Hows this Dan Burkholder effect done?

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Nov 13, 2006
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Steve Pretti
Nov 13, 2006
HDR

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<http://www.danburkholder.com/shadows/>
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Joe_Zydeco
Nov 13, 2006
Nobody has ever accused me of being artistic, so more talented eyes may give you a better answer than this. Try Filter>Filter Gallery and step through some of the effects, especially the Artistic, Brush Strokes, and Texture groups. Even more choices are available directly from the Filter menu. You would likely have to use some combination of effects to come close to the photos you referenced.
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deebs
Nov 13, 2006
This comment is not really related to technique but… the images made me wonder what kind of nation would wish to impose poverty upon its own people?

Are the images from Northern Korea?
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EDM_spamblock_
Nov 13, 2006
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This comment is not really related to technique but… the images made me wonder what kind of nation would wish to impose poverty
upon its own people?

What kind of nation? You mean what kind of government.

Bush and Congress were busy giving a half trillion dollars to a country that sits on the world’s second largest oil reserves. They have a proud contempt for America’s own poor and
disabled.
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Joe_Zydeco
Nov 13, 2006
Agreed, deebs. It seems Chekhov was quite the doom-and-gloom sort. Another quote from him is: "How unbearable at times are people who are happy, people for whom everything works out." Wikipedia provides a possible clue to the root cause by quoting James Wood as saying Chekhov’s father was "a keen flogger of his children."

North Korea? Nope. New Orleans, post-Katrina.

Photoshop. There, now I’m on topic!
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Phosphor
Nov 13, 2006
According to the photographer’s front page he combines HDR (high dynamic range) images to create that look.

Suffice it to say that it is a series of techniques that he has developed, and short of asking him directly, you’d likely have to just experiment on your own to come up with something similar.

I agree, they do have a striking look to them.
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Chris_Cox
Nov 13, 2006
They’re just overprocessed in PhotoMatix.

You could do the same damage by mis-using Shadow&HIghlight.
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chrisjbirchall
Nov 13, 2006
That’s art Chris.

You’ve been spending too much time shuffling zeros and ones 😉
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Wayne
Nov 13, 2006
First reaction ~Agree: New Orleans, post-Katrina

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Agreed, deebs. It seems Chekhov was quite the doom-and-gloom sort. Another quote from him is: "How unbearable at times are people who are happy, people for whom everything works out." Wikipedia provides a possible clue to the root cause by quoting James Wood as saying Chekhov’s father was "a keen flogger of his children."

North Korea? Nope. New Orleans, post-Katrina.

Photoshop. There, now I’m on topic!
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Chris_Cox
Nov 13, 2006
Yeah – you know it’s bad when I walk into the grocery store, see their new graphics and say: "craqulure filter on a blurred background image, Helvetica Nue, stroke style, drop shadow, and they used too low a res for printing that bannar."
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chrisjbirchall
Nov 13, 2006
🙂
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glen_deman
Nov 13, 2006
Louzy bannars 😀
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Ho
Nov 14, 2006
Ok, so I’m no Burkholder&#8212;I’m barely a placeholder, but with some layer blends and some dodging and burning I can sort of approximate the effect, even when starting with a flat, uninteresting image. Working with an HDR image (shot with the widest lens available) would be a real advantage if you want to try to duplicate his methods.

< http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=14rT22pJaBLDkRs7Uo hkmGFTkPDtc>
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Talker
Nov 14, 2006
On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:10:06 -0800,
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<http://www.danburkholder.com/shadows/>

It’s hard to say exactly how those images were made. I have hundreds of filters and special effects, and no one filter or effect created that.
It is possible that it was created on an Amiga computer, using specialized software. I had some pictures reworked by Maver who had such a setup, and what he turned out was fantastic. Those pictures on Dan Burkholder’s site have that same unique quality to them, so maybe that’s what was used to get that effect.

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Mathias_Vejerslev
Nov 14, 2006
Those images are made with Photomatix HDR software – and it shows!
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Wayne
Nov 14, 2006
Beautiful work! 🙂

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ETBass
Nov 15, 2006
These are images of POVERTY? GO hug a tree you looney left fool!

On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 12:59:07 -0800, mumbled:

This comment is not really related to technique but… the images made me wonder what kind of nation would wish to impose poverty upon its own people?

Are the images from Northern Korea?
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Philip_Peterson
Nov 16, 2006
Any opinions on this program (photomatrix)?

I’ve never really been satisfied with photoshop hdr (doubtless due to my own incompetence) and wouldn’t mind an alternative.
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Mathias_Vejerslev
Nov 16, 2006
Any opinions on this program

Must be used with extreme care. Prone to create ‘artifacts’ due to the gaussian method employed (such as ‘shadows’ appearing where no shadow is and severe halos). Funky colors. Can flatten your image entirely as in these images.

My opinion is that Photoshops Merge to HDR is higher quality and more serious. Photomatix is a popular toy, and a second option.

Check flickrs HDR pool for tonnes of tasteless examples using photomatix.
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Philip_Peterson
Nov 16, 2006
Thanks Math, I agree with your tool view.

Perhaps just my ill-skill has not lead me to be happy with the within photoshop hdr.
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Philip_Peterson
Nov 16, 2006
Thanks for the help Jedi master; I’ll see if I can use the links you sent to forge a chain of HDR invulnerability!

I found these two points interesting and useful. I had noted the 2nd part, but the first one makes it a bit quicker to try for me.

1) Merge to HDR and Camera RAW have a secret handshake where M2HDR tells Camera Raw to always zero out the exposure-related parameters (Exposure, Shadows, Brightness, Contrast) and guarantee linear output.

2) "The alignment feature doesn’t usually work so great" — Fair enough, and we have some good ideas on how to improve it.
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a_smithee
Nov 16, 2006
Dan Burkholder himself writes on his home page "The painterly look to this new work is the result of combining multiple exposures using HDR (High Dynamic Range) techniques.
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Philip_Peterson
Nov 16, 2006
Secret techniques?
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Chris_Cox
Nov 16, 2006
Again, he’s just abusing the toning options in PhotoMatix .
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Mark_Reynolds
Nov 16, 2006
He’s just compositing different HDR achieved together, and color controlling it maybe- looks pretty effective though in my opinion
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Lawrence_Hudetz
Nov 17, 2006
I don’t think abuse is reasonable at all.

Monet "abused" painting and came up with impressionism. Stravinsky "abused" the ear can came up with "Le Sacre du printemps", and Ravel "abused" the entire audience with Bolero!

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