File Browser PDF presentation

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Lawrence_Hudetz
Jul 1, 2004
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Look, this is not a spurious problem. I opened a Topic "PDF Presentation Problem" with no answers. After doing a complete rename of my files in a specific folder, Starting with a name and a serial number, the Browser still organizises the files according to the original system! Originally, the first file is called "Front Entrance 1" The second was named "Bedroom". Now, Front Entrance 1 is Papworth 1, and the Bedroom shot is Papworth 10.

When I go to the PDF presentation, the list starts with Papworth 1, then Papworth 10, not Papworth 2.

This is obscene!

I am using CS on W2K. I did a reset prefs with no change in behavior.

PS: The Spell Check isn’t working.

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BobLevine
Jul 1, 2004
10 always follows 1 in file names. Right after that comes 100. If you want it to go 1-10 you’ll need to rename then 01, 02, etc.

Bob
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Lawrence_Hudetz
Jul 1, 2004
That’s right Bob, and is why the progress didn’t work the second time around! I came back to set that matter straight. The wierd part is that the same two images wound up in position 1 and 2 because the second image relabelled as image 10! That threw me off. Had another one appeared at position 2 labelled 10, the lightbulb would have gone off!
Da! (is there an emoticon for batting the side of one’s head?)

It still doesn’t explain why I cannot re-assemble them in a visual order under Custom and have the Browser accept that. There is no requirement under Help that shows alpha-numerical rules the assembly.

Thanks for reminding me.
RS
Robert_Shomler
Jul 2, 2004
How do you invoke the PDF presentation process? Do you start it in the file browser or from File -> Automate menu? It may be that sequence is only honored if pdf presentation is started within the browser.

I regularly create pdf slide shows with the image files put in the pdf in the same sequence I have arranged them in the browser. I do this within the browser: from the file browser menu — Automate -> PDF Presentation.

FWIW, the CS users guide (p315) says that the image file sequence can be reordered by selecting a file and dragging it to a new position in the source file list (list of files in the source window of the pdf presentation process).
LH
Lawrence_Hudetz
Jul 2, 2004
I started the same way, Robert. And yes, I know I can re sequence in the pdf window, but some of the titles are generic, and without visuals, I can’t reorder them.

I did a second slide show from a different file, and this time, as I re named the file, it re ordered itself properly. When I went back to the first show and introduced a 0 before the 1,2,3 etc, it also re ordered properly.

I have the first show in a separate, unflattened version, visually ordered. I am going to re try this again and see what gives. I am also going to pick images at random from still another folder and see what happens.

The Browser seems to be hell bent for leather to order things it’s way! What I want and was led to believe is the Browser is a super light table. No light table ever re-arranged a show on me.

I searched for "Custom" in Help, for the Browser, and came up empty.

The protocol requiring one to introduce a 0 (or more) before the integer is perplexing, and can be a problem. (How many zeros will you need?) Since this doesn’t come from number theory, I am at a loss to understand the logic, except perhaps it makes the programming easier (and the use harder).
RS
Robert_Shomler
Jul 4, 2004
OT but perhaps interesting; Re protocol requiring one to introduce leading 0s to ensure correct numeric sequencing is at least as old as punch card business machines that operated using fixed field sizes — number of card columns. There were special "leading zero suppression" schemes designed for punch card interpretation and printing so that a field on the card such as 00015, that designated 15 dollars, would print as $15 rather than $00015 as it had to be punched in the the card columns. You can find a modern evolution of this in word processor tab to left (usual) right or decimal point settings.

In variable width fields unless there’s a right-to-left type of attribute associated with the field sorting, conventional sequencing almost always works from left to right one digit or character at a time.

So for "How many zeros will you need?" — as many as maximum length "number" you will be using; for example, two leading zeros if your numbers will exceed 99 and not exceed 999.

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