DAVID DIPSHIT MOORE AND HIS INSANE CLAIMS
"freedom" <aboutKRPken@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
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>>
>>>>You mean the KID who CLAIMED he lived next door to the CEO of American
>>>>Airlines who HE SAID told him that American NEVER flew to Cuba. Except I
>>>>proved they did and still do almost every day. Like HIM, Davey? The
>>>>photos
>>>>of the boarding passes, tickets, and airport stamps are still up. Please
>>>>FEEL FREE to do your usual yapping at to why you think they are FAKE.
>>
>>> I think they're fake because SEVERAL people in the Photoshop newsgroup
>>> ID'ed them as fakes....not just one "kid" as you try to rant.
>>
>> ONE KID, Moore. Feel free to post the Google links to show us the
>>SEVERAL. The ones NOT posting through anonymous remailers, that is. They
>>are
>>UP Davey. http://s283.photobucket.com/albums/kk302/kenPphotos/ This is
>>crossposted to the PHOTOSHOP newsgroup. See Davey if you can BEG to find
>>anyone to agree with you that they are fakes and explain WHY they are
>>faked.
>>Or HOW, that is. You KNOW they aren't faked. You just have your ass over
>>a
>>crack and can't figure out how to save yourself.
> Actually, I don't give a rat's ass whether you went to Cuba or not. Nor
> was I even involved in the original discussion, although you were falsely
> insisting that "Robert Gautier" was me.
Davey one kid and two agreed but were NEVER able to give a cogent
reason. One finally admitted he was "NO EXPERT." The best we got in all
that BULLSHIT was a white space that seemed "too even" for one, and another
who claimed that American and Continental do NOT fly to Cuba. That's your
BEST SHOT Moore. It fails miserably. Again the photos are up, maybe you can
find somebody new willing to make an ass of themselves? Somebody who can be
specific?????
> However, as you have again given me an open invitation to nail your fat
> ass
> to the wall, here are posts from four different people in the thread in
> question:
> Message-ID: <MbMJb.45939$E17.23630@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>
> "JP Kabala", posting from Verizon, which is not an anonymous remailer,
> said: "The person who did the alteration didn't pay attention to paper
> textures and ink properties."
How does one CHECK paper texture and ink properties in a photo???????
Oh let's look at this comment:
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From: "JP Kabala" <j...@jpkabala.com>
Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 03:58:36 GMT
Local: Sat, Jan 3 2004 10:58 pm
Subject: Re: PHOTOSHOP ALTERATION
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Aside from the fact that neither American Airlines nor Continental go to
Cuba?
While it is possible (for someone with Canadian or UK passport, but not a
US citizen) to book a AA or CA flight to the Bahamas, Haiti, Jamaica or the
Caymans with a connection via AeroCaribe or other small charter carrier, CA,
AA, AE,
and AC flights do not/can not disembark in Cuba...not today, and not since
the
60's. You can fly from London to Havana, but not from Miami to Holaguin.
That's not Photoshop, that's Road Warrior 101 and 9th grade social studies.
But the Photoshop is clumsy, too. The person who did the alteration didn't
pay attention to paper textures and ink properties.
THESE ARE DAVID MOORE'S SOURCES!!! <chuckle> Paper textures?
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From: Jackie Laderoute <jfladero...@shaw.ca>
Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 04:39:11 GMT
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On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 03:58:36 GMT, "JP Kabala" <j...@jpkabala.com> wrote:
>Aside from the fact that neither American Airlines nor Continental go to
>Cuba?
>While it is possible (for someone with Canadian or UK passport, but not a
>US citizen) to book a AA or CA flight to the Bahamas, Haiti, Jamaica or the
>Caymans with a connection via AeroCaribe or other small charter carrier,
>CA, AA, AE, and AC flights do not/can not disembark in Cuba...not today,
> and not since the 60's. You can fly from London to Havana, but not from
>Miami to Holaguin.
Shown to be FALSE!! There ARE flights to Cuba from Miami.
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From: Stuart <stu...@nospam.uk>
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 18:22:03 +0000
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> I came into the Photoshop newsgroup with a SIMPLE question. It is YOU
> playing childish games NOT ME. Your most recent post you admitted that
> you
> don't have the ability to tell. Which makes me wonder WHY in hell you
> stepped into the subject in the first place. Either you can tell or you
> can't! Which is it? If you CAN'T then you are merely playing in a flame
> war.
Well a friend looked at it and can see that the white continental airlines
ticket is fake, then is a large white even fill area in the middle of the
ticket to
the right of name. This should be uneven if scanned properly.
So there you go.
Stuart
REALLY? What if there never was any printing there in the first place?
Of course
85. tek1 View profile I don't know what you're arguing about - KRP
hooked me up with people in Holguin and others who are going - it's faily
obvious he's been himself. Could we move on?? Gery
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From: "tek1" <tek1@NOS_PAM.aei.net>
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 08:06:06 -0500
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I don't know what you're arguing about - KRP hooked me up with people in
Holguin and others who are going - it's faily obvious he's been himself.
Could we move on??
Gery
As always Moore you are so SELECTIVE in your quotes. The closest thing to
any intelligent discussion was one guy's claims about PAPER TEXTURE and INK.
<yawn? From a JPEG? REALLY? REALLY REALLY???? Come on Davey, not even KENT
WILLS is THAT dumb. Almanac?
>>As to the original question; personally a better quality scan would be
>>better.
> I understand Stuart. Maybe I can send you one.
No need, I meant it more as a general suggestion for the original linked
image. To be honest I am not an expert so probably wouldn't be able to
tell even with a better quality scan. I am not getting into the
bickering and not being from the US I can't totally understand why this
post has gotten so out of hand.
=======================
We've gotten to the person who said he checked with American Airlines
and it doesn't fly to Cuba.
Again we see how selective DAVID MOORE is with his quotes. I just gave
some of the OTHER side of the story Davey won't show.
>"freedom" <aboutKRPken@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
>news:78db6b9d55417eb453abd078a91de41e@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
>>>
>>>>>You mean the KID who CLAIMED he lived next door to the CEO of American
>>>>>Airlines who HE SAID told him that American NEVER flew to Cuba. Except I
>>>>>proved they did and still do almost every day. Like HIM, Davey? The
>>>>>photos
>>>>>of the boarding passes, tickets, and airport stamps are still up. Please
>>>>>FEEL FREE to do your usual yapping at to why you think they are FAKE.
>>>
>>>> I think they're fake because SEVERAL people in the Photoshop newsgroup
>>>> ID'ed them as fakes....not just one "kid" as you try to rant.
>>>
>>> ONE KID, Moore. Feel free to post the Google links to show us the
>>>SEVERAL. The ones NOT posting through anonymous remailers, that is. They
>>>are
>>>UP Davey. http://s283.photobucket.com/albums/kk302/kenPphotos/ This is
>>>crossposted to the PHOTOSHOP newsgroup. See Davey if you can BEG to find
>>>anyone to agree with you that they are fakes and explain WHY they are
>>>faked.
>>>Or HOW, that is. You KNOW they aren't faked. You just have your ass over
>>>a
>>>crack and can't figure out how to save yourself.
>
>> Actually, I don't give a rat's ass whether you went to Cuba or not. Nor
>> was I even involved in the original discussion, although you were falsely
>> insisting that "Robert Gautier" was me.
>
> Davey one kid and two agreed but were NEVER able to give a cogent
>reason.
Yet David quoted, and you snipped, the reasons.
How do you explain that?
I'm waiting...
"It's attached to a thing called a "WIFE" Betty."
Kenneth Robert Pangborn showing how he views his wife
as an object and NOT a human being.
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On Tue, 3 Nov 2009, krp <krp21@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>DAVID DIPSHIT MOORE AND HIS INSANE CLAIMS
>"freedom" <aboutKRPken@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
>news:78db6b9d55417eb453abd078a91de41e@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
>>>
>>>>>You mean the KID who CLAIMED he lived next door to the CEO of American
>>>>>Airlines who HE SAID told him that American NEVER flew to Cuba. Except I
>>>>>proved they did and still do almost every day. Like HIM, Davey? The
>>>>>photos
>>>>>of the boarding passes, tickets, and airport stamps are still up. Please
>>>>>FEEL FREE to do your usual yapping at to why you think they are FAKE.
>>>
>>>> I think they're fake because SEVERAL people in the Photoshop newsgroup
>>>> ID'ed them as fakes....not just one "kid" as you try to rant.
>>>
>>> ONE KID, Moore. Feel free to post the Google links to show us the
>>>SEVERAL. The ones NOT posting through anonymous remailers, that is. They
>>>are
>>>UP Davey. http://s283.photobucket.com/albums/kk302/kenPphotos/ This is
>>>crossposted to the PHOTOSHOP newsgroup. See Davey if you can BEG to find
>>>anyone to agree with you that they are fakes and explain WHY they are
>>>faked.
>>>Or HOW, that is. You KNOW they aren't faked. You just have your ass over
>>>a
>>>crack and can't figure out how to save yourself.
>
>> Actually, I don't give a rat's ass whether you went to Cuba or not. Nor
>> was I even involved in the original discussion, although you were falsely
>> insisting that "Robert Gautier" was me.
>
> Davey one kid and two agreed but were NEVER able to give a cogent
>reason. One finally admitted he was "NO EXPERT." The best we got in all
>that BULLSHIT was a white space that seemed "too even" for one, and another
>who claimed that American and Continental do NOT fly to Cuba. That's your
>BEST SHOT Moore. It fails miserably. Again the photos are up, maybe you can
>find somebody new willing to make an ass of themselves? Somebody who can be
>specific?????
No need. Several people, whom YOU deferred to as "experts," already outted
you on the fake boarding pass. And, as I said, I don't give a rat's ass
whether you went to Cuba. I have better things to do with my time.
"[I have] [n]ever had [any] standing in the Texas Criminal Defense Lawyer's
Association or AN Y connection to them."
--Ken Pangborn in a usenet post on January 1, 2009, denying affiliation
with the TCDLA, to whom he provided bogus educational credentials. His lie
is disproved here: http://web.archive.org/web/20060822021821/www.tcdla.com/secu re/experts/inde
x.shtml
"Some photo of some girl without even any documentation on THAT only proves
that YOU are a PSYCHO! A really STUPID one at that!"
--Ken Pangborn, admitting to being a "stupid" "psycho" in message-ID
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"The FACT is that [my mail-order wife Barbara Sanciprian] and I were
introduced in the FORMAL Spanish tradition by mutual friends, and were
married first in Cuba after 2 year courtship."
--Ken Pangborn, admitting that he began cheating on his wife Peggy on
September 28, 2001, nearly two years before she separated from him
"I'm David Moore and I am insane!"
--Ken Pangborn posting to alt.dads-rights.unmoderated, attempting to claim
that his name is David Moore
"If you call the police, I'll knock out all of your teeth, I'll cripple
you. I may go to prison for it, but when I get out, I'll be able to walk,
but you will still be a cripple."
--Pangborn puppet Greg Hanson of alt.support.child-protective-services **,
in a verbal threat to his girlfriend
** - this conclusion was reached via applying Ken and Greg's logic
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KRP > Davey one kid and two agreed but were NEVER
KRP > able to give a cogent reason. One finally admitted
KRP > he was "NO EXPERT." The best we got in all
KRP > that BULLSHIT was a white space that seemed
KRP > "too even" for one, and another who claimed that
KRP > American and Continental do NOT fly to Cuba.
KRP > That's your BEST SHOT Moore. It fails miserably.
KRP > Again the photos are up, maybe you can find
KRP > somebody new willing to make an ass of
KRP > themselves? Somebody who can be specific?????
DDM > No need. Several people, whom YOU deferred
DDM > to as "experts," already outted you on the fake
DDM > boarding pass. And, as I said, I don't give a
DDM > rat's ass whether you went to Cuba. I have
DDM > better things to do with my time.
Considering your 10+ year campaign of stalking
and harassment of Ken, don't you think it's
just a bit LATE to realize you "have better things
to do with [ your ] time" ?
On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 19:33:48 -0800 (PST), Greegor <greegor47@gmail.com>
wrote:
>KRP > Davey one kid and two agreed but were NEVER
>KRP > able to give a cogent reason. One finally admitted
>KRP > he was "NO EXPERT." The best we got in all
>KRP > that BULLSHIT was a white space that seemed
>KRP > "too even" for one, and another who claimed that
>KRP > American and Continental do NOT fly to Cuba.
>KRP > That's your BEST SHOT Moore. It fails miserably.
>KRP > Again the photos are up, maybe you can find
>KRP > somebody new willing to make an ass of
>KRP > themselves? Somebody who can be specific?????
>
>DDM > No need. Several people, whom YOU deferred
>DDM > to as "experts," already outted you on the fake
>DDM > boarding pass. And, as I said, I don't give a
>DDM > rat's ass whether you went to Cuba. I have
>DDM > better things to do with my time.
>
>Considering your 10+ year campaign of stalking
>and harassment of Ken, don't you think it's
>just a bit LATE to realize you "have better things
>to do with [ your ] time" ?
>
>LOL
Um, Greg? Aren't you the guy who, in addition to at least one
other poster, posted Google Street pictures of a van and house,
claiming both belonged to Dan?
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With the Christmas season upon us again, my stepdaughter was launching
into her usual tirade of "I need this" (Nintendo 64 games, Pokemon,
videos, Rhianna CD, etc.) After enduring a trip through Kmart, I
was at my wits end. I took the kid home and filled the bathtub with
water. Then I dunked the brat's head under the water and counted out
a full minute, with her flailing her arms. I brought her up and she
gasped for air. When she'd caught her breath, I asked her, "When you
were under that water, did you 'need' Nintendo? Pokemon? Rhianna?"
She shook her head. "What were you thinking about?" I
prodded. She told me "I was thinking that I needed air."
"Now you know the difference between 'need' and 'want'" I exclaimed
triumphantly.
>>>>>>You mean the KID who CLAIMED he lived next door to the CEO of American
>>>>>>Airlines who HE SAID told him that American NEVER flew to Cuba. Except
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>proved they did and still do almost every day. Like HIM, Davey? The
>>>>>>photos
>>>>>>of the boarding passes, tickets, and airport stamps are still up.
>>>>>>Please
>>>>>>FEEL FREE to do your usual yapping at to why you think they are FAKE.
>>>>
>>>>> I think they're fake because SEVERAL people in the Photoshop newsgroup
>>>>> ID'ed them as fakes....not just one "kid" as you try to rant.
>>>>
>>>> ONE KID, Moore. Feel free to post the Google links to show us the
>>>>SEVERAL. The ones NOT posting through anonymous remailers, that is. They
>>>>are
>>>>UP Davey. http://s283.photobucket.com/albums/kk302/kenPphotos/ This is
>>>>crossposted to the PHOTOSHOP newsgroup. See Davey if you can BEG to find
>>>>anyone to agree with you that they are fakes and explain WHY they are
>>>>faked.
>>>>Or HOW, that is. You KNOW they aren't faked. You just have your ass
>>>>over
>>>>a
>>>>crack and can't figure out how to save yourself.
>>
>>> Actually, I don't give a rat's ass whether you went to Cuba or not. Nor
>>> was I even involved in the original discussion, although you were
>>> falsely
>>> insisting that "Robert Gautier" was me.
>>
>> Davey one kid and two agreed but were NEVER able to give a cogent
>>reason. One finally admitted he was "NO EXPERT." The best we got in all
>>that BULLSHIT was a white space that seemed "too even" for one, and
>>another
>>who claimed that American and Continental do NOT fly to Cuba. That's your
>>BEST SHOT Moore. It fails miserably. Again the photos are up, maybe you
>>can
>>find somebody new willing to make an ass of themselves? Somebody who can
>>be
>>specific?????
> No need. Several people, whom YOU deferred to as "experts," already
> outted
> you on the fake boarding pass. And, as I said, I don't give a rat's ass
> whether you went to Cuba. I have better things to do with my time.
Funny NONE of the people claimed to be "EXPERTS" Davey in fact TWO of
them freely admitted they were NOT. You come back to the KID who claims be
based his OPINION that they were "fakes" on his "inside information" That
neither American Airlines or Continental have EVERY flown to Cuba. NOT ONCE!
Yet I proved that claim to be full of shit. Back in 2004 you were quite
verbal claiming you had PROOF that I never went to Cuba. You expended
several dozens of posts on your false claims. Again the SAME PHOTO plus
others are available for you to AGAIN try to make your case that they are
FAKES. All done on Photoshop. Well there is some truth to your claim Davey.
My scanner imports photos into my copy of Photoshop. I then save them using
Photoshop, but that is NOT your claim. YOUR CLAIM has been that the photos
were ALTERED using Photoshop. That they are faked. I provided EXTERNAL
evidence from the charter company and other sources. All of which you
snipped or disputed. The link is being posted AGAIN to the Photoshop
newsgroup. Has anyone come forward to agree with YOUR claims that they are
FAKED?
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KRP > Davey one kid and two agreed but were NEVER
KRP > able to give a cogent reason. One finally admitted
KRP > he was "NO EXPERT." The best we got in all
KRP > that BULLSHIT was a white space that seemed
KRP > "too even" for one, and another who claimed that
KRP > American and Continental do NOT fly to Cuba.
KRP > That's your BEST SHOT Moore. It fails miserably.
KRP > Again the photos are up, maybe you can find
KRP > somebody new willing to make an ass of
KRP > themselves? Somebody who can be specific?????
DDM > No need. Several people, whom YOU deferred
DDM > to as "experts," already outted you on the fake
DDM > boarding pass. And, as I said, I don't give a
DDM > rat's ass whether you went to Cuba. I have
DDM > better things to do with my time.
GH> Considering your 10+ year campaign of stalking
GH> and harassment of Ken, don't you think it's
GH> just a bit LATE to realize you "have better things
GH> to do with [ your ] time" ?
>> No need. Several people, whom YOU deferred to as "experts," already
>> outted
>> you on the fake boarding pass. And, as I said, I don't give a rat's ass
>> whether you went to Cuba. I have better things to do with my time.
>
>
> Funny NONE of the people claimed to be "EXPERTS" Davey in fact TWO of
>them freely admitted they were NOT.
In your mind that makes a person an expert, as PROVED by your
frequently claiming I'm an expert.
Either that, or you're so drunk you don't understand when someone
informs you that they're not an expert.
>You come back to the KID who claims be
>based his OPINION that they were "fakes" on his "inside information" That
>neither American Airlines or Continental have EVERY flown to Cuba. NOT ONCE!
>Yet I proved that claim to be full of shit. Back in 2004 you were quite
>verbal claiming you had PROOF that I never went to Cuba. You expended
>several dozens of posts on your false claims. Again the SAME PHOTO plus
>others are available for you to AGAIN try to make your case that they are
>FAKES. All done on Photoshop. Well there is some truth to your claim Davey.
>My scanner imports photos into my copy of Photoshop. I then save them using
>Photoshop, but that is NOT your claim. YOUR CLAIM has been that the photos
>were ALTERED using Photoshop. That they are faked. I provided EXTERNAL
>evidence from the charter company and other sources. All of which you
>snipped or disputed. The link is being posted AGAIN to the Photoshop
>newsgroup. Has anyone come forward to agree with YOUR claims that they are
>FAKED?
David included the MIDs for a few posts of people who did come
forward.
I note you snipped them in your reply. Do you Fear the truth so
much?
"CPS cases are legal matters. Offering advice IS practicing law
without a license."
Kenneth Robert Pangborn admitting he practices law without a
license in misc.legal
>>> No need. Several people, whom YOU deferred to as "experts," already
>>> outted
>>> you on the fake boarding pass. And, as I said, I don't give a rat's ass
>>> whether you went to Cuba. I have better things to do with my time.
>>
>>
>> Funny NONE of the people claimed to be "EXPERTS" Davey in fact TWO of
>>them freely admitted they were NOT.
> In your mind that makes a person an expert, as PROVED by your
> frequently claiming I'm an expert.
> Either that, or you're so drunk you don't understand when someone
> informs you that they're not an expert.
No, Kunt, you ATILL don't get it. I know that you are not an expert,
neither is your fairy buddy Moore. But you two are terribly strident with
your claims that the photos ARE faked. Thus setin forth that YOU must think
you ARE, in fact, EXPERTS. I just make fun of your idiotic claims. Which
are, in the very best light, INSANE claims.
>>You come back to the KID who claims be
>>based his OPINION that they were "fakes" on his "inside information" That
>>neither American Airlines or Continental have EVERY flown to Cuba. NOT
>>ONCE!
>>Yet I proved that claim to be full of shit. Back in 2004 you were quite
>>verbal claiming you had PROOF that I never went to Cuba. You expended
>>several dozens of posts on your false claims. Again the SAME PHOTO plus
>>others are available for you to AGAIN try to make your case that they are
>>FAKES. All done on Photoshop. Well there is some truth to your claim
>>Davey.
>>My scanner imports photos into my copy of Photoshop. I then save them
>>using
>>Photoshop, but that is NOT your claim. YOUR CLAIM has been that the photos
>>were ALTERED using Photoshop. That they are faked. I provided EXTERNAL
>>evidence from the charter company and other sources. All of which you
>>snipped or disputed. The link is being posted AGAIN to the Photoshop
>>newsgroup. Has anyone come forward to agree with YOUR claims that they are
>>FAKED?
> David included the MIDs for a few posts of people who did come
> forward. I note you snipped them in your reply. Do you Fear the truth
> so
> much?
No Kunt, in my initial reply I took each on, BUT yolur problem is that I
went back to the WHOLE posts and not the DISHONEST SNIPPETS thay your gay
lover, Moore tried to use., where he removed things like olne of the posters
he quoted several times who admitted that he was NOT an expert with
Photoshop. Among other things.
> That you have a Photobucket page proves nothing.
Sure it does Kunt. It allows you to inspect the photos in question and
do an in depth analysis to support your FACT CLAIMS that they are "OBVIOUS
FAKES." I keep asking you to support your claims, but you run away every
times. There they sit. MAKE YOUR CASE.
>>See how fast you can RUN AGAIN, Davey boy! RUN LITTLE PANSY - RUN!
HE never has. But why don't YOU, Kunt, take a stab at it. You keep making
the FACT CLAIM that they are "OBVIOUS FAKES" how about backing it up with
some of your POLACK REASONING? Or is it you are just afraid because you know
your lunch IS going to be eaten if you try?
>
>"Kent Wills" <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:99s7f59j4su8jeo91pl3svmfpbronsn8vs@4ax.com...
>
>>>> No need. Several people, whom YOU deferred to as "experts," already
>>>> outted
>>>> you on the fake boarding pass. And, as I said, I don't give a rat's ass
>>>> whether you went to Cuba. I have better things to do with my time.
>>>
>>>
>>> Funny NONE of the people claimed to be "EXPERTS" Davey in fact TWO of
>>>them freely admitted they were NOT.
>
>> In your mind that makes a person an expert, as PROVED by your
>> frequently claiming I'm an expert.
>> Either that, or you're so drunk you don't understand when someone
>> informs you that they're not an expert.
>
> No, Kunt, you ATILL don't get it. I know that you are not an expert,
I do get that you are UNABLE to resist your drunken compulsion to
claim I am an expert. I've understood this for a while.
It appears everyone reading also understands. Certainly no one is
willing to offer a counter to the claim. Not even you.
>neither is your fairy buddy Moore. But you two are terribly strident with
>your claims that the photos ARE faked.
I've made no such claim. I've not seen David make such a claim.
Post the MIDs and/or Google links to one post from each of us
making the claim, unless you're mistaken about what each of us posted.
>Thus setin forth that YOU must think
>you ARE, in fact, EXPERTS.
I've stated, multiple times, that I am not. David has also stated
he is not.
Even so, you MUST claim we are. You can't stop yourself, even if
you want to. And there is no evidence to suggest you want to stop
your drunken compulsions.
>I just make fun of your idiotic claims. Which
You've acknowledged the printing looks different. It's the
difference as compared to the rest of the printing that leads me to
believe they're fake.
If my claim that the printing looks different is idiotic, what
does that make your confirmation of it?
>are, in the very best light, INSANE claims.
>
You've already stated you're insane. You may have been lying,
but you constantly offer proof that you were being very honest.
>>>You come back to the KID who claims be
>>>based his OPINION that they were "fakes" on his "inside information" That
>>>neither American Airlines or Continental have EVERY flown to Cuba. NOT
>>>ONCE!
>>>Yet I proved that claim to be full of shit. Back in 2004 you were quite
>>>verbal claiming you had PROOF that I never went to Cuba. You expended
>>>several dozens of posts on your false claims. Again the SAME PHOTO plus
>>>others are available for you to AGAIN try to make your case that they are
>>>FAKES. All done on Photoshop. Well there is some truth to your claim
>>>Davey.
>>>My scanner imports photos into my copy of Photoshop. I then save them
>>>using
>>>Photoshop, but that is NOT your claim. YOUR CLAIM has been that the photos
>>>were ALTERED using Photoshop. That they are faked. I provided EXTERNAL
>>>evidence from the charter company and other sources. All of which you
>>>snipped or disputed. The link is being posted AGAIN to the Photoshop
>>>newsgroup. Has anyone come forward to agree with YOUR claims that they are
>>>FAKED?
>
>> David included the MIDs for a few posts of people who did come
>> forward. I note you snipped them in your reply. Do you Fear the truth
>> so
>> much?
>
> No Kunt, in my initial reply I took each on, BUT yolur problem is that I
>went back to the WHOLE posts and not the DISHONEST SNIPPETS thay your gay
>lover, Moore tried to use., where he removed things like olne of the posters
>he quoted several times who admitted that he was NOT an expert with
>Photoshop. Among other things.
He quoted each one once.
>
>>> WAVING A RED CAPE IN FRONT OF THE BULL(shit artist) (Moore) yet AGAIN.
>>>http://s283.photobucket.com/albums/kk302/kenPphotos/
>
>> That you have a Photobucket page proves nothing.
>
> Sure it does Kunt. It allows you to inspect the photos in question and
>do an in depth analysis to support your FACT CLAIMS that they are "OBVIOUS
>FAKES."
You alone use the words OBVIOUS FAKES in regards to the images.
I've never done so. I've not seen anyone else do so.
>I keep asking you to support your claims, but you run away every
>times. There they sit. MAKE YOUR CASE.
The ink is of a different intensity in one part. Looking at the
images will PROVE my claim.
Technically true. Whereas he's never claimed the are fakes, he's
only deferred to the more learned opinions of others, he's not done
so.
While it's not really true as you present it, technically your
claim is true.
>But why don't YOU, Kunt, take a stab at it. You keep making
>the FACT CLAIM that they are "OBVIOUS FAKES"
Post the MID and/or Google link to one post where *I* made such a
claim. Just one is all I ask. That would be a win for you.
If you're wrong, you'll offer nothing. That would be another in a
LONG list of losses for you.
>how about backing it up with
>some of your POLACK REASONING?
You're a bigot. You've proved this enough times already.
Why, exactly, are you so COMPELLED to offer more proof when your
bigotry is so accepted no one is willing to offer any sort of denial?
>Or is it you are just afraid because you know
>your lunch IS going to be eaten if you try?
>
>
Given your massive girth, skipping lunch would be a good idea for
you.
"Maybe he's like me to attach some kiddie porn to aid his fantasies"
Kenneth Robert Pangborn, of KRP Consulting and The A-Team, expressing
his fondness for child porn in
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>>>>> No need. Several people, whom YOU deferred to as "experts," already
>>>>> outted
>>>>> you on the fake boarding pass. And, as I said, I don't give a rat's
>>>>> ass
>>>>> whether you went to Cuba. I have better things to do with my time.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Funny NONE of the people claimed to be "EXPERTS" Davey in fact TWO
>>>> of
>>>>them freely admitted they were NOT.
>>
>>> In your mind that makes a person an expert, as PROVED by your
>>> frequently claiming I'm an expert.
>>> Either that, or you're so drunk you don't understand when someone
>>> informs you that they're not an expert.
>>
>> No, Kunt, you ATILL don't get it. I know that you are not an expert,
>
> I do get that you are UNABLE to resist your drunken compulsion to
> claim I am an expert. I've understood this for a while.
> It appears everyone reading also understands. Certainly no one is
> willing to offer a counter to the claim. Not even you.
>
>>neither is your fairy buddy Moore. But you two are terribly strident with
>>your claims that the photos ARE faked.
>
> I've made no such claim.
Let's see if we understand each other, now you are admitting they are
most likely genuine!
>
>"Kent Wills" <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1eeaf5l0th42vt8k2phnovvdkk6dpocl1d@4ax.com...
>
>>>>>> No need. Several people, whom YOU deferred to as "experts," already
>>>>>> outted
>>>>>> you on the fake boarding pass. And, as I said, I don't give a rat's
>>>>>> ass
>>>>>> whether you went to Cuba. I have better things to do with my time.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Funny NONE of the people claimed to be "EXPERTS" Davey in fact TWO
>>>>> of
>>>>>them freely admitted they were NOT.
>>>
>>>> In your mind that makes a person an expert, as PROVED by your
>>>> frequently claiming I'm an expert.
>>>> Either that, or you're so drunk you don't understand when someone
>>>> informs you that they're not an expert.
>>>
>>> No, Kunt, you ATILL don't get it. I know that you are not an expert,
>>
>> I do get that you are UNABLE to resist your drunken compulsion to
>> claim I am an expert. I've understood this for a while.
>> It appears everyone reading also understands. Certainly no one is
>> willing to offer a counter to the claim. Not even you.
>>
>>>neither is your fairy buddy Moore. But you two are terribly strident with
>>>your claims that the photos ARE faked.
>>
>> I've made no such claim.
>
> Let's see if we understand each other, now you are admitting they are
>most likely genuine!
As I stated, and you dishonestly snipped, I believe they are fake.
This is a long way from the bogus FACT CLAIM you mistakenly assign me.
"you are reading Moore's SELECTIVE material that is HIGHLY edited."
Kenneth Robert Pangborn claiming in misc.legal that David Moore can
and does edit Google's Usenet archive.
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>>>>>>> No need. Several people, whom YOU deferred to as "experts," already
>>>>>>> outted
>>>>>>> you on the fake boarding pass. And, as I said, I don't give a rat's
>>>>>>> ass
>>>>>>> whether you went to Cuba. I have better things to do with my time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Funny NONE of the people claimed to be "EXPERTS" Davey in fact TWO
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>them freely admitted they were NOT.
>>>>
>>>>> In your mind that makes a person an expert, as PROVED by your
>>>>> frequently claiming I'm an expert.
>>>>> Either that, or you're so drunk you don't understand when someone
>>>>> informs you that they're not an expert.
>>>>
>>>> No, Kunt, you ATILL don't get it. I know that you are not an expert,
>>>
>>> I do get that you are UNABLE to resist your drunken compulsion to
>>> claim I am an expert. I've understood this for a while.
>>> It appears everyone reading also understands. Certainly no one is
>>> willing to offer a counter to the claim. Not even you.
>>>
>>>>neither is your fairy buddy Moore. But you two are terribly strident
>>>>with
>>>>your claims that the photos ARE faked.
>>>
>>> I've made no such claim.
>>
>> Let's see if we understand each other, now you are admitting they are
>>most likely genuine!
>
> As I stated, and you dishonestly snipped, I believe they are fake.
Okay then PROVE IT! You can't have it both ways Kunt. If you believe
they are fake make YOUR CASE or STFU!!!
Me: "I suspect your stalking is due to the use and abuse of illegal
drugs, Greg. Is the reason for your stalking the members of
alt.friends due to the use and abuse of illegal drugs?
Gregory Scott Hanson, wife beater and child abuser: "Of course."
"My family's case is for Neglect, but we are treated
in virtually every regard as child abusers, marked on
the Child Abuse registry, for example."
-- Greg Scott Hanson telling Usenet he's a FOUNDED child abuser.
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" ... But there ought to be conferences and studies on how to curb
minority overpopulation, repatriate minorities abroad, imprison more
minorities, increase use of the death penalty and divest minorities of
the power they have usurped over us in recent years. That would
address the most pressing problems of our day. ... "
April 2000, Gregory Hanson http://www.nationalist.org/ATW/2000/040101.html#Hanson
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With the Christmas season upon us again, my stepdaughter was launching
into her usual tirade of "I need this" (Nintendo 64 games, Pokemon,
videos, Rhianna CD, etc.) After enduring a trip through Kmart, I
was at my wits end. I took the kid home and filled the bathtub with
water. Then I dunked the brat's head under the water and counted out
a full minute, with her flailing her arms. I brought her up and she
gasped for air. When she'd caught her breath, I asked her, "When you
were under that water, did you 'need' Nintendo? Pokemon? Rhianna?"
She shook her head. "What were you thinking about?" I
prodded. She told me "I was thinking that I needed air."
"Now you know the difference between 'need' and 'want'" I exclaimed
triumphantly.
>
>"Kent Wills" <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:h0fbf5l8c3vc4m0jfhvadl87mr9abcqptu@4ax.com...
>
>>>>>>>> No need. Several people, whom YOU deferred to as "experts," already
>>>>>>>> outted
>>>>>>>> you on the fake boarding pass. And, as I said, I don't give a rat's
>>>>>>>> ass
>>>>>>>> whether you went to Cuba. I have better things to do with my time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Funny NONE of the people claimed to be "EXPERTS" Davey in fact TWO
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>them freely admitted they were NOT.
>>>>>
>>>>>> In your mind that makes a person an expert, as PROVED by your
>>>>>> frequently claiming I'm an expert.
>>>>>> Either that, or you're so drunk you don't understand when someone
>>>>>> informs you that they're not an expert.
>>>>>
>>>>> No, Kunt, you ATILL don't get it. I know that you are not an expert,
>>>>
>>>> I do get that you are UNABLE to resist your drunken compulsion to
>>>> claim I am an expert. I've understood this for a while.
>>>> It appears everyone reading also understands. Certainly no one is
>>>> willing to offer a counter to the claim. Not even you.
>>>>
>>>>>neither is your fairy buddy Moore. But you two are terribly strident
>>>>>with
>>>>>your claims that the photos ARE faked.
>>>>
>>>> I've made no such claim.
>>>
>>> Let's see if we understand each other, now you are admitting they are
>>>most likely genuine!
>>
>> As I stated, and you dishonestly snipped, I believe they are fake.
>
> Okay then PROVE IT!
That I've stated I believe it should stand as proof that I
believe it.
If I did not, I would have stated I do not believe it.
Try posting while sober, Pangborn. Seriously, try it one time.
>You can't have it both ways Kunt. If you believe
>they are fake make YOUR CASE or STFU!!!
>
How do you propose I prove a belief? I can point to that which
gives me cause to believe. In fact, I did so in another thread.
You even acknowledged the difference in print about a year ago.
"you are reading Moore's SELECTIVE material that is HIGHLY edited."
Kenneth Robert Pangborn claiming in misc.legal that David Moore can
and does edit Google's Usenet archive.
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"Kent Wills" <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:k90cf5d021r0kh4o500lcnuarle5ecb2cr@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 14:48:19 -0500, "krp" <krp21@tampabay.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Kent Wills" <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:h0fbf5l8c3vc4m0jfhvadl87mr9abcqptu@4ax.com...
>>
>>>>>>>>> No need. Several people, whom YOU deferred to as "experts,"
>>>>>>>>> already
>>>>>>>>> outted
>>>>>>>>> you on the fake boarding pass. And, as I said, I don't give a
>>>>>>>>> rat's
>>>>>>>>> ass
>>>>>>>>> whether you went to Cuba. I have better things to do with my
>>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Funny NONE of the people claimed to be "EXPERTS" Davey in fact
>>>>>>>> TWO
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>them freely admitted they were NOT.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In your mind that makes a person an expert, as PROVED by your
>>>>>>> frequently claiming I'm an expert.
>>>>>>> Either that, or you're so drunk you don't understand when
>>>>>>> someone
>>>>>>> informs you that they're not an expert.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, Kunt, you ATILL don't get it. I know that you are not an
>>>>>> expert,
>>>>>
>>>>> I do get that you are UNABLE to resist your drunken compulsion to
>>>>> claim I am an expert. I've understood this for a while.
>>>>> It appears everyone reading also understands. Certainly no one is
>>>>> willing to offer a counter to the claim. Not even you.
>>>>>
>>>>>>neither is your fairy buddy Moore. But you two are terribly strident
>>>>>>with
>>>>>>your claims that the photos ARE faked.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've made no such claim.
>>>>
>>>> Let's see if we understand each other, now you are admitting they
>>>> are
>>>>most likely genuine!
>>>
>>> As I stated, and you dishonestly snipped, I believe they are fake.
>>
>> Okay then PROVE IT!
>
> That I've stated I believe it should stand as proof that I
> believe it.
So you are so TOTALLY DELUSIONAL that you think that just because you
say something or that you believe something that THAT should stand as PROOF
of the FACT of the matter? You are one fukkked up dude, Wills. You are a
dumb Polack who isn't playing with a full deck. You make THAT painfully
obvious, Wills.
>
>"Kent Wills" <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:k90cf5d021r0kh4o500lcnuarle5ecb2cr@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 14:48:19 -0500, "krp" <krp21@tampabay.rr.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Kent Wills" <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:h0fbf5l8c3vc4m0jfhvadl87mr9abcqptu@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No need. Several people, whom YOU deferred to as "experts,"
>>>>>>>>>> already
>>>>>>>>>> outted
>>>>>>>>>> you on the fake boarding pass. And, as I said, I don't give a
>>>>>>>>>> rat's
>>>>>>>>>> ass
>>>>>>>>>> whether you went to Cuba. I have better things to do with my
>>>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Funny NONE of the people claimed to be "EXPERTS" Davey in fact
>>>>>>>>> TWO
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>them freely admitted they were NOT.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In your mind that makes a person an expert, as PROVED by your
>>>>>>>> frequently claiming I'm an expert.
>>>>>>>> Either that, or you're so drunk you don't understand when
>>>>>>>> someone
>>>>>>>> informs you that they're not an expert.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, Kunt, you ATILL don't get it. I know that you are not an
>>>>>>> expert,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I do get that you are UNABLE to resist your drunken compulsion to
>>>>>> claim I am an expert. I've understood this for a while.
>>>>>> It appears everyone reading also understands. Certainly no one is
>>>>>> willing to offer a counter to the claim. Not even you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>neither is your fairy buddy Moore. But you two are terribly strident
>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>your claims that the photos ARE faked.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've made no such claim.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's see if we understand each other, now you are admitting they
>>>>> are
>>>>>most likely genuine!
>>>>
>>>> As I stated, and you dishonestly snipped, I believe they are fake.
>>>
>>> Okay then PROVE IT!
>>
>> That I've stated I believe it should stand as proof that I
>> believe it.
>
> So you are so TOTALLY DELUSIONAL that you think that just because you
>say something or that you believe something that THAT should stand as PROOF
>of the FACT of the matter?
It stands as proof that I believe. I've never claimed anything
more.
>You are one fukkked up dude, Wills. You are a
>dumb Polack who isn't playing with a full deck. You make THAT painfully
>obvious, Wills.
Because I hold a belief? Please elaborate.
"I am insane!"
--Kenneth Robert Pangborn, of KRP Consulting and The A-team,
posting to alt.dads-rights.unmoderated claiming that he was found
legally insane.
On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 17:39:02 -0800 (PST), Greegor <greegor47@gmail.com>
wrote:
>I don't think
That is self evident.
>Kent really believes what he says.
Is that why you snipped the whole of the post? Do you fear being
exposed, again, for the lying pro-CPS scum you are to such a degree
you actually think snipping the whole of the post will make it stop?
Greg, why, exactly, do you LOVE the people at CPS so much? Why
do you ALWAYS give advice that will ensure the families LOSE against
CPS? I'd like very specific reasons, please.
Title: ST VS GREGORY HANSON
(DOB 05/22/1959)
CRIMINAL COMPLAINT 04/10/1996
Comments: CT 1 OWI 1ST
OTHER CITATION 04/10/1996
Comments: CT 2 SPEED
Disposition Status
GUILTY PLEA/DEFAULT
Me: "I suspect your stalking is due to the use and abuse of illegal
drugs, Greg. Is the reason for your stalking the members of
alt.friends due to the use and abuse of illegal drugs?
Gregory Scott Hanson, wife beater and child abuser: "Of course."
"My family's case is for Neglect, but we are treated
in virtually every regard as child abusers, marked on
the Child Abuse registry, for example."
-- Greg Scott Hanson telling Usenet he's a FOUNDED child abuser.
Message-ID: <35120b16.0401111639.6825febd@posting.google.com>
" ... But there ought to be conferences and studies on how to curb
minority overpopulation, repatriate minorities abroad, imprison more
minorities, increase use of the death penalty and divest minorities of
the power they have usurped over us in recent years. That would
address the most pressing problems of our day. ... "
April 2000, Gregory Hanson http://www.nationalist.org/ATW/2000/040101.html#Hanson
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From: Greegor <greegor47@gmail.com>
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With the Christmas season upon us again, my stepdaughter was launching
into her usual tirade of "I need this" (Nintendo 64 games, Pokemon,
videos, Rhianna CD, etc.) After enduring a trip through Kmart, I
was at my wits end. I took the kid home and filled the bathtub with
water. Then I dunked the brat's head under the water and counted out
a full minute, with her flailing her arms. I brought her up and she
gasped for air. When she'd caught her breath, I asked her, "When you
were under that water, did you 'need' Nintendo? Pokemon? Rhianna?"
She shook her head. "What were you thinking about?" I
prodded. She told me "I was thinking that I needed air."
"Now you know the difference between 'need' and 'want'" I exclaimed
triumphantly.
DDM>>>>>>>> No need. Several people, whom YOU deferred to as "experts,"
already
>>>>>>>>>>> outted you on the fake boarding pass. And, as I said, I don't
>>>>>>>>>>> give a
>>>>>>>>>>> rat's ass wether you went to Cuba. I have better things to do
>>>>>>>>>>> with my
>>>>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Funny NONE of the people claimed to be "EXPERTS" Davey in fact
>>>>>>>>>> TWO
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>them freely admitted they were NOT.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In your mind that makes a person an expert, as PROVED by your
>>>>>>>>> frequently claiming I'm an expert.
>>>>>>>>> Either that, or you're so drunk you don't understand when
>>>>>>>>> someone
>>>>>>>>> informs you that they're not an expert.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No, Kunt, you ATILL don't get it. I know that you are not an
>>>>>>>> expert,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I do get that you are UNABLE to resist your drunken compulsion to
>>>>>>> claim I am an expert. I've understood this for a while.
>>>>>>> It appears everyone reading also understands. Certainly no one
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> willing to offer a counter to the claim. Not even you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>neither is your fairy buddy Moore. But you two are terribly strident
>>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>your claims that the photos ARE faked.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've made no such claim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's see if we understand each other, now you are admitting they
>>>>>> are
>>>>>>most likely genuine!
>>>>>
>>>>> As I stated, and you dishonestly snipped, I believe they are fake.
>>>>
>>>> Okay then PROVE IT!
>>>
>>> That I've stated I believe it should stand as proof that I
>>> believe it.
>>
>> So you are so TOTALLY DELUSIONAL that you think that just because you
>>say something or that you believe something that THAT should stand as
>>PROOF
>>of the FACT of the matter?
> It stands as proof that I believe. I've never claimed anything more.
What is the basis for this STRIDENT BELIEF? What do you ***THINK*** you
see in the photos that you ***THINK*** supports your STRIDENT BELIEF that
they are FAKES?
>>You are one fukkked up dude, Wills. You are a
>>dumb Polack who isn't playing with a full deck. You make THAT painfully
>>obvious, Wills.
> Because I hold a belief? Please elaborate.
Because you believe that your drunken belief is PROOF of the ultimate
FACT! That because you SAY something that it is binding of the conclusive
FACT on the rest of the universe. THAT is why you are a fukkkking NUT CASE,
Wills. Either you know them to be a fake or you do not, if you DO - show us
your evidence, if you don't STFU!!!!! Got it Polack?
Greg, he just DEMANDS that everyone else BELIEVES what he claims. Note
for the record he will NOT come close to justifying his claims nor will he
stop making the claim that the photos are FAKED!
>>>>>>> Let's see if we understand each other, now you are admitting they
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>most likely genuine!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As I stated, and you dishonestly snipped, I believe they are fake.
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay then PROVE IT!
>>>>
>>>> That I've stated I believe it should stand as proof that I
>>>> believe it.
>>>
>>> So you are so TOTALLY DELUSIONAL that you think that just because you
>>>say something or that you believe something that THAT should stand as
>>>PROOF
>>>of the FACT of the matter?
>
>> It stands as proof that I believe. I've never claimed anything more.
>
> What is the basis for this STRIDENT BELIEF? What do you ***THINK*** you
>see in the photos that you ***THINK*** supports your STRIDENT BELIEF that
>they are FAKES?
The same items as always.
People who use Photoshop declared them to be fakes. These are
the same people you sought out as quasi-experts on the matter.
You freely acknowledged the intensity and pattern of the ink
changes.
Your total hatered for anything honest.
Each item alone might be grounds to wonder, but when combined,
they stand to give reason to firmly believe the images are bogus.
To date you've never proved that they are real. You have offered
evidence that they *could* be, but nothing that proves they are.
>
>>>You are one fukkked up dude, Wills. You are a
>>>dumb Polack who isn't playing with a full deck. You make THAT painfully
>>>obvious, Wills.
>
>> Because I hold a belief? Please elaborate.
>
> Because you believe that your drunken belief is PROOF of the ultimate
>FACT!
Even if I were one to consume alcohol to the degree you claim for
yourself (I don't, of course), I've never made a fact claim about the
tickets. You alone has assigned me such.
You alone use the words OBVIOUS FAKES in regards to them, though
you dishonestly assign the words to me and some others.
>That because you SAY something that it is binding of the conclusive
>FACT on the rest of the universe.
I've never presented such. Not outside your drunken delusions.
>THAT is why you are a fukkkking NUT CASE,
>Wills. Either you know them to be a fake or you do not, if you DO - show us
>your evidence, if you don't STFU!!!!!
So the right to express one's belief isn't, in your mind, extended
to minorities (people who emigrated to the U.S. in this case)?
How long have you held this warped view, Pangborn?
>Got it Polack?
I understand you're a bigot. I got it a LONG time ago.
"Maybe he's like me to attach some kiddie porn to aid his fantasies"
Kenneth Robert Pangborn, of KRP Consulting and The A-Team, expressing
his fondness for child porn in
Message-ID:
<RECUi.494$Q%3.238@trnddc04>
I've made no such demand, outside of your drunken hallucination.
>Note
>for the record he will NOT come close to justifying his claims nor will he
>stop making the claim that the photos are FAKED!
>
I've not claimed they are fake. Only that I believe they are.
The people you sought out as quasi-experts claimed they are
fakes.
Outside of your gallon of Wild Turkey, or whatever your booze of
choice is, I am not even a learned user of photoshop, let alone an
expert.
"I am insane!"
--Kenneth Robert Pangborn, of KRP Consulting and The A-team,
posting to alt.dads-rights.unmoderated claiming that he was found
legally insane.
>>>>>>> As I stated, and you dishonestly snipped, I believe they are
>>>>>>> fake.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Okay then PROVE IT!
>>>>>
>>>>> That I've stated I believe it should stand as proof that I
>>>>> believe it.
>>>>
>>>> So you are so TOTALLY DELUSIONAL that you think that just because
>>>> you
>>>>say something or that you believe something that THAT should stand as
>>>>PROOF
>>>>of the FACT of the matter?
>>
>>> It stands as proof that I believe. I've never claimed anything
>>> more.
>>
>> What is the basis for this STRIDENT BELIEF? What do you ***THINK***
>> you
>>see in the photos that you ***THINK*** supports your STRIDENT BELIEF that
>>they are FAKES?
> The same items as always.
> People who use Photoshop declared them to be fakes. These are
> the same people you sought out as quasi-experts on the matter.
That really is NOT true. Only ONE declared them to be fakes and TRIED to
claim expertise, but that blew up in the kid's face. The other guy claimed
they were fakes because of "paper texture and ink" but finally admitted he
was NOT knowledgeable. I was hoping for somebody who actually WAS qualified
with Photoshop. I didn't find anyone.
> You freely acknowledged the intensity and pattern of the ink changes.
No Kunt you LIE again. I said that any MECHANICAL printer is going to
have variations in ink density as well as registration. (Meaning the eveness
of the print line.) I categoricaly said the claims about PAPER texture were
IDIOTIC! And that is being charitable.
>>THAT is why you are a fukkkking NUT CASE, Wills. Either you know them to
>>be a fake or you do not, if you DO - show us
>>your evidence, if you don't STFU!!!!!
> So the right to express one's belief isn't, in your mind, extended
> to minorities (people who emigrated to the U.S. in this case)?
> How long have you held this warped view, Pangborn?
So, now in Willsworld - NUT CASES are a recognized minority? My wife is
a recent immigrant and SHE does better with English than YOU DO, POLACK!
Once again you PROVE your alcoholism forces you to claim that
which you KNOW is not true.
>"Kent Wills" <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:a0aef5tfh50n1ku3br4vna7f3uo6sboel6@4ax.com...
>
>>>>>>>> As I stated, and you dishonestly snipped, I believe they are
>>>>>>>> fake.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Okay then PROVE IT!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That I've stated I believe it should stand as proof that I
>>>>>> believe it.
>>>>>
>>>>> So you are so TOTALLY DELUSIONAL that you think that just because
>>>>> you
>>>>>say something or that you believe something that THAT should stand as
>>>>>PROOF
>>>>>of the FACT of the matter?
>>>
>>>> It stands as proof that I believe. I've never claimed anything
>>>> more.
>>>
>>> What is the basis for this STRIDENT BELIEF? What do you ***THINK***
>>> you
>>>see in the photos that you ***THINK*** supports your STRIDENT BELIEF that
>>>they are FAKES?
>
>> The same items as always.
>> People who use Photoshop declared them to be fakes. These are
>> the same people you sought out as quasi-experts on the matter.
>
> That really is NOT true.
It really is true.
>Only ONE declared them to be fakes and TRIED to
>claim expertise, but that blew up in the kid's face. The other guy claimed
>they were fakes because of "paper texture and ink" but finally admitted he
>was NOT knowledgeable. I was hoping for somebody who actually WAS qualified
>with Photoshop. I didn't find anyone.
You sought them out. Had they claimed they were valid, you
wouldn't have questioned anything. When they concluded they had been
altered, you got upset that your apparent fraud had been exposed.
Deal with the TRUTH that people who deal with and understand
image manipulation concluded the images were fake.
>
>> You freely acknowledged the intensity and pattern of the ink changes.
>
> No Kunt you LIE again.
You may lie about what you admitted as often as your alcoholism
demands.
>I said that any MECHANICAL printer is going to
>have variations in ink density as well as registration. (Meaning the eveness
>of the print line.)
I've seen no such post from you.
What's the MID? Would you post a link to the article on Google
where your claim can be seen, unless you're lying?
>I categoricaly said the claims about PAPER texture were
>IDIOTIC! And that is being charitable.
Which has what to do with my seeing the difference in intensity
and pattern? It wasn't me who stated they were proved to be fake
because of paper texture.
>
>>>THAT is why you are a fukkkking NUT CASE, Wills. Either you know them to
>>>be a fake or you do not, if you DO - show us
>>>your evidence, if you don't STFU!!!!!
>
>> So the right to express one's belief isn't, in your mind, extended
>> to minorities (people who emigrated to the U.S. in this case)?
>> How long have you held this warped view, Pangborn?
>
> So, now in Willsworld - NUT CASES are a recognized minority?
"(people who emigrated to the U.S. in this case)"
How long have you seen people who come to the U.S. as being NUT
CASES? And how does your wife feel about you believing she is
mentally ill?
Don't RUN from the questions, Pangborn. Answer them as honestly
as your self admitted alcoholism will permit.
>My wife is
>a recent immigrant and SHE does better with English than YOU DO, POLACK!
>
I can't know how well Barbara handles English. Of course, you
have claimed that everyone in Cuba learns English (except when you
need to claim no one does), so it's possible she's very good at it.
If she understands it better than me, and you consistently PROVE
I have a better grasp of it that you, she must tire of having to
endure your use of English, even when you don't speak in drunken
slurs.
"(CONTEXT REMOVED AS TO THE BELOW CLAIM)"
Kenneth Robert Pangborn admitting he alters the context of posts
when he replies.
MID FyUom.1363$Jd7.1084@nwrddc02.gnilink.net
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009, Kent Wills <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 05:11:03 -0500, "krp" <krp21@tampabay.rr.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>"Kent Wills" <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:1eeaf5l0th42vt8k2phnovvdkk6dpocl1d@4ax.com...
>>
>>>>>>> No need. Several people, whom YOU deferred to as "experts," already
>>>>>>> outted
>>>>>>> you on the fake boarding pass. And, as I said, I don't give a rat's
>>>>>>> ass
>>>>>>> whether you went to Cuba. I have better things to do with my time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Funny NONE of the people claimed to be "EXPERTS" Davey in fact TWO
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>them freely admitted they were NOT.
>>>>
>>>>> In your mind that makes a person an expert, as PROVED by your
>>>>> frequently claiming I'm an expert.
>>>>> Either that, or you're so drunk you don't understand when someone
>>>>> informs you that they're not an expert.
>>>>
>>>> No, Kunt, you ATILL don't get it. I know that you are not an expert,
>>>
>>> I do get that you are UNABLE to resist your drunken compulsion to
>>> claim I am an expert. I've understood this for a while.
>>> It appears everyone reading also understands. Certainly no one is
>>> willing to offer a counter to the claim. Not even you.
>>>
>>>>neither is your fairy buddy Moore. But you two are terribly strident with
>>>>your claims that the photos ARE faked.
>>>
>>> I've made no such claim.
>>
>> Let's see if we understand each other, now you are admitting they are
>>most likely genuine!
>
> As I stated, and you dishonestly snipped, I believe they are fake.
>This is a long way from the bogus FACT CLAIM you mistakenly assign me.
I share the same opinion, although I've never even looked at the scans in
question closely. As several people with knowledge of Photoshop stated
that they were fakes, it's reasonable to assume so.
Keep in mind, these people were complete strangers, and would have had no
motive to discredit Ken. There's also the fact that HE asked for their
opinions, then turned on them when they didn't tell him what they wanted to
hear.
What it comes down to is, do we believe several people who would have no
reason to lie, or one person who has been proven to lie?
"[I have] [n]ever had [any] standing in the Texas Criminal Defense Lawyer's
Association or AN Y connection to them."
--Ken Pangborn in a usenet post on January 1, 2009, denying affiliation
with the TCDLA, to whom he provided bogus educational credentials. His lie
is disproved here: http://web.archive.org/web/20060822021821/www.tcdla.com/secu re/experts/inde
x.shtml
"Some photo of some girl without even any documentation on THAT only proves
that YOU are a PSYCHO! A really STUPID one at that!"
--Ken Pangborn, admitting to being a "stupid" "psycho" in message-ID
<jOp3l.292$Es4.229@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>
"The FACT is that [my mail-order wife Barbara Sanciprian] and I were
introduced in the FORMAL Spanish tradition by mutual friends, and were
married first in Cuba after 2 year courtship."
--Ken Pangborn, admitting that he began cheating on his wife Peggy on
September 28, 2001, nearly two years before she separated from him
"I'm David Moore and I am insane!"
--Ken Pangborn posting to alt.dads-rights.unmoderated, attempting to claim
that his name is David Moore
"If you call the police, I'll knock out all of your teeth, I'll cripple
you. I may go to prison for it, but when I get out, I'll be able to walk,
but you will still be a cripple."
--Pangborn puppet Greg Hanson of alt.support.child-protective-services **,
in a verbal threat to his girlfriend
** - this conclusion was reached via applying Ken and Greg's logic
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>>>>>neither is your fairy buddy Moore. But you two are terribly strident with
>>>>>your claims that the photos ARE faked.
>>>>
>>>> I've made no such claim.
>>>
>>> Let's see if we understand each other, now you are admitting they are
>>>most likely genuine!
>>
>> As I stated, and you dishonestly snipped, I believe they are fake.
>>This is a long way from the bogus FACT CLAIM you mistakenly assign me.
>
>I share the same opinion, although I've never even looked at the scans in
>question closely. As several people with knowledge of Photoshop stated
>that they were fakes, it's reasonable to assume so.
>
>Keep in mind, these people were complete strangers, and would have had no
>motive to discredit Ken. There's also the fact that HE asked for their
>opinions, then turned on them when they didn't tell him what they wanted to
>hear.
Ken sought them out as quasi-experts. At the very least he
hoped their learned opinion would support him.
They concluded the images were fake.
>
>What it comes down to is, do we believe several people who would have no
>reason to lie, or one person who has been proven to lie?
I go with the several people with no reason to lie.
Such people often make Pangborn look the fool.
"I am insane!"
--Kenneth Robert Pangborn, of KRP Consulting and The A-team,
posting to alt.dads-rights.unmoderated claiming that he was found
legally insane.
On Sun, 8 Nov 2009, krp <krp21@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>"Greegor" <greegor47@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:129cdcd8-c2b5-4da9-a286-6eb2dabc6ce3@d21g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>
>>I don't think Kent really believes what he says.
>
> Greg, he just DEMANDS that everyone else BELIEVES what he claims. Note
>for the record he will NOT come close to justifying his claims nor will he
>stop making the claim that the photos are FAKED!
Talking to yourself again?
Several people with Photoshop knowledge stated that your scans were obvious
fakes.
New taglines and keywords for you below....search engine fodder ROFL:
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one DESPICABLE CUNT!!!! ....Bitch you are GUTTER SLIME!"
--Kenneth Pangborn, from a usenet argument with a female debator,
highlighting his typical views on women
"Rumors about ken are true, he is a bad man. That is why both my mother and
I ran out of there as fast as we could back in the late summer of 2002. He
ruined my life and my moms life....His business is a scam, as he is in the
rest of his life. He enjoys child pornography and was investigated for that
as well....he'll call my mom 20 times a day until she answers...[Ken's
sister-in-law Rebecca Reilly] wouldnt come over to our house anymore
because of how he would talk to her and come on to her....and he had over
180 pictures of her on his computer"
--Ken Pangborn's daughter Megan
"Blood, breath or urine?"
--question to Ken Pangborn from a Florida police officer in November 2008,
during a traffic stop from which Pangborn was subsequently charged with
DUI**
"...beating [some kids] into a bloody pulp is the ONLY thing
that would get through to them."
--Ken Pangborn on child rearing
"If you call the police, I'll knock out all of your teeth, I'll cripple
you. I may go to prison for it, but when I get out, I'll be able to walk,
but you will still be a cripple."
--Pangborn puppet Greg Hanson of alt.support.child-protective-services **,
in a verbal threat to his girlfriend
** - this conclusion was reached via applying Ken and Greg's logic
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On Nov 8, 8:55 pm, freedom <aboutKRP...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com>
wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009, krp <kr...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> >"Greegor" <greego...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:129cdcd8-c2b5-4da9-a286-6eb2dabc6ce3@d21g2000yqn.googlegroups.com....
>
> >>I don't think Kent really believes what he says.
>
> > Greg, he just DEMANDS that everyone else BELIEVES what he claims.. Note
> >for the record he will NOT come close to justifying his claims nor will he
> >stop making the claim that the photos are FAKED!
>
> Talking to yourself again?
>
> Several people with Photoshop knowledge stated that your scans were obvious
> fakes.
>
> New taglines and keywords for you below....search engine fodder ROFL:
>
> http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
> The truth about Kenneth Pangborn of KRP Consulting, 3648 Cockatoo Drive,
> New Port Richey, Florida
>
> "Carol Ann you don't KNOW shit! Youy are LYING! ...... Jesus Christ you are
> one DESPICABLE CUNT!!!! ....Bitch you are GUTTER SLIME!"
> --Kenneth Pangborn, from a usenet argument with a female debator,
> highlighting his typical views on women
>
> "Rumors about ken are true, he is a bad man. That is why both my mother and
> I ran out of there as fast as we could back in the late summer of 2002. He
> ruined my life and my moms life....His business is a scam, as he is in the
> rest of his life. He enjoys child pornography and was investigated for that
> as well....he'll call my mom 20 times a day until she answers...[Ken's
> sister-in-law Rebecca Reilly] wouldnt come over to our house anymore
> because of how he would talk to her and come on to her....and he had over
> 180 pictures of her on his computer"
> --Ken Pangborn's daughter Megan
>
> "Blood, breath or urine?"
> --question to Ken Pangborn from a Florida police officer in November 2008,
> during a traffic stop from which Pangborn was subsequently charged with
> DUI**
>
> "...beating [some kids] into a bloody pulp is the ONLY thing
> that would get through to them."
> --Ken Pangborn on child rearing
>
> "If you call the police, I'll knock out all of your teeth, I'll cripple
> you. I may go to prison for it, but when I get out, I'll be able to walk,
> but you will still be a cripple."
> --Pangborn puppet Greg Hanson of alt.support.child-protective-services **,
> in a verbal threat to his girlfriend
>
> ** - this conclusion was reached via applying Ken and Greg's logic
>
> Keywords: false allegations,sexual abuse,marital rape, date rape, sexual
> harassment,child abuse,domestic violence,rape allegations,false allegations
> of child abuse,false rape allegations,false abuse accusations,false
> accusations,recovered memories,child sexual abuse,abuse child,sexual
> assault,child molestation,reactive attachment disorder,penile
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> allegations, abuse child, sexual abuse, child sexual abuse, false
> allegations, false accusations, recovered memories, sexual assault, child
> molestation, child sexual abuse, reactive attachment disorder, penile
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> selection, jury voire dire, wrongful allegations, false child sexual abuse
> allegations. Wrongful child sexual abuse allegations. Domestic Violence.
> Rape. Marital rape. Date Rape. Confidence Rape.
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> sanciprian,palm harbor,tampa,attorneys,florida lawyers,florida
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> Extra-keywords: Julito Sainz,craig clawson,lia yisell
Please don't cross posts any messages to alt.support.child-protective-
services that don't have anything to do with child abuse.
> I share the same opinion, although I've never even looked at the scans in
> question closely. As several people with knowledge of Photoshop stated
> that they were fakes, it's reasonable to assume so.
Actually, Davey, by their own admissions NONE of them were really
familiar with Photoshop. None hardly even qualified as a "hobbyist." If you
follow the entire thread they admitted they were NOT proficient in Photoshop
and were just guessing, highly influenced by the CLAIM (later proven wrong)
that neither American or Continental airlines flew from the U.S. to Cuba. I
know you want to hang your hat on those things, as you can see the Photoshop
newsgroup is getting our crossposts. Maybe somebody who REALLY knows what
they are talking about could comment on the LINK provided?
>FEEBLE DAVEY MOORE
>"freedom" <aboutKRPken@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
>news:10fea275b9fd4003fd2e79fb7883dcc4@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
>
>> I share the same opinion, although I've never even looked at the scans in
>> question closely. As several people with knowledge of Photoshop stated
>> that they were fakes, it's reasonable to assume so.
>
>
> Actually, Davey, by their own admissions NONE of them were really
>familiar with Photoshop. None hardly even qualified as a "hobbyist."
Cite please. Unless, of course, you're lying.
>If you
>follow the entire thread they admitted they were NOT proficient in Photoshop
>and were just guessing, highly influenced by the CLAIM (later proven wrong)
>that neither American or Continental airlines flew from the U.S. to Cuba.
Um, they made their conclusions BEFORE the claim about air travel
to Cuba was made.
Feel free to prove your claim that it was after, unless you're
mistaken as to when what was claimed.
>I
>know you want to hang your hat on those things, as you can see the Photoshop
>newsgroup is getting our crossposts. Maybe somebody who REALLY knows what
>they are talking about could comment on the LINK provided?
>
People YOU sought as quasi-experts have already commented.
"you are reading Moore's SELECTIVE material that is HIGHLY edited."
Kenneth Robert Pangborn claiming in misc.legal that David Moore can
and does edit Google's Usenet archive.
Message-ID: <n9Sfm.1372$nh2.455@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>
POOR VICTIM DAVEY MOORE - WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!
>>>"freedom" <aboutKRPken@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
>>news:10fea275b9fd4003fd2e79fb7883dcc4@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
>>
>>> I share the same opinion, although I've never even looked at the scans
>>> in
>>> question closely. As several people with knowledge of Photoshop stated
>>> that they were fakes, it's reasonable to assume so.
>>
>>
>> Actually, Davey, by their own admissions NONE of them were really
>>familiar with Photoshop. None hardly even qualified as a "hobbyist."
>
> Cite please. Unless, of course, you're lying.
Follow the thread, there or here, I QUOTED their admissions.
>
>"Kent Wills" <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:mbbif5hrtc90ekud18ljhmucj9696a2ig0@4ax.com...
>
>POOR VICTIM DAVEY MOORE - WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!
>>>>"freedom" <aboutKRPken@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
>>>news:10fea275b9fd4003fd2e79fb7883dcc4@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
>>>
>>>> I share the same opinion, although I've never even looked at the scans
>>>> in
>>>> question closely. As several people with knowledge of Photoshop stated
>>>> that they were fakes, it's reasonable to assume so.
>>>
>>>
>>> Actually, Davey, by their own admissions NONE of them were really
>>>familiar with Photoshop. None hardly even qualified as a "hobbyist."
>>
>> Cite please. Unless, of course, you're lying.
>
>Follow the thread, there or here, I QUOTED their admissions.
Admission that you are lying accepted.
"I am insane!"
--Kenneth Robert Pangborn, of KRP Consulting and The A-team,
posting to alt.dads-rights.unmoderated claiming that he was found
legally insane.
as you can see the Photoshop
newsgroup is getting our crossposts. Maybe somebody who REALLY knows what
they are talking about could comment on the LINK provided?
NO THANKS - we wish you would take your trash talk spam fest elsewhere
WHO IS CRAZIER- the man accused as insane or the one who keeps endlessly
conversing with him?
GTFO of our NewsGroup
"krp" <krp21@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
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> FEEBLE DAVEY MOORE
> "freedom" <aboutKRPken@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
> news:10fea275b9fd4003fd2e79fb7883dcc4@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
>
>> I share the same opinion, although I've never even looked at the scans in
>> question closely. As several people with knowledge of Photoshop stated
>> that they were fakes, it's reasonable to assume so.
>
>
> Actually, Davey, by their own admissions NONE of them were really
> familiar with Photoshop. None hardly even qualified as a "hobbyist." If
> you follow the entire thread they admitted they were NOT proficient in
> Photoshop and were just guessing, highly influenced by the CLAIM (later
> proven wrong) that neither American or Continental airlines flew from the
> U.S. to Cuba. I know you want to hang your hat on those things, as you can
> see the Photoshop newsgroup is getting our crossposts. Maybe somebody who
> REALLY knows what they are talking about could comment on the LINK
> provided?
>
>
>
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:57:32 -0500, "Photoshop User"
<masqued@ball.net> wrote:
>as you can see the Photoshop
>newsgroup is getting our crossposts. Maybe somebody who REALLY knows what
>they are talking about could comment on the LINK provided?
>
>NO THANKS - we wish you would take your trash talk spam fest elsewhere
>
>WHO IS CRAZIER- the man accused as insane or the one who keeps endlessly
>conversing with him?
Pangborn isn't accused of being insane. He claimed he was found
insane.
"I am insane!"
--Kenneth Robert Pangborn, of KRP Consulting and The A-team,
posting to alt.dads-rights.unmoderated claiming that he was found
legally insane.
>>You mean the KID who CLAIMED he lived next door to the CEO of American
>>Airlines who HE SAID told him that American NEVER flew to Cuba. Except I
>>proved they did and still do almost every day. Like HIM, Davey? The photos
>>of the boarding passes, tickets, and airport stamps are still up. Please
>>FEEL FREE to do your usual yapping at to why you think they are FAKE.
> I think they're fake because SEVERAL people in the Photoshop newsgroup
> ID'ed them as fakes....not just one "kid" as you try to rant.
ONE KID, Moore. Feel free to post the Google links to show us the
SEVERAL. The ones NOT posting through anonymous remailers, that is. They are
UP Davey. http://s283.photobucket.com/albums/kk302/kenPphotos/ This is
crossposted to the PHOTOSHOP newsgroup. See Davey if you can BEG to find
anyone to agree with you that they are fakes and explain WHY they are faked.
Or HOW, that is. You KNOW they aren't faked. You just have your ass over a
crack and can't figure out how to save yourself.
On Mon, 2 Nov 2009, krp <krp21@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>DAVEY MOORE
>"freedom" <aboutKRPken@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
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>
>>>You mean the KID who CLAIMED he lived next door to the CEO of American
>>>Airlines who HE SAID told him that American NEVER flew to Cuba. Except I
>>>proved they did and still do almost every day. Like HIM, Davey? The photos
>>>of the boarding passes, tickets, and airport stamps are still up. Please
>>>FEEL FREE to do your usual yapping at to why you think they are FAKE.
>
>> I think they're fake because SEVERAL people in the Photoshop newsgroup
>> ID'ed them as fakes....not just one "kid" as you try to rant.
>
> ONE KID, Moore. Feel free to post the Google links to show us the
>SEVERAL. The ones NOT posting through anonymous remailers, that is. They are
>UP Davey. http://s283.photobucket.com/albums/kk302/kenPphotos/ This is
>crossposted to the PHOTOSHOP newsgroup. See Davey if you can BEG to find
>anyone to agree with you that they are fakes and explain WHY they are faked.
>Or HOW, that is. You KNOW they aren't faked. You just have your ass over a
>crack and can't figure out how to save yourself.
Actually, I don't give a rat's ass whether you went to Cuba or not. Nor
was I even involved in the original discussion, although you were falsely
insisting that "Robert Gautier" was me.
However, as you have again given me an open invitation to nail your fat ass
to the wall, here are posts from four different people in the thread in
question:
Message-ID: <MbMJb.45939$E17.23630@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>
"JP Kabala", posting from Verizon, which is not an anonymous remailer,
said: "The person who did the alteration didn't pay attention to paper
textures and ink properties."
Message-ID: <Xns9466B30D7CE5Fhalljmattnet@68.12.19.6>
"Farlo", posting from att.net, which is not an anonymous remailer, said:
"Yes. It is grossly obvious." in direct response to your question "HAS THAT
IMAGE BEEN [']DOCTORED['] by in PHOTOSHOP?"
Message-ID: <20040105022026.15885.00001332@mb-m21.aol.com>
"Tacit", posting from America Online, which is not an anonymous remailer,
said: "Yes. Badly." and "It's a fake. A really, really bad fake." in
response to the same question by you.
Message-ID: <4006DA4B.4070308@nospam.uk>
"Stuart", posting from Coventry University, which is not an anonymous
remailer, said: "the white continental airlines ticket is fake, then is a
large white even fill area in the middle of the ticket to the right of
name. This should be uneven if scanned properly."
And here's the link to the actual thread, for anyone who cares to verify
how badly your fat ass got nailed to the wall:
"[I have] [n]ever had [any] standing in the Texas Criminal Defense Lawyer's
Association or AN Y connection to them."
--Ken Pangborn in a usenet post on January 1, 2009, denying affiliation
with the TCDLA, to whom he provided bogus educational credentials. His lie
is disproved here: http://web.archive.org/web/20060822021821/www.tcdla.com/secu re/experts/inde
x.shtml
"Some photo of some girl without even any documentation on THAT only proves
that YOU are a PSYCHO! A really STUPID one at that!"
--Ken Pangborn, admitting to being a "stupid" "psycho" in message-ID
<jOp3l.292$Es4.229@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>
"The FACT is that [my mail-order wife Barbara Sanciprian] and I were
introduced in the FORMAL Spanish tradition by mutual friends, and were
married first in Cuba after 2 year courtship."
--Ken Pangborn, admitting that he began cheating on his wife Peggy on
September 28, 2001, nearly two years before she separated from him
"I'm David Moore and I am insane!"
--Ken Pangborn posting to alt.dads-rights.unmoderated, attempting to claim
that his name is David Moore
"If you call the police, I'll knock out all of your teeth, I'll cripple
you. I may go to prison for it, but when I get out, I'll be able to walk,
but you will still be a cripple."
--Pangborn puppet Greg Hanson of alt.support.child-protective-services **,
in a verbal threat to his girlfriend
** - this conclusion was reached via applying Ken and Greg's logic
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>DAVEY MOORE
>"freedom" <aboutKRPken@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
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>
>>>You mean the KID who CLAIMED he lived next door to the CEO of American
>>>Airlines who HE SAID told him that American NEVER flew to Cuba. Except I
>>>proved they did and still do almost every day. Like HIM, Davey? The photos
>>>of the boarding passes, tickets, and airport stamps are still up. Please
>>>FEEL FREE to do your usual yapping at to why you think they are FAKE.
>
>> I think they're fake because SEVERAL people in the Photoshop newsgroup
>> ID'ed them as fakes....not just one "kid" as you try to rant.
>
> ONE KID, Moore. Feel free to post the Google links to show us the
>SEVERAL. The ones NOT posting through anonymous remailers, that is. They are
>UP Davey. http://s283.photobucket.com/albums/kk302/kenPphotos/ This is
>crossposted to the PHOTOSHOP newsgroup. See Davey if you can BEG to find
>anyone to agree with you that they are fakes and explain WHY they are faked.
>Or HOW, that is. You KNOW they aren't faked. You just have your ass over a
>crack and can't figure out how to save yourself.
>
>
Why are you so obsessed with David's ass?
"(CONTEXT REMOVED AS TO THE BELOW CLAIM)"
Kenneth Robert Pangborn admitting he alters the context of posts
when he replies.
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