3d/stereo photograph from old photograph ?

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Tue, 18 October 2005 02:43 Go to next message
frankesposito (Photoshop begginer)
if this is the wrong place to ask, i'm sorry. I figured i would start
with PS.

Has anyone seen TV commercials or documentaries that show old
photographs that have a 3D effect?

almost like someone separated the foreground and the background to
different layers and "shadowed it."

anyone know how this was done? plug-in? technique? other application?

or how to make 3D from 2D pics without the glasses?


just curious.
Tue, 18 October 2005 06:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kingdom (Photoshop expert)
frankesposito@gmail.com wrote in news:1129617816.730512.235250
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> if this is the wrong place to ask, i'm sorry. I figured i would start
> with PS.
>
> Has anyone seen TV commercials or documentaries that show old
> photographs that have a 3D effect?
>
> almost like someone separated the foreground and the background to
> different layers and "shadowed it."
>
> anyone know how this was done? plug-in? technique? other application?
>
> or how to make 3D from 2D pics without the glasses?
>
>
> just curious.
>
>

You cant make 3d images from one image without without using some form
of glasses unless you make a sterogram! On tv more than likly it's a
modren 'real stereo image' (two or more images) then aged to make it
look like an old fashioned photograph.

Now 3d effect that's possible just using shading and shadows but do you
have an example (URL) of the type of image your aiming for.

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Tue, 18 October 2005 10:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
edjh (Photoshop expert)
Kingdom wrote:
> frankesposito@gmail.com wrote in news:1129617816.730512.235250
> @g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>>if this is the wrong place to ask, i'm sorry. I figured i would start
>>with PS.
>>
>>Has anyone seen TV commercials or documentaries that show old
>>photographs that have a 3D effect?
>>
>>almost like someone separated the foreground and the background to
>>different layers and "shadowed it."
>>
>>anyone know how this was done? plug-in? technique? other application?
>>
>>or how to make 3D from 2D pics without the glasses?
>>
>>
>>just curious.
>>
>>
>
>
> You cant make 3d images from one image without without using some form
> of glasses unless you make a sterogram! On tv more than likly it's a
> modren 'real stereo image' (two or more images) then aged to make it
> look like an old fashioned photograph.
>
>
Or an old stereogram. These used to be wildly popular.

Check out a program called OpticBOOM. You still need left and right
images though.

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Tue, 18 October 2005 15:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Lorem Ipsum (Photoshop expert)
<frankesposito@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> if this is the wrong place to ask, i'm sorry. I figured i would start
> with PS.
>
> Has anyone seen TV commercials or documentaries that show old
> photographs that have a 3D effect?

I know what you mean - create an illusion as if it were a 3D image, of
sorts.
See this image. Forgive, but it's the only thing I have on-hand.
http://elearning.winona.edu/staff_o/jjs/test.jpg

That is a perfectly flat picture. It was done thus:

Using the Polygonal Lasso Tool (main pallet)
Select out the image.
Copy it to a new layer.
Edit - Transform - Scale the new layer to bring it forward a bit.
Double-click on the new layer and give it a deep shadow.
That's all there is to it!

(The editorial point of this image was to show the land owned university
pictured in color.)

So you might try the same, pasting different parts to new layers, varying
the shadows depth and angle to kinda-sorta-look 3D. If you post an image, I
can whip out a visual example of what I mean.
Tue, 18 October 2005 20:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gtg582q (Photoshop begginer)
frankesposito@gmail.com wrote:
> if this is the wrong place to ask, i'm sorry. I figured i would start
> with PS.
>
> Has anyone seen TV commercials or documentaries that show old
> photographs that have a 3D effect?
>
> almost like someone separated the foreground and the background to
> different layers and "shadowed it."
>
> anyone know how this was done? plug-in? technique? other application?
>
> or how to make 3D from 2D pics without the glasses?
>
>
> just curious.
>
Are you talking about if you watch on the History channel, they do a
cool effect where it seems the foreground of the picture seems to be
moving and not the background or vice versa. Where they take a real
image (older photograph) and some how make it "come alive" in the way
the camera moves.

Jake
Tue, 18 October 2005 20:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
frankesposito (Photoshop begginer)
no url yet, i cant find it. im not even sure what to Google?

i thought it was the modern way of using two pictures, but then i saw a
documentary on the history channel and all the old pics of Hitler were
done that way. so, someone is converting it.
Tue, 18 October 2005 20:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
frankesposito (Photoshop begginer)
YES! that is where i saw it. that is what i am talking about!!

you think it is a plug-in of some sort?
or what Lorem talked about in the previous message with the lasso tool
and layer and shadow?

or is there something that will work it, kind of like realviz panorama.
Tue, 18 October 2005 22:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nicholas Sherlock (Photoshop expert)
frankesposito@gmail.com wrote:
> YES! that is where i saw it. that is what i am talking about!!
>
> you think it is a plug-in of some sort?

You'd only see the effect with an animation, so Photoshop is not the
tool to use.

Cheers,
Nicholas Sherlock
Wed, 19 October 2005 06:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kingdom (Photoshop expert)
frankesposito@gmail.com wrote in news:1129682209.606818.140410
@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

> no url yet, i cant find it. im not even sure what to Google?
>
> i thought it was the modern way of using two pictures, but then i saw a
> documentary on the history channel and all the old pics of Hitler were
> done that way. so, someone is converting it.
>
>

Can't seem to even imagine what effect we are talking about here but I'd be
interested to see one and have a go. If they are using pics of Hitler I
recon it's an effect rather than true 3d.

Let us know if you find one.

It's not a cut out is it? Where they cut say Hitler out of an image then
place him 3 inches in front of a different image of say the Eiffel tower
and move the camera, giving a kinda seudo 3d effect.

--
Art, like morality, consists in drawing the line somewhere.
Wed, 19 October 2005 11:33 Go to previous message
Lorem Ipsum (Photoshop expert)
<frankesposito@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> YES! that is where i saw it. that is what i am talking about!!

In motion picture work it was called a Traveling Matte. In Photoshop terms
it is a mask, or a new layer with transparency. In either case you still
have to isolate the element you want to move forward. No such plug-in that I
know of. A little exploration of the photoshop tools is in order.
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