Illustrator vs Photoshop

Stuart wrote in news:ce5der$vhs$1
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How many of you use Illustrator as well as Photoshop?

Do any of you create stuff in Photoshop that you know is better suited to Illustrator because you feel more comfortable with and/or just prefer Photoshop?

The reason why I ask this is because I know there are a lot more people who know what Photoshop is than Illustrator, therefore I was wondering how many may be using it instead of Illustrator.

Stuart

I’m sure Adobe could give you exact figures if it’s that important

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No… I’m just as comfortable with either package…

In the end – does it matter? It’s the artist that makes the art – not the software…
=)

(on a sidenote – a large majority of Illustrator users are in the printing business…)

n8

How many of you use Illustrator as well as Photoshop?

Do any of you create stuff in Photoshop that you know is better suited to Illustrator because you feel more comfortable with and/or just prefer Photoshop?

The reason why I ask this is because I know there are a lot more people who know what Photoshop is than Illustrator, therefore I was wondering how many may be using it instead of Illustrator.

Stuart

Kingdom wrote:

I’m sure Adobe could give you exact figures if it’s that important

Well if that was what I was looking for then why would I post the question here…

Stuart

In article <ce5der$vhs$ says…

How many of you use Illustrator as well as Photoshop?

Do any of you create stuff in Photoshop that you know is better suited to Illustrator because you feel more comfortable with and/or just prefer Photoshop?

The reason why I ask this is because I know there are a lot more people who know what Photoshop is than Illustrator, therefore I was wondering how many may be using it instead of Illustrator.

Stuart

I spend about 95% of my time in PS, so it’s the program that I go to. If I find that there is a small task, common to both programs, I’ll stay in PS. If I have planned the work (well), and AI work is called for, that’s where I’ll start. As the two get closer together, I’ll probably do even more AI-type work in PS. And, as you assert, that is because I am more comfortable in PS, than AI.

Hunt

On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:10:16 +0100, Stuart wrote:

How many of you use Illustrator as well as Photoshop?

Do any of you create stuff in Photoshop that you know is better suited to Illustrator because you feel more comfortable with and/or just prefer Photoshop?

The reason why I ask this is because I know there are a lot more people who know what Photoshop is than Illustrator, therefore I was wondering how many may be using it instead of Illustrator.

I use both. Illustrator for vector drawings, logos, things like that.

"Stuart" wrote in message

How many of you use Illustrator as well as Photoshop?

Do any of you create stuff in Photoshop that you know is better suited to Illustrator because you feel more comfortable with and/or just prefer Photoshop?

It was that way with me for too long. I did more Vector work in PS than I should have, however I am moving more and more to Illustrator now that I have the CS Suite. There is the usual learning curve, and I truly dislike some of Illustrator’s commands/menus/proceedures. I feel they could update it along the lines of Photoshop CS and make more of us comfortable, and quite possibly sell more Illustrator licenses.

There is the usual learning curve, and I truly dislike
some of Illustrator’s commands/menus/proceedures. I feel they could update it along the lines of Photoshop CS and make more of us comfortable, and quite possibly sell more Illustrator licenses.

Illustrator and Photoshop are two entirely different programs with very different purposes. Illustrator is a vector program. It creates lines using mathmatical formula, not pixels. Photoshop’s vectors are a very poor substitute for what Illustrator does.
AI has a very steep learning curve and requires a different mindset than working with a bitmap program like Photoshop. Not everything is point and click.
AI’s commands are very similar/identical to commands used in InDesign.

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On 27 Jul 2004 18:27:46 GMT, (LauraK) wrote:

Illustrator is a vector program. It creates lines using
mathmatical formula, not pixels.

No shit.

Not everything is point and
click.

Not much of what I do in PS is point and click either.

AI has a very steep learning curve and requires a different mindset than working with a bitmap program like Photoshop.

No, normal learning curve, and no different mindset. But thanks for feeling special, even if for but a moment.

How many of you use Illustrator as well as Photoshop?

I’ve used Photoshop since version 1.0.7 and Illustrator since Illustrator 88.

Do any of you create stuff in Photoshop that you know is better suited to Illustrator because you feel more comfortable with and/or just prefer Photoshop?

No. I use the tool most appropriate for the job.

Illustrator and Photoshop are different tools useful for different tasks. Using Photoshop instead of Illustrator is like using a screwdriver to drive nails because you’re more comfortable with screwdrivers than with hammers.

The reason why I ask this is because I know there are a lot more people who know what Photoshop is than Illustrator…

This is likely because more people know what scanned images or digital camera pictures are than know what vector images are. It shows, too–look at all the amateur graphic artists who try to design things like logos in Photoshop!

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"LauraK" wrote in message

There is the usual learning curve, and I truly dislike
some of Illustrator’s commands/menus/proceedures. I feel they could

update

it along the lines of Photoshop CS and make more of us comfortable, and quite possibly sell more Illustrator licenses.

Illustrator and Photoshop are two entirely different programs with very different purposes. Illustrator is a vector program. It creates lines

using

mathmatical formula, not pixels. […]

Well, DUH! So what if they are of a different nature. I don’t need a lecture in imaging 101. It stands that (IMHO) Illustrator could benefit a lot from some updating of its interface. It’s kludgy.

"LauraK" wrote in message

There is the usual learning curve, and I truly dislike
some of Illustrator’s commands/menus/proceedures. I feel they could

update

it along the lines of Photoshop CS and make more of us comfortable, and quite possibly sell more Illustrator licenses.

Illustrator and Photoshop are two entirely different programs with very different purposes. Illustrator is a vector program. It creates lines

using

mathmatical formula, not pixels. Photoshop’s vectors are a very poor

substitute

for what Illustrator does.
AI has a very steep learning curve and requires a different mindset than working with a bitmap program like Photoshop. Not everything is point and click.
AI’s commands are very similar/identical to commands used in InDesign.

http://www.madmousergraphics.com
web design, print design, photography

"LauraK" wrote in message

[…]
Not everything is point-and-click.
[…]

Madam, I go back to the era when we typed in graphic commands to draw a friggin circle. I could hand-code Post Script. Point-and-click your response to someone who cares.

"Stuart" wrote in message

Kingdom wrote:

I’m sure Adobe could give you exact figures if it’s that important

Well if that was what I was looking for then why would I post the question here…

Stuart

Stuuart!….
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On 7/27/04 7:10 AM, in article ce5der$vhs$, "Stuart" wrote:

How many of you use Illustrator as well as Photoshop?

Do any of you create stuff in Photoshop that you know is better suited to Illustrator because you feel more comfortable with and/or just prefer Photoshop?

The reason why I ask this is because I know there are a lot more people who know what Photoshop is than Illustrator, therefore I was wondering how many may be using it instead of Illustrator.

Stuart

I use them both in conjunction with each other. All of my cartoons are run through both programs at least once for what each has to offer. Illustrator for smoothing lines if needed, knockouts, text, combining with other cartoons, you name it.
Photoshop for cleanup of scans, coloring, resizing my web cartoons for print <G>, final output, etc.
To me, they are the same program.
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On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:10:16 +0100, Stuart wrote:

How many of you use Illustrator as well as Photoshop?

Do any of you create stuff in Photoshop that you know is better suited to Illustrator because you feel more comfortable with and/or just prefer Photoshop?

The reason why I ask this is because I know there are a lot more people who know what Photoshop is than Illustrator, therefore I was wondering how many may be using it instead of Illustrator.

Stuart

Mostly PS, but whichever is most suitable. Started using Illy a bit more since CS, but generally I’ve used Freehand or Corel for vectors.

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Phrasing?

Illustrator vs Photoshop is a subtle way to put these complimentary programs as adverseries

IMHO they ain’t enemies but part of a suite of facilities available to people

Tag in Acrobat and whad’ya get? Adobe Creative Suite <ta-daaah>

Arty

I ope this makes some sense

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"Stuart" wrote in message

How many of you use Illustrator as well as Photoshop?

Do any of you create stuff in Photoshop that you know is better suited to Illustrator because you feel more comfortable with and/or just prefer Photoshop?

The reason why I ask this is because I know there are a lot more people who know what Photoshop is than Illustrator, therefore I was wondering how many may be using it instead of Illustrator.

Stuart

"Arty Phacting" wrote in message

Phrasing?

Illustrator vs Photoshop is a subtle way to put these complimentary

programs

as adverseries

IMHO they ain’t enemies but part of a suite of facilities available to people

That’s the way I’d like to see the pair, too. To that end, a more common interface in terms of such things as layer management, measurement tools, styles, and keystrokes would be so very much appreciated.

Yeh – it’s a shame we can’t buy software as it will be in 10 years time LOL

I do not have a great deal of experience in PSCS – and none in AICS – possibly a smidgen in Acrobat and look forward to my first copy of Creative Suite (where has this stuff been all my life?)

Arts

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"Arty Phacting" wrote in message

Phrasing?

Illustrator vs Photoshop is a subtle way to put these complimentary

programs

as adverseries

IMHO they ain’t enemies but part of a suite of facilities available to people

That’s the way I’d like to see the pair, too. To that end, a more common interface in terms of such things as layer management, measurement tools, styles, and keystrokes would be so very much appreciated.

Stuart wrote:

Thanks to everyone who has replied so far, I am predominantly an Illustrator user and know exactly what each program does and when/how it should be used.

I will be teaching Illustrator in the Autumn and was looking for peoples thoughts of the program and its usage from a Photoshop users point of view.

As pointed out in a couple of replies, there are a lot of people using Photoshop instead of Illustrator. I was looking at how people using Photoshop perceive Illustrator so I could try and bring the course to the attention of those people who should be using it but use Photoshop instead.

Stuart

"Stuart" wrote in message

How many of you use Illustrator as well as Photoshop?

I occasionally have to resort to AI. Hate it.

Do any of you create stuff in Photoshop that you know is better suited to Illustrator because you feel more comfortable with and/or just prefer Photoshop?

Guilty.

The reason why I ask this is because I know there are a lot more people who know what Photoshop is than Illustrator, therefore I was wondering how many may be using it instead of Illustrator.

Stuart

I find AI so far behind CorelDraw (no multipage documents fer cryin outloud – how do people manage?) that I alway end up going back to Corel for vector work. Perhaps because I have just never have climbed that AI learning curve and won’t until I uninstall CorelDraw – and that just ain’t gonna happen soon.

Stella

"Stuart" wrote in message

[…]
As pointed out in a couple of replies, there are a lot of people using Photoshop instead of Illustrator. I was looking at how people using Photoshop perceive Illustrator so I could try and bring the course to the attention of those people who should be using it but use Photoshop instead.

Perhaps a good demonstration would be to show a logo attempted in Photoshop and how much better it renders for professional printing and other applications when done in Illustrator vectors. Most of the misery comes from people who’s whole view of a "logo" is some kind of web represenation when, in fact, it’s a Big Deal to develop a real corporate logo. It has to work in so many mediums.

jjs wrote:

"Stuart" wrote in message

[…]
As pointed out in a couple of replies, there are a lot of people using Photoshop instead of Illustrator. I was looking at how people using Photoshop perceive Illustrator so I could try and bring the course to the attention of those people who should be using it but use Photoshop instead.

Perhaps a good demonstration would be to show a logo attempted in Photoshop and how much better it renders for professional printing and other applications when done in Illustrator vectors. Most of the misery comes from people who’s whole view of a "logo" is some kind of web represenation when, in fact, it’s a Big Deal to develop a real corporate logo. It has to work in so many mediums.

That is what I will be doing on the course but I need to get these people on it first.

Stuart

I find AI so far behind CorelDraw (no multipage documents fer cryin outloud – how do people manage?)…

Simple. Illustrator is not a page-layout program.

It’s like saying "No multipage documents in Photoshop–how do people manage?" The answer is "People manage by using the right tool for the job."

You use a hammer to drive nails, you use a screwdriver to drive screws, and you use a wrench to tighten bolts. You use Photoshop to edit raster images, Illustrator to edit vector images, and QuarkXPress or InDesign to put them together into multipage documents.

Corel is like one of those "all in one" tools you see advertised on late-night TV infomercials–it does many things, but does all of them more or less badly, and you won’t see any serious professionals using it.

In terms of actual vector images, Illustrator is so far ahead of CorelDRAW that it’s like comparing a Ferrari to a Toyota Tercel. Illustrator’s Pathfinder alone puts it head and shoulders above CorelDRAW; add to that transparency support (in spot color!–Corel lens and transparency effects turn spot colors to process), better PostScript output, and so on, and you’ll see why Corel is an also-ran in the world of professional design, even though it’s far cheaper.

Pros don’t use Illustrator because they love throwing away tons of money on inferior tools; pros use Illustrator because it’s more powerful and it works better.

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On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 11:01:54 -0400, "Black Dog" wrote:

"Stuart" wrote in message

How many of you use Illustrator as well as Photoshop?

I occasionally have to resort to AI. Hate it.

Do any of you create stuff in Photoshop that you know is better suited to Illustrator because you feel more comfortable with and/or just prefer Photoshop?

Guilty.

The reason why I ask this is because I know there are a lot more people who know what Photoshop is than Illustrator, therefore I was wondering how many may be using it instead of Illustrator.

Stuart

I find AI so far behind CorelDraw (no multipage documents fer cryin outloud – how do people manage?) that I alway end up going back to Corel for vector work. Perhaps because I have just never have climbed that AI learning curve and won’t until I uninstall CorelDraw – and that just ain’t gonna happen soon.

I’ve had three printers tell me their rips had a difficult time with CorelDraw files, and to avoid it, if i could.

I used CorelDraw 8 for a good bit, and it does have some nice features, but, the one feature it does not have, is worldwide compatibility. I can send an Illustrator file with fonts outlined to a flashlight manufacturer in Shanghai and they’ll run it. Corel, nope.

Corel 8 also ripped some seriously overly-large and convoluted EPS files. Later versions maybe be better.

"Tacit" wrote in message

You use a hammer to drive nails, you use a screwdriver to drive screws,

and you

use a wrench to tighten bolts. You use Photoshop to edit raster images, Illustrator to edit vector images, […]

A _real_ mechanic knows how to optimize; for example, a 1/2" wrench plus a #2 screwdriver makes a 3/8" wrench. The combination of just a few wrenches and two screwdrivers can make the whole set of wrenches. So, nyaaa nyaaa~

"jjs" wrote in message

"Tacit" wrote in message

A _real_ mechanic knows how to optimize; for example, a 1/2" wrench plus a #2 screwdriver makes a 3/8" wrench. The combination of just a few wrenches and two screwdrivers can make the whole set of wrenches. So, nyaaa nyaaa~

Coo-el! I am glad, really glad you did that

I was beginning to think that the %-age of posters with a sense of humour was going into decline

Nice one m8y!

Arts

On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 13:29:51 GMT, "Arty Phacting" wrote:

Yeh – it’s a shame we can’t buy software as it will be in 10 years time LOL
I do not have a great deal of experience in PSCS – and none in AICS – possibly a smidgen in Acrobat and look forward to my first copy of Creative Suite (where has this stuff been all my life?)

Arts

If you’ve used any other page layout program you’ll love InDesign. it actually works properly unlike Quark and friends 🙂

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wrote on 07/28/2004 6:34 PM:

On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 13:29:51 GMT, "Arty Phacting" wrote:

Yeh – it’s a shame we can’t buy software as it will be in 10 years time LOL
I do not have a great deal of experience in PSCS – and none in AICS – possibly a smidgen in Acrobat and look forward to my first copy of Creative Suite (where has this stuff been all my life?)

Arts

If you’ve used any other page layout program you’ll hate InDesign. it actually works worse than Quark and friends 🙂

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"howldog" wrote in message

On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 11:01:54 -0400, "Black Dog" wrote:

I’ve had three printers tell me their rips had a difficult time with CorelDraw files, and to avoid it, if i could.

I used CorelDraw 8 for a good bit, and it does have some nice features, but, the one feature it does not have, is worldwide compatibility.

Which is why I occasionally HAVE to resort to AI. But I don’t have to like it. (I feel exactly the same way about M$Word – but that wasn’t the topic of this thread)

Stella

"Tacit" wrote in message

I find AI so far behind CorelDraw (no multipage documents fer cryin outloud – how do people manage?)…

Simple. Illustrator is not a page-layout program.

Ahh, I was wondering what that InDesign thing was for.

It’s like saying "No multipage documents in Photoshop–how do people

manage?"

The answer is "People manage by using the right tool for the job."

The whole thread is a query about using the wrong tools because of comfort level. I thought someone should confess to doing so. Yes, I misuse Photoshop. And basically never use Illustrator.

Been using CorelDraw since version 1, back when Adobe just a print manager selling fonts for $200 a pop; thus the comfort level with CorelDraw (which I have always just thought of as CAD on drugs, anyway). It was the right tool to tart up my AutoCad maps at the time. And has sufficed for just about any vector graphic I have had to conjure in the intervening 14 years, which hasn’t been a lot (probably would have been a lot more if I hadn’t been abusing raster programs).

You use a hammer to drive nails, you use a screwdriver to drive screws,

and you

use a wrench to tighten bolts.

Maybe YOU do, I usually just use a rock to pound nails and butterknife for screws, I use what tools I have and am familiar with. Sure I’ll never build a house but I can hang a picture or a birdfeeder (oh oh, this analogy is getting out of hand)

<snip>

Pros don’t use Illustrator because they love throwing away tons of money

on

inferior tools; pros use Illustrator because it’s more powerful and it

works

better.

And that explains that. (Doesn’t explain why anybody uses M$Office.)

Stella

So you thought changing Hecate’s response makes you cool eh?

n8

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dave wrote in
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in article , Hecate at
wrote on 07/28/2004 6:34 PM:

On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 13:29:51 GMT, "Arty Phacting" wrote:

Yeh – it’s a shame we can’t buy software as it will be in 10 years time LOL

I do not have a great deal of experience in PSCS – and none in AICS – possibly a smidgen in Acrobat and look forward to my first copy of Creative Suite (where has this stuff been all my life?)

Arts

If you’ve used any other page layout program you’ll hate InDesign. it actually works worse than Quark and friends 🙂

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The voice of experience.

Looks more like you have a quoting comprehension problem.

Probably an offshoot of your lack of honesty problem.

"Black Dog" wrote in
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Quibble:

Been using CorelDraw since version 1, back when Adobe just a print manager selling fonts for $200 a pop;

Illustrator predates Corel Draw by several years (1985). CD *was* the first commercial program of it’s type for Windows, but Windows really wasn’t ready for pro page layout then.

A cool thing about CD is that you can import psd files and maintain the transparent backgrounds (PageMaker doesn’t even allow that!), and the type manipulation is endless.

"Eric Gill" wrote in message

"Black Dog" wrote in
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Quibble:

Been using CorelDraw since version 1, back when Adobe just a print manager selling fonts for $200 a pop;

Illustrator predates Corel Draw by several years (1985). CD *was* the

first

commercial program of it’s type for Windows, but Windows really wasn’t ready for pro page layout then.

"Jesper" wrote in
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A cool thing about CD is that you can import psd files and maintain the transparent backgrounds (PageMaker doesn’t even allow that!)

Not surprising, since it hasn’t been updated in years, and probably never will be again.

InDesign allows it. So does Illustrator. Also works quite well with Acrobat files.

There is even a third-party XTension for Quark Xpress that will allow you to work with the layers in an imported PSD file.

, and
the type manipulation is endless.

As long as you are looking for logo and headline-style manipulations, I’ll agree. Things like the stretchable leading and kerning are great time- savers.

But for overall document typography, it’s pretty weak. It wasn’t until version 12 that they added even basic Unicode support. Again, this is fine as long as you’re using it as a Draw type program and not a page layout proggie.

"Eric Gill" wrote in message

But for overall document typography, it’s pretty weak. It wasn’t until version 12 that they added even basic Unicode support. Again, this is fine as long as you’re using it as a Draw type program and not a page layout proggie.

I agree 100%. The word processing is it’s one weak point. Another thing I like about it is it really has a great export to pdf system that makes it instantly perfect for straight to the publisher ad design.

A cool thing about CD is that you can import psd files and maintain the transparent backgrounds (PageMaker doesn’t even allow that!)…

Well, of course PageMaker doesn’t allow it; PageMaker is an end-of-life program that’s been discontinued.

Illustrator allows placing a transparent .PSD file; so does InDesign.

The thing that sucks about Corel’s handling of transparent Photoshop files is that any spot color object that touches the Photoshop image gets converted to process, and any vector object that touches the Photoshop image gets rasterized. It looks great on your screen, so you can go "Ooh! Aah! How pretty!" and print it to your desktop inkjet printer, but those "Ooh! Aah!" transparency effects that look so snazzy on your screen don’t work well on press. Illusrator, of course, doesn’t have these problems, as Illustrator was designed and built for getting things to press.

and the type
manipulation is endless.

You say that like it’s a good thing. Personally, I blame Corel for the fact that quality typography is about as common these days as a snowman in the Phillipines; CorelDRAW, with its easy "mash, distort, and otherwise mangle type" functions has done for typesetting what Jonestown did for Kool-Aid. Nobody these days even knows what good typesetting looks like any more.

Illustrator and InDesign both offer typesetting capabilities so vastly superior to Corel’s that it’s rather like comparing a meal at Wolfgang Puck’s restaurant to a meal at Taco Bell. Show a person off the street a headline set in Corel and the same headline set in Illustrator, he’ll probably prefer the one set in Illustrator, even if he can’t explain why. (It’s all about the letterspacing, baby!)

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"Tacit" wrote in message

A cool thing about CD is that you can import psd files and maintain the transparent backgrounds (PageMaker doesn’t even allow that!)…

Well, of course PageMaker doesn’t allow it; PageMaker is an end-of-life

program

that’s been discontinued.

Not. PageMaker is still offered.
http://www.adobe.com/products/pagemaker/main.html

Maybe Adobe sees it as the Elements of InDesign?

Well, of course PageMaker doesn’t allow it; PageMaker is an end-of-life

program

that’s been discontinued.

Not. PageMaker is still offered.

Yes, it’s still available for sale. However, it’s end-of-life; it’s not being developed any further, and hasn’t been developed for quite some time.

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Spoken like a true Adobe fan!
Ads I design with CD, converted to hi-res pdf files
look great. Some functions like CD’s drop shadow and fill’s are a bit suspect, nut the overall usability and quality is just fine. I design ads in both Ps and CD as needed and have had great success with both.

"Tacit" wrote in message

A cool thing about CD is that you can import psd files and maintain the transparent backgrounds (PageMaker doesn’t even allow that!)…

Well, of course PageMaker doesn’t allow it; PageMaker is an end-of-life

program

that’s been discontinued.

Illustrator allows placing a transparent .PSD file; so does InDesign.
The thing that sucks about Corel’s handling of transparent Photoshop files

is

that any spot color object that touches the Photoshop image gets converted

to

process, and any vector object that touches the Photoshop image gets rasterized. It looks great on your screen, so you can go "Ooh! Aah! How pretty!" and print it to your desktop inkjet printer, but those "Ooh!

Aah!"

transparency effects that look so snazzy on your screen don’t work well on press. Illusrator, of course, doesn’t have these problems, as Illustrator

was

designed and built for getting things to press.

and the type
manipulation is endless.

You say that like it’s a good thing. Personally, I blame Corel for the

fact

that quality typography is about as common these days as a snowman in the Phillipines; CorelDRAW, with its easy "mash, distort, and otherwise mangle type" functions has done for typesetting what Jonestown did for Kool-Aid. Nobody these days even knows what good typesetting looks like any more.
Illustrator and InDesign both offer typesetting capabilities so vastly

superior

to Corel’s that it’s rather like comparing a meal at Wolfgang Puck’s

restaurant

to a meal at Taco Bell. Show a person off the street a headline set in

Corel

and the same headline set in Illustrator, he’ll probably prefer the one

set in

Illustrator, even if he can’t explain why. (It’s all about the

letterspacing,

baby!)

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(Tacit) wrote:

You say that like it’s a good thing. Personally, I blame Corel for the fact that quality typography is about as common these days as a snowman in the Phillipines; CorelDRAW, with its easy "mash, distort, and otherwise mangle type" functions has done for typesetting what Jonestown did for Kool-Aid. Nobody these days even knows what good typesetting looks like any more.

Ironically enough, the lack of a horizontal-scale or ‘set width’ spec for characters (as opposed to blocks of text) in CorelDraw is defended on the grounds of preserving font designers’ intentions yet, as you say, Corel users seem particularly fond of stretching and squeezing text into forms that are impossible to match — the program will only report the ‘nominal’ character size & leading specs as if no distortion had been applied.

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Odysseus

Ads I design with CD, converted to hi-res pdf files
look great.

Have you tried using Corel’s transparency with spot colors?

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Illustrator is good (better) for drawing. All the rest I do with Photoshop!

"Stuart" schreef in bericht

How many of you use Illustrator as well as Photoshop?

Do any of you create stuff in Photoshop that you know is better suited to Illustrator because you feel more comfortable with and/or just prefer Photoshop?

The reason why I ask this is because I know there are a lot more people who know what Photoshop is than Illustrator, therefore I was wondering how many may be using it instead of Illustrator.

Stuart

I also use photoshop and illustrator so much.so times I prefer doing the paths in psd and export them to AI, especially when when am redrawing jpeg logos.
One thing I dont like about the new AI is that when i copy a vector from ai to psd it does give me an option of pasting as path,shape layer or pixels anymore.this limits my interaction between AI and psd ’cause sometimes I can work with paths from ai to psd continuosly shifting.