Cannot get same colors to printer from monitor

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Nov 24, 2006
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Hello. I hope someone can help me with this. I have been at it all day with no success. I have PS 7 and a canon inkjet printer. (S600). I can adjust the colors on the monitor just how I want them, but when I go to my printer, the colors turn out to be way off, and dark. My inks are full. Some prints come out good and others come out with the colors not matching at all. I don’t get it. I have researched book after book, the PS help, and any other thing I can think of to no avail. Just wasting time. Any help would be appreciated.

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YrbkMgr
Nov 25, 2006
This is a common issue that is reasonably easily solved through a basic understanding of color management.

See Ian Lyons’ site below. After about 15 minutes you should be up and running.

<http://www.computer-darkroom.com/ps7_colour/ps7_1.htm>
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Jim
Nov 25, 2006
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Hello. I hope someone can help me with this. I have been at it all day with no success. I have PS 7 and a canon inkjet printer. (S600). I can adjust the colors on the monitor just how I want them, but when I go to my printer, the colors turn out to be way off, and dark. My inks are full. Some prints come out good and others come out with the colors not matching at all. I don’t get it. I have researched book after book, the PS help, and any other thing I can think of to no avail. Just wasting time. Any help would be appreciated.

Another poster mentioned Ian Lyon’s site which is very good.

What you have going is a mismatch between the various profiles.

You need to create a profile for your monitor with the appropriate software and hardware package.

You need to create a profile for your printer with the appropriate software and hardware package. The best practice is to create a separate profile for each combination of inks and paper.

You need to settle on a consistent color gamut space for your working space. I use Adobe RGB because it has the widest gamut of any readily available color space.

When printing, you should select the printer profile in the "Print with Preview" tab.

You should also disable color management in your printer driver (else you will be applying the profile twice with very unpleasant results).

These steps individually aren’t difficult. However, getting good color is not an easy task.

Jim
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rk-studio
Nov 25, 2006
Thanks for the advise. I have been working on this for hours and it didn’t help a bit. I am grateful for the site you refered, but the explainations ran a little short at the end. In fact, I somehow messed up something in the color color settings dialog box. I can’t even figure out how to fix it like it was before. In the part under working spaces, for the part that did read "Monitor RGB",Monitor RGB IEC61966-2.1. My soft proof profile was supposed to be saved in the Working Spaces area of the Color Settings, but it didn’t. It’s now a worse mess that before. I did everything word for word, but it didn’t change anything as far as the printer printing what’s on the monitor. I make small artwork…about as small as a baseball card. They’re called ACEO’s. I scan them on my Canon S600 flatbed, then usually do simple color corrections in PS. But today has been a nightmare for that. I have a picture of 3 yellow trees and green grass. The yellow trees turned out reddish orange and the yellow is barely showing up. I printed this picture about 15 times, and still don’t have it close to where I need it. Maybe it’s something about the colors I used in the painting. I wonder if they can be printed. I’m trying to think of everything. All my ink tanks are full, and most other pictures turn out ok. Maybe it’s just me but color management seems rediculously complicated. I don’t know but thanks for the help….Bob
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YrbkMgr
Nov 25, 2006
The most critical aspect to begin is the monitor calibration. Did you run adobe gamma?

Maybe it’s just me but color management seems rediculously complicated.

You are not alone. It’s not an easy subject to get your arms around when there are so many terms and interpretations. Ian does the best job I’ve ever seen and has helped countless folk (whic is why I recommened it).

But the first thing to do is to start with a monitor calibration and that site details Adobe Gamma for just about anyone.
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Tim_Lookingbill
Nov 25, 2006
CM complicated?

Nasa engineers are complaining, so you’re in good company.
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rk-studio
Nov 25, 2006
Yes I did run adobe gamma. In fact I ran it before I read Ian’s article. But I ran it again anyway because it still didn’t change anything. (as far as the end result goes anyway). It must be somewhere in the communication of between the printer and something. Some pictures come out perfect with hardly any tweaking at all, and others seem like they’ll never work out. Especially when it involves red and yellow somewhat mixed together. The red over powers the yellow tremendously. With some of them it’s just hit and miss I guess. But it’s costing me all my ink and paper
Thanks for the advise.
Also, for the comment about the Nasa guys. Is that for real? I’ll keep working on it and let you know if something works out. Thanks again, Bob
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rk-studio
Nov 25, 2006
BTW, I did like the article. I gave me a better understanding of CM. I’m not trying to dis it or anything.
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Talker
Nov 27, 2006
On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 08:19:03 -0800, wrote:

Yes I did run adobe gamma. In fact I ran it before I read Ian’s article. But I ran it again anyway because it still didn’t change anything. (as far as the end result goes anyway). It must be somewhere in the communication of between the printer and something. Some pictures come out perfect with hardly any tweaking at all, and others seem like they’ll never work out. Especially when it involves red and yellow somewhat mixed together. The red over powers the yellow tremendously. With some of them it’s just hit and miss I guess. But it’s costing me all my ink and paper
Thanks for the advise.
Also, for the comment about the Nasa guys. Is that for real? I’ll keep working on it and let you know if something works out. Thanks again, Bob

Hi Bob. First, do a printer test. You printer should have a print test page function, so try that. It is possible that one of the ink cartridges is filled with the wrong ink.
I had that happen to me once with an HP cartridge. I was printing numerous copies of the same picture when one of my cartridges ran out. I installed a new one, and began the printing again. The first print looked terrible, so I checked my settings and printed another copy with the same result.
I played around for a few minutes, but I couldn’t find anything wrong, so I printed a test copy to make sure all the nozzles were working. The test print looked okay at first, but then I realized that although all the nozzles were firing okay, they were supposed to be red….blue….yellow….black. What I got was
red….purple….yellow….black. Apparently the blue chamber of the cartridge became contaminated with red (most likely during the fill cycle at the factory), so that the two colors of red and blue made a purple shade. I replaced the cartridge and all was fine. Once you’ve determined that the cartridges are okay, the next thing is to calibrate your monitor, then calibrate your printer. As others have said, you can do a reasonable job calibrating your monitor using Adobe’s Gamma. You said that you did run Adobe Gamma, so if you did it correctly, then most likely your monitor is calibrated. The only other thing you can do to calibrate it is to use a colorimeter, like the Spyder 2. That will do a very nice job of calibrating it for you.
The next thing is to calibrate your printer. The easiest way I’ve found to do that is to have a profile made by a third party. I have used Cathy’s Profiles several times and have been very pleased with the results. She only charges $40 per profile, so it’s not that expensive, unless you need a lot of profiles. Her site is at http://www.cathysprofiles.com She’s not the only place that does this, so you can check around if you’d rather use someone else. It sounds to me like the printer profile is the problem, since you seem to have the monitor calibrated. If you do use Cathy’s Profiles, you can get an idea if it is the printer’s profiles, since you need to download her color targets, then print them out . You do this using her instructions, then send the printouts to her with your $40. The thing is, once you’ve downloaded the targets and printed them out, you can just compare the targets onscreen with the printouts, and you will see if there are any mismatches in the two. Downloading the targets is free, so you might try that to see what happens.
Anyway, good luck on correcting the problem, and when you do find out what it was, drop us a note here so we’ll know what it was.

Talker
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Heather Bell
Nov 27, 2006
Maybe it is a printer thing. Download new drivers, run nozel checks again, see if it is maybe spurting too much magenta, make a test, large blocks of CMYK pure from 100% in increments of 5% to 0%. See if you are getting too much of one color, etc.

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