You can have one of two cursors – either the Precise or the Tool-associated cursor. Toggling the Caps Lock will toggle the cursor. You cannot have the solid-arrow cursor with the magnetic lasso
But I do get the arrow as explained above, I just want to keep it. Surly I can do that, right?
Adapt your work habits to the tool, rather than wishing for the converse.
If it’s something you MUST have, make it known in the feature request section of the forum.
Do you belive that I can cut with an arrow cursor and magnetic lasso?
To what end, would posting in the feature request,lead? I can’ find this section. The tool is already there, all I need from you, is a way to keep it all the time. That information must be available, right?
here’s the features request forum (it’s at the top of this forum list, unless you’re using a newsreader, then it’s a seperate subscription):
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to what end? to let the programmers know that you’d like that change made to the program. it doesn’t work the way you want it to now, so you request it as a feature. it seems like a good system as a lot of things that are in cs seem to have come almost diretly from the features request forum (customizable hot-keys for one).
To nvslater:
Using the Arrow cursor with the magnetic lasso tool is bug in Photoshop, I believe. This is why:
1. The way it currently works is not very useful.
2. It keeps reverting back to the magnet when you’re done cutting.
3. People here keep telling you "You cannot have the solid-arrow cursor with the magnetic lasso", because it’s not supposed to work that way. I don’t think most people are aware of the bug.
They’re refering to the Feature Request forum becuase currently it’s a bug, so you can go to that forum to request it to be fixed and turned into a real feature.
To others:
Nvslater is refering to a bug in Photoshop 7 where if you’re using the magnetic lasso, and you move the cursor outside the document and click on the background workspace of Photoshop, your cursor will change to the Arrow, then you can move back into the document and continue to select using the magnetic lasso but now with Arrow as a cursor. The problem is if you’re trying to select something in the middle of your document, you end up messing up your selection to do this, since you have to basically draw a selection out to the edge of your document.
My guess is s/he’s not aware it’s a bug, so he’s assuming there must be a way to set it that way perminently.
~Hanford
Wow…interesting "bug". Having now tried it, I can see why it would be preferable – the magnetic lasso tool icon is an odd shape to "draw" with, and having the selection line "pour" out of the tip of the arrow cursor is more intuitive. That said, the magnetic lasso is one of the top five least useful tools in the kit, in my opinion – right in there with the notes tool.
BTW, did Adobe do anything with the notes tool in version 8, or does it still waste space on the tool bar?
To hanford lemoore; Can you find a work around?
To dennis johson; i find it easier to color a picture,or restore for that matter, if it is in segments. That’s why I use the magnic lasso. Some of my old pictures are so faided, that it is hard to find edges,but once found and separated, the rest is easy. Therefore this tool is of the upmost value.
Handford,
I cannot reproduce the behaviour you describe at all – which suggests it may be video card/driver related. Can you reproduce it if you turn down hardware accelleration to zero?
Len,
The behavior is easily duplicated. Open an image. Select the magnetic lasso tool. Begin "drawing" with it in your image. Without "committing" the selection, move your cursor outside the image area and left-click once in the workspace outside your image (or tap once if you’re using a Wacom). The cursor changes to the arrow cursor. Move the cursor back over your image and it retains the arrow cursor shape, but continues to behave as the magnetic lasso.
This doesn’t seem to be a vidcard issue.
Dennis,
And why would anyone move outside the image window ONCE THEY HAD STARTED "TRACING" ? It will leave stray anchor points…….
It is not a desirable way of doing things. But can be done if part of the image is already removed. Besides that is why I wanted it all the time.
Doesn’t seem to be anybody home at the features request forum. No response from request.
nvs, a feature request isn’t going to be downloaded to your system tomorrow. they need to decide if it’s worth while, then write the code for it. contrary to your belief that it’s already "in the program", it’s not. it’s a bug. there is no secret to access the cursor you want anytime you want it. it’s hard coded into the program. it will take a coding change to make it happen. if you can convince the programmers to do it. THEN, since PS CS (8) is almost ready to ship, you’re looking at at best PS 8.01 before you see any action on this.
No response from request.<<
Don’t expect one. The only response you will get is from other users either telling you they agree or that they disagree with your request.
Feature requests are ‘harvested’ by Adobe and considered, but the only time you will get any response from Adobe re a request is if one of the engineers who visit here, think that it is worth considering but requires more details.
Len Wrote:
And why would anyone move outside the image window ONCE THEY HAD STARTED"TRACING" ? It will leave stray anchor points…….
That’s this guy’s whole point, Len. He wants his cursor to be an arrow while using this tool, but the only way he can do it right now is via that bug, which leaves stray anchor points. Therefore, he’s looking for a way to change it perminently so that he does NOT get stray points. I don’t think he was aware that the behavior is a bug.
nvslater:
Here’s the only workaround I’ve found: Do it just like you do now (starting the trace, move outside the window, click, move back in). Then, once your trace is done, hold down the ALT key and de-select the stray selection. I know, I know, it’s not what you want. But it’s the only way I’ve been able to get useful results from the bug.
Hope that helps.
~Hanford
hanford;
I will try your tip. Your right, it isn’t what would be the best. Thank you for your time and for being open minded enough to look into this.
I have never been disappointed, by this forum and hopefully this issue will be resolved as well. I do restoration by cutting each piece of clothing, skin, color, etc. Make each a layer. Work on each before mergeing. THE MAGNETIC LASSO is the first tool I use. I think my time would be cut by 25%, if I had the arrow.
That said, I do thank you for your help.
