Book Recommendations for CS/CS2

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Aug 9, 2005
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I’ve been using PS Elements for a couple of years, off and on, and am just starting with CS (maybe upgrading to CS2, but that’s another post). I’m particularly interested in applications to photography, and especially enhancing / restoring scans of old family photos. So I’m looking for a book to help me up the imposing learning curve, hopefully by focusing on my target application. The following looked interesting on the local bookshelves. Any comments? Further recommendations? Any suggestions for a general Photoshop book?

Adobe Photoshop CS2: Photographer’s Guide, David D. Busch.

The Photoshop CS2 book for digital photographers, Scott Kelby

Adobe Photoshop CS2 for Photographers, Martin Evening

For what it’s worth, the Evening looked most appealing, then the Kelby.

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noone
Aug 9, 2005
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I’ve been using PS Elements for a couple of years, off and on, and am just starting with CS (maybe upgrading to CS2, but that’s another post). I’m particularly interested in applications to photography, and especially enhancing / restoring scans of old family photos. So I’m looking for a book to help me up the imposing learning curve, hopefully by focusing on my target application. The following looked interesting on the local bookshelves. Any comments? Further recommendations? Any suggestions for a general Photoshop book?

Adobe Photoshop CS2: Photographer’s Guide, David D. Busch.
The Photoshop CS2 book for digital photographers, Scott Kelby
Adobe Photoshop CS2 for Photographers, Martin Evening

For what it’s worth, the Evening looked most appealing, then the Kelby.

On a rec. in this group, I got Kelby, and found a half-dozen great things right off the bat.

I’d add Ben Wilmore’s Studio Techniques for Photoshop __, Adobe Press. If you get CS2, then you might wait until he’s updated CS, which might be by now. I was surprised at how much new material, he’s included in each update version.

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Bill Hilton
Aug 9, 2005
I’m particularly interested in applications to photography

"Photoshop Artistry" by Haynes & Crumpler is very good for photographers. The Evening book you mention is also good but I think it’s oriented more towards studio photographers than "Artistry", but one of those two would be a good fit. http://www.maxart.com/ for the Artistry support web site.

especially enhancing / restoring scans of old family photos.

By a wide margin the best book I’ve seen for this is Katrin Eismann’s "Photoshop Restoration & Retouching", http://www.digitalretouch.org/ …. unfortunately she omits a lot of really important basic stuff on things like color management (which you really need to know) so it’s not as useful overall as the Evening or Haynes books (IMHO), but she covers restoration and retouching extremely well and it’s the perfect complementary book to one of the other two, I feel.

Bill
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ggull
Aug 10, 2005
Thanks to Bill and Hunt for the suggestions.
"Bill Hilton" wrote
especially enhancing / restoring scans of old family photos.

By a wide margin the best book I’ve seen for this is Katrin Eismann’s "Photoshop Restoration & Retouching", http://www.digitalretouch.org/ … unfortunately she omits a lot of really important basic stuff on things like color management (which you really need to know) so it’s not as useful overall as the Evening or Haynes books (IMHO), but she covers restoration and retouching extremely well and it’s the perfect complementary book to one of the other two, I feel.

I’ve heard of the Eismann book before. Thanks for pointing me to her website. I’ll peruse the sample chapter and the CS update chapter available for download — next best thing to thumbing through it at the bookstore — and will probably break down and order it.
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ggull
Aug 10, 2005
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By a wide margin the best book I’ve seen for this is Katrin Eismann’s "Photoshop Restoration & Retouching", http://www.digitalretouch.org/

I’ve heard of the Eismann book before. Thanks for pointing me to her website. I’ll peruse the sample chapter and the CS update chapter available for download —

I just noticed on Amazon that there is a 3rd edition due out in October. Oddly enough, this time it’s called "*Adobe* Photoshop…" instead of just "Photoshop…"
Different co-author than the 2nd ed, also.
They don’t give any further info, so no idea if goes any further than just having the CS update chapter, but I figure I’ll wait until that comes out. I’ve got plenty to learn about PS in the meanwhile :-).
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buckeroo
Aug 11, 2005
gull wrote:
"ggull" wrote in
"Bill Hilton" wrote
By a wide margin the best book I’ve seen for this is Katrin Eismann’s "Photoshop Restoration & Retouching", http://www.digitalretouch.org/

I’ve heard of the Eismann book before. Thanks for pointing me to her website. I’ll peruse the sample chapter and the CS update chapter available for download —

I just noticed on Amazon that there is a 3rd edition due out in October. Oddly enough, this time it’s called "*Adobe* Photoshop…" instead of just "Photoshop…"
Different co-author than the 2nd ed, also.
They don’t give any further info, so no idea if goes any further than just having the CS update chapter, but I figure I’ll wait until that comes out. I’ve got plenty to learn about PS in the meanwhile :-).

I find Photocopy Restoration & Retouching 2nd edition much better than her Masking book. The Masking book tends to be choppy in coverage, some areas are done well but some so so. These authors tend to rush to print so they can put the newest PS revision in their title. The revised editions tend to be much better, probably after they have digested the new features in PS. Check how many more pages are added in Restoration’s 3rd edition and you will see what I mean.
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ggull
Aug 11, 2005
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Katrin Eismann’s "Photoshop Restoration & Retouching", http://www.digitalretouch.org/
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I just noticed on Amazon that there is a 3rd edition due out in October. Oddly enough, this time it’s called "*Adobe* Photoshop…" instead of just
"Photoshop…"
Different co-author than the 2nd ed, also.

I find Photocopy Restoration & Retouching 2nd edition much better than her Masking book. The Masking book tends to be choppy in coverage, some areas are done well but some so so.
? Is this a general comment, or responding to something I said? just confused here.
I think the Masking book is too focussed for my purposes.

These authors tend to rush to print
so they can put the newest PS revision in their title. The revised editions tend to be much better, probably after they have digested the new features in PS. Check how many more pages are added in Restoration’s 3rd edition and you will see what I mean.

If you check the website, there’s a whole new chapter 11 giving new or changed features (relevant to the book) in PS CS. This is presented as an addendum to "PS Restoration and Retouching" 2nd ed. No mention of 3rd ed is on the website.

What’s not clear is if 3rd will just be 2nd with the extra chapter bound in (still worth waiting for unless I find a cutout of 2nd ed) or whether it’s edited throughout to incorporate PS CS
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Bill Hilton
Aug 11, 2005
ggull wrote …

What’s not clear is if 3rd will just be 2nd with the extra chapter bound in or whether it’s edited throughout to incorporate PS CS

I’m pretty sure the original book was written when V 7 was out. When CS came out she had some extra download stuff on new features like the healing brush, and then the 2nd edition was for CS, with some other new material added (2nd edition is about 90 pages longer than the first). So it seems reasonable that the 3rd edition will have new stuff on CS2 plus whatever else she’s added. The principles are the same from edition to edition, it’s just that new editions seem to add a few things to take advantage of the latest version of Photoshop.

Anyway if you have CS then the 2nd edition will be perfect for your needs.

Bill
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Hecate
Aug 11, 2005
On 11 Aug 2005 11:16:13 -0700, "Bill Hilton"
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ggull wrote …

What’s not clear is if 3rd will just be 2nd with the extra chapter bound in or whether it’s edited throughout to incorporate PS CS

I’m pretty sure the original book was written when V 7 was out. When CS came out she had some extra download stuff on new features like the healing brush, and then the 2nd edition was for CS, with some other new material added (2nd edition is about 90 pages longer than the first). So it seems reasonable that the 3rd edition will have new stuff on CS2 plus whatever else she’s added. The principles are the same from edition to edition, it’s just that new editions seem to add a few things to take advantage of the latest version of Photoshop.
Anyway if you have CS then the 2nd edition will be perfect for your needs.
Yes, the core of the book (with the exception of new tools) doesn’t change. You’ll notice that the title does not include a version number for that reason.



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buckeroo
Aug 12, 2005
ggull wrote:
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gull wrote:
Katrin Eismann’s "Photoshop Restoration & Retouching", http://www.digitalretouch.org/

I just noticed on Amazon that there is a 3rd edition due out in October. Oddly enough, this time it’s called "*Adobe* Photoshop…" instead of just
"Photoshop…"
Different co-author than the 2nd ed, also.

I find Photocopy Restoration & Retouching 2nd edition much better than her Masking book. The Masking book tends to be choppy in coverage, some areas are done well but some so so.
? Is this a general comment, or responding to something I said? just confused here.
I think the Masking book is too focussed for my purposes.

Just personal opinion, and not responding to what you said. Some chapters of the Masking book start from the very basic and progress into more complex tutorials. Some assume the readers have an intermediate background, and skip the basic. I also find the Masking book spends more pages on blending different images into one than on working on a single photo realistic image.

These authors tend to rush to print
so they can put the newest PS revision in their title. The revised editions tend to be much better, probably after they have digested the new features in PS. Check how many more pages are added in Restoration’s 3rd edition and you will see what I mean.

If you check the website, there’s a whole new chapter 11 giving new or changed features (relevant to the book) in PS CS. This is presented as an addendum to "PS Restoration and Retouching" 2nd ed. No mention of 3rd ed is on the website.

My criticism is directed more at other authors, and not specifically at Eismann. Eismann not only added a Ch 11 for free as you mentioned, but she also posted errata sheets for her books. Not too many other authors will do either of that.

What’s not clear is if 3rd will just be 2nd with the extra chapter bound in (still worth waiting for unless I find a cutout of 2nd ed) or whether it’s edited throughout to incorporate PS CS

Bill answered this very well.

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