Photoshop’s settings

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Motoi_Sakuraba
Nov 30, 2003
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I’ve been growing more and more annoyed at the fact that Photoshop (evidently) doesn’t save its settings properly. I began to notice this towards the tail end of my Photoshop 7 usage, and i was hoping it’d be fixed in Photoshop CS, but alas, it apparently wasn’t.

I’m referring to the fact that Photoshop totally erases its settings if it’s closed in ANY manner that’s less than satisfactory to it. You’d think that it might save its settings to an INI file or something (a relatively simple process, i assume), but i guess it doesn’t. If Photoshop is running when i log off or shut down or restart or whatever, the next time i run it, i have to go back and fix all of my settings again (scratch disks, brush icons, &c.). It’s a good thing i don’t use custom colour settings, because i’d probably have to set all those again as well.

This is an extremely annoying problem. Photoshop obviously isn’t the speediest program in the world, and (to be honest) i can’t be bothered to wait on my computer so i can very carefully and manually close Photoshop every single time something comes up. If i have to restart my computer after installing new software, or if i have to force-quit Photoshop for some reason, i have to go back and set all of my preferences again. Very annoying. And it could all be fixed by just saving the settings properly. :/

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Chris_Cox
Nov 30, 2003
It could all be fixed by learning how to quit applications instead of hitting the power switch.

Photoshop saves it’s settings quite normally – when you quit.
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Daryl_Pritchard
Nov 30, 2003
Motoi,

To a point, I agree with you. If one open’s Photoshop leaving their preferences intact and then shuts Photoshop down by anything less than a norml closure of the program, I’d expect the preferences to be left intact. In fact, they usually are from what I’ve seen, but not always, according to reports by others. I’ve been surprised by how often I’ve see the "reset your preferences" solution offered up, where it does in fact often correct the reported prolems, yet where that is something I don’t recall ever having to do in 8 years of using Photoshop. The only time I can recall using that solution is recently, when trying to resolve some problems I’ve seen in PS CS, yet a reset of preferences made no difference.

What I’d suggest doing as some sort of backup, if you frequently do just turn off your PC or abort Photshop, is copy your preferences file out to another drive area. Then, make up a simple BAT file that copies that file back to its normal location and either leave the BAT file on your desktop or make a shortcut to it. Then, anytime you do something that would close Photoshop abnormallly, click on the BAT file to manually restore your preferences before starting up Photoshop.

Regards,

Daryl
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dave_milbut
Nov 30, 2003
or just use file> exit. 🙂
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Motoi_Sakuraba
Nov 30, 2003
Hrm. I don’t just ‘hit the power switch’. When i want to log off or restart my computer, the proper way, through the Start menu, Photoshop evidently expects me to first go and manually close the program. It doesn’t take forever, but it’s still a huge annoyance, especially when i have some random image in there (like some blank image that i just opened up and didn’t close), and then i have to bother with affirming or dismissing its ‘Are you sure you want to…’ messages.

Why can’t it just save the settings to an INI, like it’s supposed to? When Explorer crashes/gets forced-quit, it brings up the last saved settings. When Opera crashes/gets forced-quit/gets shut down by Windows on log-out, it brings up the last saved settings. When mIRC crashes/gets forced-quit/gets shut down by Windows on log-out, it brings up the last saved settings. Two of those programs are free. Photoshop is an expensive piece of software that lacks that feature.

🙁
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Colin_Walls
Nov 30, 2003
Sorry, this doesn’t make any sense. A Windows program terminates the same way whether it decides to terminate or gets a message to shut down [from Task Manager or Windows shut-down]. It doesn’t "know" where the termination request is coming from, so it has no chance to act differently.

Now, in my experience, PS may be sluggish to start, but shuts down quite promptly.

I have, however, some experience of it "forgetting" its settings [like palette locations], but I can’t pin down th ecause.
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dave_milbut
Nov 30, 2003
It doesn’t "know" where the termination request is coming from, so it has no chance to act differently.

actually, it does know where and how that request is generated. the only time it doesn’t is power off or "end task now". that’s not cool because it doesn’t give the program (ps or otherwise) to go throuh it’s clean ups. some (less complex) programs don’t have a problem with this. others (like ps) have things to do before going bye bye. like finalizing prefrence changes and cleaning up the scratch file and clearing/releasing huge gobs of memory, etc.

Bottom line is ALWAYS exit photoshop before shutting down.

I have, however, some experience of it "forgetting" its settings [like palette locations], but I can’t pin down th ecause.

ususlly happens when you open ps sessions in different screen resolutions ie. one time in 1024×768, next time in 1280×1024, back to 1024×768 and the palettes default. thank bob for workspaces!
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dennis_johnson
Nov 30, 2003
The solution is obvious – close the dang app before you restart. It is foolish to restart a machine intentionally with apps running, in my opinion. You risk corrupting your data – or worse.

If it makes things any easier for you, use keyboard shortcuts.

CTRL-Q closes the app.

If you have a document open, CTRL-Q will present you with the "save changes" dialog. Assuming you don’t want to save your changes, simply type the letter "n", and the app shuts down.

Easy-peasy.
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matt_betea
Nov 30, 2003
Is this post a joke? Please say it is. You wouldn’t just go and hit the power switch to shut your computer down without going through the proper procedure that it NEEDS to shut down would you? So why would you expect an application to function any different?

I know it’s such a hardship to hit [CTRL+Q] or make a couple clicks, but try it. You’ll be quite surprised how the application acts when it’s handled the proper way.
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deaton
Dec 1, 2003
Yeah Matt, I kinda wondered about this thread also. Until recently the only preference resetting that needed doing was on the Macs, and that was fairly often. Lately I have seen less of a problem there, but more of a problem on the PCs, but I think it’s more a matter of computer configuration than anything else, not to mention operator problem!
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dave_milbut
Dec 1, 2003
PEBKAC problems. happens all the time!
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Scott_Byer
Dec 2, 2003
So, saving preferences properly when shutting down under Photoshop CS was specifically tested. It was broken in many of the beta versions of the software, but is working in the final release.

If you are running a real, uncracked final version, then I’m interested in hearing more about your setup – have you checked your disks recently?

-Scott
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dave_milbut
Dec 3, 2003
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ELMER_DUDIK
Dec 14, 2003
Having just upgraded to Photoshop CS on a MAC I’m also having trouble saving preferences/settings. When I exit PS-CS properly an alert pops up saying "Could not save preferences because the file is already in use or was left open." All my preference settings made in a particular session are then gone for the next. I don’t have this problem in PS 7. Does anyone have an idea what’s going on or what I need to do to take care of this?
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Phosphor
Dec 14, 2003
I can’t remember ever having to trash and reset my Photoshop preferences on any Mac I’ve ever worked on.

Just lucky, I guess.
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Scott_Byer
Dec 15, 2003
Make sure you have write permissions and ownership of the correct folders (\Documents and Settings\<USER>\Application Data\Adobe\Photoshop\…). You may also want to set the disk up for an integrity check and reboot (get the drive Properties, go to the Tools Page, click Check Now, and select Automatically Fix).

-Scott
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William Kazak
Dec 21, 2003
It should not be a huge annoyance to close Photoshop and then shut off your computer in the normal way! GET REAL!
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alan_watts
Dec 26, 2003
I’m having the problem of PS 7 never saving my settings from the last time. For example if I had drawn a line using 3 px, the next time I open PS the "default" 1 px setting is back. And I do exit the program normally. I have just upgraded to this version after using 5.5 for a long time. I’m also on a new computer.
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Mike_Marketello
Dec 27, 2003
I know what this person is saying, there are times when I might have Word open, my browser, PS, and maybe something else. All of a sudden you have to head out the door, instead of shutting down every application one by one, you just click on the start button and click "shut down", and let windows close all the open programs for you. I do this sometimes never get any negative effects or messages.
I don’t think the user is hitting the power button, but rather they are in a hurry to get out the door. I do this sometimes, but I rarely change my PS prefs, so it doesn’t effect me in the least, and saves a minute here and there.

I see the point, and wonder if this wouldn’t be something Adobe couldn’t do without much effort, kind of along the lines of being able to retrieve a PS temp file after a crash….boy what a lifesaver that would be!
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matt_betea
Dec 27, 2003
If that’s the case, it would almost seem more of an OS issue than a specific app. If you just went to start/shutdown, I would think it would be the OS’s job to give any applications the proper tag or whatever to shutdown as if someone were to do it normally.

I don’t know though, I still stick by my previous statement about shutting down things properly. If it’s too much of a burden even "sometimes" I would suggest it’s time for a computer upgrade or better time management skills, but that’s just me.

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