New Window Option with Photoshop CS

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Darren_McNeill
Jul 20, 2004
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I asked this question quite a while back and never received an answer so I’m posting again.

Hi,

I do a lot of icon creation using Photoshop, now CS. I have the plugin to add the ico format to the Save as list (Still not sure why Photoshop does not have this feature as standard).

Up to version 7 I was able to create a new document say 400 x 400 pixels and create my icon design. I could also create a New Window of the same file and reduce it to the required 32 x 32 etc and watch the design update as I edit and see how it looks in the finished size automatically, without having to reduce the original file each time.

CS cannot do this. If I reduce the New Window Size, the Original also reduces. All I can do is Zoom into one window, but not show two different image sizes as was possible with version 7.

Is there a way around this, why was this feature removed?

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Daryl_Pritchard
Jul 20, 2004
Hi Darren,

It sounds as though you’re confusing the image size in actual pixels (what I’ll call "data pixels") with the number of screen pixels to display the full image at different magnifications.

If you open an image and then create a New Window for another instance, both the original window and the new window may be zoomed in/out independent of one another. So, for example, an image that is 400×400 data pixels viewed at 100% will use 400×400 sreen pixels, but the same image viewed at 25% will only require 100×100 screen pixels. However, if you resize that image to 100×100 pixels, then you have physically manipulated the file’s data content and both windows will reflect that change.

Hope that helps,

Daryl
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marll
Jul 20, 2004
It has not been removed, it is just in a different place now.

Simply go to Window -> Arrange and at the bottom of the menu you will see the command at the bottom of that drop down menu

hth

marT
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Darren_McNeill
Jul 20, 2004
Hi

Thanks for the quick responses. I understand what you have said and indeed this does happen, but if you still have a copy of 7 running, you would notice the following,

Creating the image at say 400 x 400 and then creating a New Window, it will open also at 400 X 400. What I could do was then take one of those open "instances" and go to Image/size, and change it to 100 x 100. the other instance though would remain at 400 X 400, and when I work on it I can watch the 100 x 100 image update also at the finished size. In reality the smaller windows would be 32 x 32 etc..

Its a small issue I know, but it was a great function to see an icon as it would be saved, being generated from its larger version.

What I get now is a Zoomed version rather than the actual resized and saving it to 32 x 32 sizeoften rsults in an image not what I expected.

Thanks again though.

Again, its not critical but was very much time saving.
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norm
Jul 20, 2004
Daren, this may be way off, but why don’t you start with the 32 x 32 size and then make a New Window of that. Leave the original at the small size and enlarge the new window to a large percentage, like 1600 or so and then draw or make your icon at the pixel level. You can then see the changes being made in the smaller window. Really don’t know if this is what you need or not or if it has been suggested already. I haven’t read anything here that is similar unless it was Daryl’s suggestion.

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Hi

Thanks for the quick responses. I understand what you have said and indeed
this does happen, but if you still have a copy of 7 running, you would notice the following,
Creating the image at say 400 x 400 and then creating a New Window, it
will open also at 400 X 400. What I could do was then take one of those open "instances" and go to Image/size, and change it to 100 x 100. the other instance though would remain at 400 X 400, and when I work on it I can watch the 100 x 100 image update also at the finished size. In reality the smaller windows would be 32 x 32 etc..
Its a small issue I know, but it was a great function to see an icon as it
would be saved, being generated from its larger version.
What I get now is a Zoomed version rather than the actual resized and
saving it to 32 x 32 sizeoften rsults in an image not what I expected.
Thanks again though.

Again, its not critical but was very much time saving.
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Daryl_Pritchard
Jul 20, 2004
Hi Darren,

That sounds odd to me that you’d have the behavior you report wiht PS7. I’ve compared both PS7 and PSCS and see identical behavior….when I create a new 400×400 px image, then a new window, then resize the image to 100×100 px, both image windows maintain whatever scaling was previously active and the image is displayed at a reduced size. I thought I vaguely recalled a menu item to open a duplicate image (physically separate copy of the original), but couldn’t find one. But, a truly duplicate file would not reflect changes made to another.

Even if we are observing different things for some odd reason, I’ll just emphasize that when you resize the image, both image windows will be presenting an image with the same pixel dimensions. At best, one is simply a different display scaling from the other. If you enable the rulers on each window, you’ll see that both images measure out the same. The only way to have a physically different-sized image between two views is to actually have two separate image files open.

Are we truly seeing different results?

Daryl

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