PS memory

Vincent Fennell wrote:

I have 4 Gigs of RAM on a Windows XP Pro machine. PS 7.01 only sees 1.777 gigs. Why?

Thanks

since you can’t use it, you should take 2 gigs out and send them to me.

On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 00:08:40 GMT, "Vincent Fennell" wrote:

I have 4 Gigs of RAM on a Windows XP Pro machine. PS 7.01 only sees 1.777 gigs. Why?

Thanks

Because Photoshop has a 2Gb barrier. There are two solutions to this:

1. Make a RAM disk and use that as the primary PS scratch disk. The best solution because then you’ll take advantage of the RAM speed against hard disk speed.

2. Ignore it and be thankful that you can run lots of other software at the same time as PS. 😉

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Hecate

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Hecate wrote:

Because Photoshop has a 2Gb barrier. There are two solutions to this:
1. Make a RAM disk and use that as the primary PS scratch disk. The best solution because then you’ll take advantage of the RAM speed against hard disk speed.

How do you make a RAM disk?

Jerry
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Hecate wrote:

On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 00:08:40 GMT, "Vincent Fennell" wrote:

I have 4 Gigs of RAM on a Windows XP Pro machine. PS 7.01 only sees 1.777 gigs. Why?

Thanks

Because Photoshop has a 2Gb barrier. There are two solutions to this:
1. Make a RAM disk and use that as the primary PS scratch disk. The best solution because then you’ll take advantage of the RAM speed against hard disk speed.

2. Ignore it and be thankful that you can run lots of other software at the same time as PS. 😉

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Hecate

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On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 02:48:19 GMT, Jerry Cargile
wrote:

Hecate wrote:

Because Photoshop has a 2Gb barrier. There are two solutions to this:
1. Make a RAM disk and use that as the primary PS scratch disk. The best solution because then you’ll take advantage of the RAM speed against hard disk speed.

How do you make a RAM disk?

Funny, I knew you were going to ask that 😉

Rather than explaining everything I suggest you go here:

http://www.ramdisk.tk/

if you don’t like that then try here:

http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=1356

Both will allow you to create a RAM disk without having to delve too much into Windows internals.

There also solutions for Mac and Linux on the Net. Just google for RAM + disk + (Operating system of your choice).

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Hecate

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Thanks for the reply, unfortunately I am unable to use it because I am running Win. 98. However, I appreciate the information.

Jerry
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Hecate wrote:

On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 02:48:19 GMT, Jerry Cargile
wrote:

Hecate wrote:

Because Photoshop has a 2Gb barrier. There are two solutions to this:
1. Make a RAM disk and use that as the primary PS scratch disk. The best solution because then you’ll take advantage of the RAM speed against hard disk speed.

How do you make a RAM disk?

Funny, I knew you were going to ask that 😉

Rather than explaining everything I suggest you go here:
http://www.ramdisk.tk/

if you don’t like that then try here:

http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=1356

Both will allow you to create a RAM disk without having to delve too much into Windows internals.

There also solutions for Mac and Linux on the Net. Just google for RAM + disk + (Operating system of your choice).

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Hecate

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On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 14:52:41 GMT, Jerry Cargile
wrote:

Thanks for the reply, unfortunately I am unable to use it because I am running Win. 98. However, I appreciate the information.
Jerry
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With Windows 98 you can use the included ramdrive.sys, but you are limited to a 32 MB ramdisk.

You might try Umberto Ramdisk
http://www.simtel.net/product.php?url_fb_product_page=4825 I used to use it under MSDOS, but haven’t tried it under Windows.

Another one to try: http://ppsoft.dk/ramdisk_eng.htm

— Emil

On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 14:52:41 GMT, Jerry Cargile
wrote:

Thanks for the reply, unfortunately I am unable to use it because I am running Win. 98. However, I appreciate the information.

Using Photoshop seriously is a *very* good reason to get a, let’s say, more *adult* operating system 😉

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Hecate

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Thanks for the links, Emil.

Jerry
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Emil Mroz wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 14:52:41 GMT, Jerry Cargile
wrote:

Thanks for the reply, unfortunately I am unable to use it because I am running Win. 98. However, I appreciate the information.
Jerry
..

With Windows 98 you can use the included ramdrive.sys, but you are limited to a 32 MB ramdisk.

You might try Umberto Ramdisk
http://www.simtel.net/product.php?url_fb_product_page=4825 I used to use it under MSDOS, but haven’t tried it under Windows.
Another one to try: http://ppsoft.dk/ramdisk_eng.htm

— Emil

Hecate wrote:

Using Photoshop seriously is a *very* good reason to get a, let’s say, more *adult* operating system 😉

I would consider getting the adult version of XP, but my Win 98 is an upgrade from 95 and I’ve heard that you can’t upgrade XP from an upgrade and it can’t be upgraded from 95. So…that would mean that I’d have to buy the full version and I don’t want to shell out that much, at the present time.

Jerry
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Hecate wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 14:52:41 GMT, Jerry Cargile
wrote:

Thanks for the reply, unfortunately I am unable to use it because I am running Win. 98. However, I appreciate the information.

Using Photoshop seriously is a *very* good reason to get a, let’s say, more *adult* operating system 😉

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Hecate

veni, vidi, relinqui

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:05:41 GMT, Jerry Cargile
wrote:

Hecate wrote:

Using Photoshop seriously is a *very* good reason to get a, let’s say, more *adult* operating system 😉

I would consider getting the adult version of XP, but my Win 98 is an upgrade from 95 and I’ve heard that you can’t upgrade XP from an upgrade and it can’t be upgraded from 95. So…that would mean that I’d have to buy the full version and I don’t want to shell out that much, at the present time.

I realise that a lot of people are in that situation and yes, you’re right, you shouldn’t even attempt to upgrade from 98, even if you could.

The problem is that PS really hammers the RAM, disk space, etc and puts a strain on the operating system to keep up. Consequently, unstable OSs such as 98 are more likely to cause problems. As a cheaper solution, may I suggest you try and pick up a copy of Win2k, which is far more stable than 98 (it was rock solid when I was using it) and should be quite cheap now that XP is out, and XP2 is due. But, get the full version 🙂

Incidentally, it could be worse, you could have Win ME 😉

P&M

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Hecate

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Hecate wrote:

I realise that a lot of people are in that situation and yes, you’re right, you shouldn’t even attempt to upgrade from 98, even if you could.

Are you saying that a person should do a clean install instead of upgrading over 98?

The problem is that PS really hammers the RAM, disk space, etc and puts a strain on the operating system to keep up. Consequently, unstable OSs such as 98 are more likely to cause problems. As a cheaper solution, may I suggest you try and pick up a copy of Win2k, which is far more stable than 98 (it was rock solid when I was using it) and should be quite cheap now that XP is out, and XP2 is due. But, get the full version

Thanks for the tip.

Incidentally, it could be worse, you could have Win ME

LOL!! What are you talking about? I DO have Win ME! ;-)) However, I could never get it installed right, so I got mad and threw it across the room, then I got it and threw it into a box of old CDs and now I can’t find the serial number…I guess I’m better off not being able to find it. ;-))

Jerry
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Hecate wrote:

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:05:41 GMT, Jerry Cargile
wrote:

Hecate wrote:

Using Photoshop seriously is a *very* good reason to get a, let’s say, more *adult* operating system 😉

I would consider getting the adult version of XP, but my Win 98 is an upgrade from 95 and I’ve heard that you can’t upgrade XP from an upgrade and it can’t be upgraded from 95. So…that would mean that I’d have to buy the full version and I don’t want to shell out that much, at the present time.

I realise that a lot of people are in that situation and yes, you’re right, you shouldn’t even attempt to upgrade from 98, even if you could.

The problem is that PS really hammers the RAM, disk space, etc and puts a strain on the operating system to keep up. Consequently, unstable OSs such as 98 are more likely to cause problems. As a cheaper solution, may I suggest you try and pick up a copy of Win2k, which is far more stable than 98 (it was rock solid when I was using it) and should be quite cheap now that XP is out, and XP2 is due. But, get the full version 🙂

Incidentally, it could be worse, you could have Win ME 😉
P&M

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Hecate

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"Hecate" wrote in message

On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 00:08:40 GMT, "Vincent Fennell" wrote:

I have 4 Gigs of RAM on a Windows XP Pro machine. PS 7.01 only sees 1.777 gigs. Why?

Thanks

Because Photoshop has a 2Gb barrier. There are two solutions to this:

[snip]

I thought I read somewhere this was a 32 bit OS, rather than a Photoshop limitation. Hmm…can’t remember, and what difference does it make anyway?

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On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 00:50:34 GMT, Jerry Cargile
wrote:

Are you saying that a person should do a clean install instead of upgrading over 98?

Absolutely. Never, ever do an upgrade to WIn 2K or Win XP. You’ll be piling up a whole lot of trouble.

The problem is that PS really hammers the RAM, disk space, etc and puts a strain on the operating system to keep up. Consequently, unstable OSs such as 98 are more likely to cause problems. As a cheaper solution, may I suggest you try and pick up a copy of Win2k, which is far more stable than 98 (it was rock solid when I was using it) and should be quite cheap now that XP is out, and XP2 is due. But, get the full version

Thanks for the tip.

I thought it may be a solution for you 🙂

Incidentally, it could be worse, you could have Win ME

LOL!! What are you talking about? I DO have Win ME! ;-)) However, I could never get it installed right, so I got mad and threw it across the room, then I got it and threw it into a box of old CDs and now I can’t find the serial number…I guess I’m better off not being able to find it. ;-))

Definitely. ME is a complete waste of space. It’s really just a bug fix for 98, tarted up as a new OS. It runs slower, and apart from a few little features most people can live without, doesn’t help you one bit. Photoshop won’t run any better on ME 5than it does 98 (in fact, it’ll likely run slower) so if I was you’d I’d make the CD an up-market coaster 😉

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Hecate

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On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:02:32 -0700, "Flycaster" wrote:

"Hecate" wrote in message

On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 00:08:40 GMT, "Vincent Fennell" wrote:

I have 4 Gigs of RAM on a Windows XP Pro machine. PS 7.01 only sees 1.777 gigs. Why?

Thanks

Because Photoshop has a 2Gb barrier. There are two solutions to this:

[snip]

I thought I read somewhere this was a 32 bit OS, rather than a Photoshop limitation. Hmm…can’t remember, and what difference does it make anyway?

No, it’s a Photoshop barrier. They hadn’t changed the code to allow PS to access more than 2Gb of memory. it only becomes a problem when, like this guy you have 4Gb of memory and you can’t get PS to access it.

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Hecate

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"Hecate" wrote in message

I thought I read somewhere this was a 32 bit OS, rather than a Photoshop limitation. Hmm…can’t remember, and what difference does it make

anyway?

No, it’s a Photoshop barrier. They hadn’t changed the code to allow PS to access more than 2Gb of memory. it only becomes a problem when, like this guy you have 4Gb of memory and you can’t get PS to access it.

Ahh, here it is (though to be sure, Hecate, I don’t know if this is correct). And, I could be wrong, but I thought I remember Chris C. saying the same thing:

The quote below is taken from this web-site:
http://www.hothardware.com/hh_files/CCAM/a64fx_51_launch(3).shtml "Why 64-bit?

The advantages of running native a 64-bit operating system and applications are two-fold. First, the 4GB memory limit, associated with 32-bit software and hardware architectures, is now a thing of the past. Current versions of Windows XP can address up to 4GB of memory, 2GB are allotted to the OS while 2GB is available for running applications. Microsoft’s server OSes have the ability to address up to 32GB of memory through a technique known as PAE (Physical Address Extension), but each application is still limited to 2GB. With Windows XP 64-bit Edition, the new memory limit is 16 terabytes, or 16,000GB, and all of that RAM will be available to the OS and applications. [snip]"

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