Photoshop CS4 – Need help

DG
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daniel_green
Nov 23, 2008
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First and foremost I have 3 issues with CS4 I hate. If they can’t be resolved, its going on ebay.

This new dock and lock window system, can it be set back to the classic setup. I dont like the tab system or the absence of a minimize button next to the X on the tab.

Layer adjustment windows no longer have an OK and canel button? Please tell me they are kidding.

Clone stamp, I dont like the sample point displayed in the curser. Can you change it.

I am a photographer not a graphic designer. I would like to use the new 3D, GL open and other features but if the basic photo processing workflow is this poor, it’s gone. Adobe is ruthless for not doing a better job of communicating the system requirements of this software. I dont have a gig of ram on my pefered desktop and I dont want XP service pack 3. It seems there are compatability issues with half the video cards out there. You can lay fault where you want but if adobe is requiring specific video cards to use the software, it should have been made crystal clear before you purchase. I had to do a search to even find the system requirements on the website. It isn’t with the product discription, I’m sure intentionally.
If anyone has any issues with my main 3 issues, I’d appreciate it. Else CS2 is getting reloaded.
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FM
Fred M Stevens
Nov 23, 2008
Edit > Preferences > Interface:
-uncheck Open Documents As Tabs
-uncheck Enable Floating Document Window Docking

For adjustment layers, it’s all in the new Adjustments panel. press Backspace to cancel.

open Clone Source panel, then uncheck "show overlay"

also, make sure the drivers for your video cards are up-to-date. this will help with stability in PS CS4 and make sure you don’t run into any of the known bugs (bugs that are caused by video cards and/or drivers not working as advertised — not by Photoshop).
DM
dave_milbut
Nov 23, 2008
I dont want XP service pack 3.

performance increases alone over sp2 are worth that upgrade. never mind all the security fixes…

if adobe is requiring specific video cards to use the software, it should have been made crystal clear before you purchase.

seems to me like adobe coded to the specs, and the card manufacturers who’ve been pushing the spec never expected to be called on it. and their implementations are buggy or shoddy. the specs are there so that different companies can write to them, expecting others who also subscribe to the same specs to be able to work together. if someone drops the ball, the other company’s not at fault. maybe adobe screwed up, but maybe the card manufacturer’s screwed up. can’t tell from here. as things get fixed, we’ll know who was to blame… sooner or later.
ND
Nick_Decker
Nov 23, 2008
if adobe is requiring specific video cards to use the software, it should have been made crystal clear before you purchase.

I think Dave’s response is reasonable, and I don’t know where the fault lies, but CS4 is not working as advertised for me. I will continue to post about it, even though I was told in another thread to "STFU".
DM
dave_milbut
Nov 23, 2008
even though I was told in another thread to "STFU".

really?!! did i miss that? you should defiantly not stfu! you have every right to yell loud and clear until someone fixes the remaining issues! just make sure to yell to all sides, adobe and the card manufacturers.

I admit that adobe should have done better testing on this. hard to believe so many big issues like this slipped through beta. i suspect marketing is to blame for pushing the ship date as much as anything else. if there were issues and someone said "ship it, that’ll get the card makers to fix their bugs", that person is irresponsible and should be smacked around by the developers who are taking the heat.
JJ
John Joslin
Nov 23, 2008
That was only referring to Nick’s moaning about an Adobe engineer’s replies. No need for that.

As far as Adobe’s products are concerned, I have done my share of moaning too!
DM
dave_milbut
Nov 24, 2008
oh, that. 🙂
BC
Basil_Crowley
Nov 24, 2008
Before this thread gets lost in the mists of time, I think Fred Stevens’ helpful reply to Daniel Green’s very reasonable points should be saved in the FAQs, if it hasn’t already.

The failure of graphics cards manufacturers to adhere to software standards may not be Adobe’s fault, but the fact that they don’t, or that the standards are inadequate, should have been good enough reason for Adobe not to go there.

Nevertheless it is nice to see that some GPU vendors (like Nvidia) are doing their best to put things right, but this should have been done before CS4 was released, while people with older or non-mainstream cards will continue to find it frustrating. However, it should not be necessary to invest in a ‘games spec’ (using the term loosely) machine to run Photoshop properly. It wasn’t before, it shouldn’t be now. What the software actually does has not substantially changed, and even on my aging P4 system, CS3 was quite fast enough. Reliability and stability are much much more important than lightning speed or slickness, and there can be little doubt that, with CS4, this has declined in line with the substantially increased complexity of the software – and much more acutely, I would say, than with any previous release of Photoshop.

People keep saying hopefully that everything will get fixed in due course. I’m not so sure. Adobe don’t make money out of updates, only new releases. There is a lot of pressure therefore to get these onto the market and to have lots of new feature and gimmicks to justify the cost of it. So by the time CS4 is patched, if it ever is, we’ll all be facing the prospect of CS5 and wondering if it is all worth it!

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