly GG) $
65.00
Windows XP Pro MS zipzoomfly.com (formerly GG) $ 138.00 MS Office XP SBE MS zipzoomfly.com (formerly GG) $ 174.00

Sub-total $ 3,362.00

At the Apple Store, a new G-5 (Dual 2GHz) configured just about *exactly* the same (except NO RAID, lower end monitor, lower end DVD-R/W – CD-RW combo drive, and no colorimeter): $5, 436.00 (S&H NOT incl.). So, unless my math is totally screwed up, the comparable Mac (at the upper end) costs about 60-70% more than the comparable homebuilt PC, which uses better components. (Frankly, this much of a differential surprises me. Wow!)

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On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 15:13:09 -0800, "Flycaster" wrote:

At the Apple Store, a new G-5 (Dual 2GHz) configured just about *exactly* the same (except NO RAID, lower end monitor, lower end DVD-R/W – CD-RW combo drive, and no colorimeter): $5, 436.00 (S&H NOT incl.). So, unless my math is totally screwed up, the comparable Mac (at the upper end) costs about 60-70% more than the comparable homebuilt PC, which uses better components. (Frankly, this much of a differential surprises me. Wow!)

It doesn’t surprise me there’s a difference, but looking around I reckoned it would be about 30%. That big a difference is amazing. Thanks for showing this – people can argue about PC v. Mac forever, but as far as I’m concerned, they#’re all just tools and you use whatever you happen to need and, for most people, that’s a PCV simply because of the TCO.

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