removing cropping

In article <ed6sgu$ says…

I have an image that I can’t remove the cropping from. It is cropped to a circle and I don’t want that. I am using Photoshop CS2. the image was last edited a while ago (a year or two), maybe in Corel 11, or 12, maybe in Photoshop.

I don’t see any layer mask, vector or raster. There is only the one layer.
I don’t see any channels that might be doing it. there are only 4 showing 1 RGB, R, G, B. It is a 24 bit RGB file.

There are no paths.

In adobe bridge I see the full image with a circle at the crop boundary. If I insert the file into Illustrator I see the full image with a circle at the crop boundary. In Photoshop what shows up is the full image size, but it is transparent outside of the circle.

How can I remove the cropping?

Thanks for any suggestion.

What format is the image file – EPS, TIFF, PSD? Look in the Paths Palette. I would bet that you have a Clipping Path. With a Copy of the image, go to the Paths Palette, and remove any Paths that you find. One should be a circle. Save_As (rename the file, so that you still have the original safe).

Hunt

The file is in PSD format. There are no paths. I tried renaming. Saving to different formats, and trying to find the crop. The only thing I was able to do was make it so when it was brought into illustrator, the image is cropped to the circle. Not what I wanted but different.

The mysterious crop circle.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Robert

"Hunt" wrote in message

In article <ed6sgu$
says…

I have an image that I can’t remove the cropping from. It is cropped to a circle and I don’t want that. I am using Photoshop CS2. the image was last
edited a while ago (a year or two), maybe in Corel 11, or 12, maybe in Photoshop.

I don’t see any layer mask, vector or raster. There is only the one layer.

I don’t see any channels that might be doing it. there are only 4 showing 1
RGB, R, G, B. It is a 24 bit RGB file.

There are no paths.

In adobe bridge I see the full image with a circle at the crop boundary. If
I insert the file into Illustrator I see the full image with a circle at the
crop boundary. In Photoshop what shows up is the full image size, but it is
transparent outside of the circle.

How can I remove the cropping?

Thanks for any suggestion.

What format is the image file – EPS, TIFF, PSD? Look in the Paths Palette. I
would bet that you have a Clipping Path. With a Copy of the image, go to the
Paths Palette, and remove any Paths that you find. One should be a circle. Save_As (rename the file, so that you still have the original safe).
Hunt

Robert wrote:

The file is in PSD format. There are no paths. I tried renaming. Saving to different formats, and trying to find the crop. The only thing I was able to do was make it so when it was brought into illustrator, the image is cropped to the circle. Not what I wanted but different.
The mysterious crop circle.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Robert

"Hunt" wrote in message

In article <ed6sgu$
says…

I have an image that I can’t remove the cropping from. It is cropped to a circle and I don’t want that. I am using Photoshop CS2. the image was last
edited a while ago (a year or two), maybe in Corel 11, or 12, maybe in Photoshop.

I don’t see any layer mask, vector or raster. There is only the one layer.

I don’t see any channels that might be doing it. there are only 4 showing 1
RGB, R, G, B. It is a 24 bit RGB file.

There are no paths.

In adobe bridge I see the full image with a circle at the crop boundary. If
I insert the file into Illustrator I see the full image with a circle at the
crop boundary. In Photoshop what shows up is the full image size, but it is
transparent outside of the circle.

How can I remove the cropping?

Thanks for any suggestion.

What format is the image file – EPS, TIFF, PSD? Look in the Paths Palette. I
would bet that you have a Clipping Path. With a Copy of the image, go to the
Paths Palette, and remove any Paths that you find. One should be a circle. Save_As (rename the file, so that you still have the original safe).
Hunt

If it’s been in Corel Draw, it may have been PowerClipped. Effectively, you create a vector shape over the bitmap, then with the bitmap selected you Place the image into a container (the vector shape). Everything outside of the vector disappears – but it’s still there. You just can’t see it / print it any more.

The reversal is to Extract from Container. You can then throw away the container and you’ve got your bitmap back.

I don’t know if this is your problem, but it’s a possibility…

It was not edited in corel Draw, but maybe corel paint.

I don’t understand what you mean by Container? are you refering to "OLE container" Isn’t that only on the receiving end of the ole? I will look more into that but I don’t think that is what you are meaning.

How else are images cropped in photoshop? How can I remove them?

thanks again for any clues.
Robert

"GordonG" wrote in message

Robert wrote:

The file is in PSD format. There are no paths. I tried renaming. Saving to different formats, and trying to find the crop. The only thing I was able to do was make it so when it was brought into illustrator, the image is cropped to the circle. Not what I wanted but different.
The mysterious crop circle.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Robert

"Hunt" wrote in message

In article <ed6sgu$
says…

I have an image that I can’t remove the cropping from. It is cropped to a
circle and I don’t want that. I am using Photoshop CS2. the image was last
edited a while ago (a year or two), maybe in Corel 11, or 12, maybe in Photoshop.

I don’t see any layer mask, vector or raster. There is only the one layer.

I don’t see any channels that might be doing it. there are only 4 showing 1
RGB, R, G, B. It is a 24 bit RGB file.

There are no paths.

In adobe bridge I see the full image with a circle at the crop boundary. If
I insert the file into Illustrator I see the full image with a circle at the
crop boundary. In Photoshop what shows up is the full image size, but it is
transparent outside of the circle.

How can I remove the cropping?

Thanks for any suggestion.

What format is the image file – EPS, TIFF, PSD? Look in the Paths Palette. I
would bet that you have a Clipping Path. With a Copy of the image, go to the
Paths Palette, and remove any Paths that you find. One should be a circle.
Save_As (rename the file, so that you still have the original safe).
Hunt

If it’s been in Corel Draw, it may have been PowerClipped. Effectively, you create a vector shape over the bitmap, then with the bitmap selected you Place the image into a container (the vector shape). Everything outside of the vector disappears – but it’s still there. You just can’t see it / print it any more.

The reversal is to Extract from Container. You can then throw away the container and you’ve got your bitmap back.

I don’t know if this is your problem, but it’s a possibility…

"Robert" wrote in message

It was not edited in corel Draw, but maybe corel paint.

I don’t understand what you mean by Container? are you refering to "OLE container" Isn’t that only on the receiving end of the ole? I will look more into that but I don’t think that is what you are meaning.
How else are images cropped in photoshop? How can I remove them?
thanks again for any clues.
Robert

"GordonG" wrote in message

Robert wrote:

The file is in PSD format. There are no paths. I tried renaming. Saving to different formats, and trying to find the crop. The only thing I was able to do was make it so when it was brought into illustrator, the image is cropped to the circle. Not what I wanted but different.

The mysterious crop circle.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Robert

"Hunt" wrote in message

In article <ed6sgu$
says…

I have an image that I can’t remove the cropping from. It is cropped to a
circle and I don’t want that. I am using Photoshop CS2. the image was last
edited a while ago (a year or two), maybe in Corel 11, or 12, maybe in Photoshop.

I don’t see any layer mask, vector or raster. There is only the one layer.

I don’t see any channels that might be doing it. there are only 4 showing 1
RGB, R, G, B. It is a 24 bit RGB file.

There are no paths.

In adobe bridge I see the full image with a circle at the crop boundary. If
I insert the file into Illustrator I see the full image with a circle at the
crop boundary. In Photoshop what shows up is the full image size, but it is
transparent outside of the circle.

How can I remove the cropping?

Thanks for any suggestion.

What format is the image file – EPS, TIFF, PSD? Look in the Paths Palette. I
would bet that you have a Clipping Path. With a Copy of the image, go to the
Paths Palette, and remove any Paths that you find. One should be a circle.
Save_As (rename the file, so that you still have the original safe).
Hunt

If it’s been in Corel Draw, it may have been PowerClipped. Effectively, you create a vector shape over the bitmap, then with the bitmap selected you Place the image into a container (the vector shape). Everything outside of the vector disappears – but it’s still there. You just can’t see it / print it any more.

The reversal is to Extract from Container. You can then throw away the container and you’ve got your bitmap back.

I don’t know if this is your problem, but it’s a possibility…

In PS if you cropped and saved it that way it’s not retrievable. Essentially you have thrown away the rest.
the pixels outside the image circle are white or whatever, nothing is under them.

I know the data is there. When I insert the file in illustrator, I see the rest of the image but with a white circle where the cropping occurs in Photoshop. For this particular image I found an older, un color corrected file, so it is not worth painting out the white line. It has become a learning example. I have seen other files that are this way and would like to find how to correct the problem when the pressure is not critical. I have seen 3 other files in the past year like this.

Depending on how it is cropped it may not eliminate the underlying data. I am calling it cropping, Photoshop calls it other terms, but the affect is defining what part of the image is seen. Each way of "cropping" has it plus and minuses. The ways I know how to "crop" an raster image are:

Vector layer mask,
Raster layer mask,
There are some ways of doing this with an alpha channel. There are some ways of cropping with the current selection. (a version of channels)
I don’t know what you call it when one layer masks another. The crop tool

I don’t see any paths, so I am thinking it is not a vector mask. I don’t see any extra channels. so I don’t think it is a raster layer mask, or an alpha channel.
I have tried deselecting, and also I don’t see any channels for the selection method.
there is only one layer so it can’t be only showing the other layer area. the Crop tool is only for a rectangular area. It is also destructive and eliminates the pixels.

what am I missing? What is causing this? What other ways are there to "crop" an image?

It could be the remnants of a corrupted file, some path or layer that is not showing as such. If this is the case, how do I recover?

Thanks again for any clues to the crop circles.

Robert

"KatWoman" wrote in message

"Robert" wrote in message

It was not edited in corel Draw, but maybe corel paint.

I don’t understand what you mean by Container? are you refering to "OLE container" Isn’t that only on the receiving end of the ole? I will look more into that but I don’t think that is what you are meaning.
How else are images cropped in photoshop? How can I remove them?
thanks again for any clues.
Robert

"GordonG" wrote in message

Robert wrote:

The file is in PSD format. There are no paths. I tried renaming. Saving to different formats, and trying to find the crop. The only thing I was able to do was make it so when it was brought into illustrator, the image is cropped to the circle. Not what I wanted but different.

The mysterious crop circle.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Robert

"Hunt" wrote in message

In article <ed6sgu$
says…

I have an image that I can’t remove the cropping from. It is cropped to a
circle and I don’t want that. I am using Photoshop CS2. the image was last
edited a while ago (a year or two), maybe in Corel 11, or 12, maybe in
Photoshop.

I don’t see any layer mask, vector or raster. There is only the one layer.

I don’t see any channels that might be doing it. there are only 4 showing 1
RGB, R, G, B. It is a 24 bit RGB file.

There are no paths.

In adobe bridge I see the full image with a circle at the crop boundary. If
I insert the file into Illustrator I see the full image with a circle at the
crop boundary. In Photoshop what shows up is the full image size, but it is
transparent outside of the circle.

How can I remove the cropping?

Thanks for any suggestion.

What format is the image file – EPS, TIFF, PSD? Look in the Paths Palette. I
would bet that you have a Clipping Path. With a Copy of the image, go to the
Paths Palette, and remove any Paths that you find. One should be a circle.
Save_As (rename the file, so that you still have the original safe).
Hunt

If it’s been in Corel Draw, it may have been PowerClipped. Effectively, you create a vector shape over the bitmap, then with the bitmap selected you Place the image into a container (the vector shape). Everything outside of the vector disappears – but it’s still there. You just can’t see it / print it any more.

The reversal is to Extract from Container. You can then throw away the container and you’ve got your bitmap back.

I don’t know if this is your problem, but it’s a possibility…

In PS if you cropped and saved it that way it’s not retrievable. Essentially you have thrown away the rest.
the pixels outside the image circle are white or whatever, nothing is under them.

On 01 Sep 2006 20:25:43 EDT, "Robert" wrote:

I know the data is there. When I insert the file in illustrator, I see the rest of the image but with a white circle where the cropping occurs in Photoshop. For this particular image I found an older, un color corrected file, so it is not worth painting out the white line. It has become a learning example. I have seen other files that are this way and would like to find how to correct the problem when the pressure is not critical. I have seen 3 other files in the past year like this.

Depending on how it is cropped it may not eliminate the underlying data. I am calling it cropping, Photoshop calls it other terms, but the affect is defining what part of the image is seen. Each way of "cropping" has it plus and minuses. The ways I know how to "crop" an raster image are:
Vector layer mask,
Raster layer mask,
There are some ways of doing this with an alpha channel. There are some ways of cropping with the current selection. (a version of channels)
I don’t know what you call it when one layer masks another. The crop tool

I don’t see any paths, so I am thinking it is not a vector mask. I don’t see any extra channels. so I don’t think it is a raster layer mask, or an alpha channel.
I have tried deselecting, and also I don’t see any channels for the selection method.
there is only one layer so it can’t be only showing the other layer area. the Crop tool is only for a rectangular area. It is also destructive and eliminates the pixels.

what am I missing? What is causing this? What other ways are there to "crop" an image?

It could be the remnants of a corrupted file, some path or layer that is not showing as such. If this is the case, how do I recover?
Thanks again for any clues to the crop circles.

Robert

I know this doesn’t help, but I used to see that in GIF files years ago. In the days when computers were slow and you could watch a GIF being opened draw very slowly. I’d seen it many times, but for example in one case I had a woman as a joke send me a picture of herself, but she put black bars over her bare boobs and a circle over her face. She said something like, "Here is the topless picture I promised you." Long story, it was a joke. I could load a GIF like that on my slowest system, a 286, and it would open so slowly you would see the unedited picture and then the overlays would then draw last. They had to have just been added to the end of the file. I don’t know if they still work that way or if it was what was used to save them that did that. A quick finger on the Print Screen key captured the picture to the clipboard before the overlays were drawn. I gave her a major shock with a return GIF, an explanation how I got it and a promise never to reveal that picture to anyone.

One has to be careful.

—
FredEx

In article <edaj27$ says…

I know the data is there. When I insert the file in illustrator, I see the rest of the image but with a white circle where the cropping occurs in Photoshop. For this particular image I found an older, un color corrected file, so it is not worth painting out the white line. It has become a learning example. I have seen other files that are this way and would like to find how to correct the problem when the pressure is not critical. I have seen 3 other files in the past year like this.

Depending on how it is cropped it may not eliminate the underlying data. I am calling it cropping, Photoshop calls it other terms, but the affect is defining what part of the image is seen. Each way of "cropping" has it plus and minuses. The ways I know how to "crop" an raster image are:
Vector layer mask,
Raster layer mask,
There are some ways of doing this with an alpha channel. There are some ways of cropping with the current selection. (a version of channels)
I don’t know what you call it when one layer masks another. The crop tool

I don’t see any paths, so I am thinking it is not a vector mask. I don’t see any extra channels. so I don’t think it is a raster layer mask, or an alpha channel.
I have tried deselecting, and also I don’t see any channels for the selection method.
there is only one layer so it can’t be only showing the other layer area. the Crop tool is only for a rectangular area. It is also destructive and eliminates the pixels.

what am I missing? What is causing this? What other ways are there to "crop" an image?

It could be the remnants of a corrupted file, some path or layer that is not showing as such. If this is the case, how do I recover?
Thanks again for any clues to the crop circles.

Robert

Robert,

Just guessing here, so bare with me. If the image was Saveed with Preview checked, then some sort of Masking was done, the image Flattened and Saved, but without Preview, the old preview,i.e. thumbnail, could still be attached to the file, even though operations were performed along the way. I cannot think of any other situation, that would yield a thumbnail of the full image, but then Mask out part of it – based on the info that you have provided.

Hunt

The thumbnail theory does not make since to me. Isn’t the thumbnail a small low res version that is saved within the main file? When the file is inserted into illustrator it is the full res. with a circle, not cropped. When viewed in photoshop it is cropped to the circle. If I save the file in some other formats, it inserts into illistrator as cropped.

Good theory.

I wish adobe had a more comprehensive index for there help files. Most of the time they use there terms. For example in this case, I would call this a "crop". But adobe calls it a "mask". when I am trying to find a solution to the problem. I don’t know what I am looking for. It is frustrating to know a function is there, but not be able to find it. I understand how adobe should be consistant with what they call it. I wish they would go through some of the other programs and basicly add to the keywords in there index.

Robert

"Hunt" wrote in message

In article <edaj27$
says…

I know the data is there. When I insert the file in illustrator, I see the rest of the image but with a white circle where the cropping occurs in Photoshop. For this particular image I found an older, un color corrected file, so it is not worth painting out the white line. It has become a learning example. I have seen other files that are this way and would like
to find how to correct the problem when the pressure is not critical. I have seen 3 other files in the past year like this.

Depending on how it is cropped it may not eliminate the underlying data. I
am calling it cropping, Photoshop calls it other terms, but the affect is defining what part of the image is seen. Each way of "cropping" has it plus
and minuses. The ways I know how to "crop" an raster image are:
Vector layer mask,
Raster layer mask,
There are some ways of doing this with an alpha channel. There are some ways of cropping with the current selection. (a version of channels)
I don’t know what you call it when one layer masks another. The crop tool

I don’t see any paths, so I am thinking it is not a vector mask. I don’t see any extra channels. so I don’t think it is a raster layer mask,
or an alpha channel.
I have tried deselecting, and also I don’t see any channels for the selection method.
there is only one layer so it can’t be only showing the other layer area. the Crop tool is only for a rectangular area. It is also destructive and eliminates the pixels.

what am I missing? What is causing this? What other ways are there to "crop"
an image?

It could be the remnants of a corrupted file, some path or layer that is not
showing as such. If this is the case, how do I recover?
Thanks again for any clues to the crop circles.

Robert

Robert,

Just guessing here, so bare with me. If the image was Saveed with Preview checked, then some sort of Masking was done, the image Flattened and Saved,
but without Preview, the old preview,i.e. thumbnail, could still be attached
to the file, even though operations were performed along the way. I cannot think of any other situation, that would yield a thumbnail of the full image,
but then Mask out part of it – based on the info that you have provided.
Hunt

In article , says
….

The thumbnail theory does not make since to me. Isn’t the thumbnail a small low res version that is saved within the main file? When the file is inserted into illustrator it is the full res. with a circle, not cropped. When viewed in photoshop it is cropped to the circle. If I save the file in some other formats, it inserts into illistrator as cropped.
Good theory.

I wish adobe had a more comprehensive index for there help files. Most of the time they use there terms. For example in this case, I would call this a "crop". But adobe calls it a "mask". when I am trying to find a solution to the problem. I don’t know what I am looking for. It is frustrating to know a function is there, but not be able to find it. I understand how adobe should be consistant with what they call it. I wish they would go through some of the other programs and basicly add to the keywords in there index.

Robert

[SNIP]

Robert,

I feel your pain, re: the Index. I come from an advertising/photography background, with years dealing in analog printing, lab, photo work. I’ve been using PS since it first hit the PC, and still battle the Index. In this particular case, I would have called it Masked, as I tend to think of Crop only as straight-sided image reduction, a la the Crop Tool. That doesn’t help, as the next term will probably go right over my pointed, little head, as many do.

OK, so the thumbnail idea dies. Let’s look at using AI. You can open the un- masked file in AI. AI can Save_As many formats. Have you tried some of these to try and get an un-masked version?

I do not know the Corel products, only having had Corel Draw v3, and not having even used it much. I moved to Photostyler, Freehand and Illustrator, as they came out, and liked them much better. One poster made some comments about Corel, have you tried to deconstruct in either Corel Photo, or Draw? Unfortunately, I do not have all of the reply articles open right now, so I do not recall your response to that reply.

I’d be glad to take a look at the image in my programs and see what I can find – I love a good mystery. If you’d like, you can e-mail it to me at (obviously, removing the NOT from the e-dress). I can make no promises, but a little work with it, might get me to thinking about something more worthwhile than the thumbnail idea.

Good luck,
Hunt

Hunt
I tried emailing you the link but was unable. to get it through. I tried several versions without the NOT. I assume you can deal with a zip file.

"Hunt" wrote in message

In article ,
says
…

The thumbnail theory does not make since to me. Isn’t the thumbnail a small
low res version that is saved within the main file? When the file is inserted into illustrator it is the full res. with a circle, not cropped. When viewed in photoshop it is cropped to the circle. If I save the file in
some other formats, it inserts into illistrator as cropped.
Good theory.

I wish adobe had a more comprehensive index for there help files. Most of the time they use there terms. For example in this case, I would call this a
"crop". But adobe calls it a "mask". when I am trying to find a solution to the problem. I don’t know what I am looking for. It is frustrating to know a function is there, but not be able to find it. I understand how adobe should be consistant with what they call it. I wish they would go through some of the other programs and basicly add to the keywords in there
index.

Robert

[SNIP]

Robert,

I feel your pain, re: the Index. I come from an advertising/photography background, with years dealing in analog printing, lab, photo work. I’ve been
using PS since it first hit the PC, and still battle the Index. In this particular case, I would have called it Masked, as I tend to think of Crop only as straight-sided image reduction, a la the Crop Tool. That doesn’t help,
as the next term will probably go right over my pointed, little head, as many
do.

OK, so the thumbnail idea dies. Let’s look at using AI. You can open the un-
masked file in AI. AI can Save_As many formats. Have you tried some of these
to try and get an un-masked version?

I do not know the Corel products, only having had Corel Draw v3, and not having even used it much. I moved to Photostyler, Freehand and Illustrator, as
they came out, and liked them much better. One poster made some comments about
Corel, have you tried to deconstruct in either Corel Photo, or Draw? Unfortunately, I do not have all of the reply articles open right now, so I do
not recall your response to that reply.

I’d be glad to take a look at the image in my programs and see what I can find
– I love a good mystery. If you’d like, you can e-mail it to me at (obviously, removing the NOT from the e-dress). I can
make
no promises, but a little work with it, might get me to thinking about something more worthwhile than the thumbnail idea.

Good luck,
Hunt

In article <edkf4o$ says…

Hunt
I tried emailing you the link but was unable. to get it through. I tried several versions without the NOT. I assume you can deal with a zip file.
"Hunt" wrote in message

In article ,
says
…

The thumbnail theory does not make since to me. Isn’t the thumbnail a small
low res version that is saved within the main file? When the file is inserted into illustrator it is the full res. with a circle, not cropped. When viewed in photoshop it is cropped to the circle. If I save the file in
some other formats, it inserts into illistrator as cropped.
Good theory.

I wish adobe had a more comprehensive index for there help files. Most of the time they use there terms. For example in this case, I would call this a
"crop". But adobe calls it a "mask". when I am trying to find a solution to the problem. I don’t know what I am looking for. It is frustrating to know a function is there, but not be able to find it. I understand how adobe should be consistant with what they call it. I wish they would go through some of the other programs and basicly add to the keywords in there
index.

Robert

[SNIP]

Robert,

I feel your pain, re: the Index. I come from an advertising/photography background, with years dealing in analog printing, lab, photo work. I’ve been
using PS since it first hit the PC, and still battle the Index. In this particular case, I would have called it Masked, as I tend to think of Crop only as straight-sided image reduction, a la the Crop Tool. That doesn’t help,
as the next term will probably go right over my pointed, little head, as many
do.

OK, so the thumbnail idea dies. Let’s look at using AI. You can open the un-
masked file in AI. AI can Save_As many formats. Have you tried some of these
to try and get an un-masked version?

I do not know the Corel products, only having had Corel Draw v3, and not having even used it much. I moved to Photostyler, Freehand and Illustrator, as
they came out, and liked them much better. One poster made some comments about
Corel, have you tried to deconstruct in either Corel Photo, or Draw? Unfortunately, I do not have all of the reply articles open right now, so I do
not recall your response to that reply.

I’d be glad to take a look at the image in my programs and see what I can find
– I love a good mystery. If you’d like, you can e-mail it to me at (obviously, removing the NOT from the e-dress). I can
make
no promises, but a little work with it, might get me to thinking about something more worthwhile than the thumbnail idea.

Good luck,
Hunt

Robert,

ZIPs are no problem. Size really isn’t a problem. Only guess is that my anti- spam filter grabbed it, and I did not notice. Sorry. Please try again, with "[CGAP] Cropped Image" in the Subject. I should be able to see that, before MailWasher does anything funny.

Hunt

In article <ed6sgu$>,
"Robert" wrote:

I have an image that I can’t remove the cropping from. It is cropped to a circle and I don’t want that. I am using Photoshop CS2. the image was last edited a while ago (a year or two), maybe in Corel 11, or 12, maybe in Photoshop.

I don’t see any layer mask, vector or raster. There is only the one layer.

Post the .psd file on a Web site so we can take a look at it.

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you can get a copy of the file at:
www.spectrumconcepts.com\610_snap_down_356.zip
The zip file is 17mb and the PSD file is 31mb

"Hunt" wrote in message

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says…

Hunt
I tried emailing you the link but was unable. to get it through. I tried several versions without the NOT. I assume you can deal with a zip file.

"Hunt" wrote in message

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says
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The thumbnail theory does not make since to me. Isn’t the thumbnail a small
low res version that is saved within the main file? When the file is inserted into illustrator it is the full res. with a circle, not cropped.
When viewed in photoshop it is cropped to the circle. If I save the file
in
some other formats, it inserts into illistrator as cropped.
Good theory.

I wish adobe had a more comprehensive index for there help files. Most of
the time they use there terms. For example in this case, I would call this
a
"crop". But adobe calls it a "mask". when I am trying to find a solution
to the problem. I don’t know what I am looking for. It is frustrating to
know a function is there, but not be able to find it. I understand how adobe should be consistant with what they call it. I wish they would go
through some of the other programs and basicly add to the keywords in there
index.

Robert

[SNIP]

Robert,

I feel your pain, re: the Index. I come from an advertising/photography background, with years dealing in analog printing, lab, photo work. I’ve been
using PS since it first hit the PC, and still battle the Index. In this particular case, I would have called it Masked, as I tend to think of Crop
only as straight-sided image reduction, a la the Crop Tool. That doesn’t help,
as the next term will probably go right over my pointed, little head, as many
do.

OK, so the thumbnail idea dies. Let’s look at using AI. You can open the un-
masked file in AI. AI can Save_As many formats. Have you tried some of these
to try and get an un-masked version?

I do not know the Corel products, only having had Corel Draw v3, and not having even used it much. I moved to Photostyler, Freehand and Illustrator, as
they came out, and liked them much better. One poster made some comments about
Corel, have you tried to deconstruct in either Corel Photo, or Draw? Unfortunately, I do not have all of the reply articles open right now, so
I do
not recall your response to that reply.

I’d be glad to take a look at the image in my programs and see what I can
find
– I love a good mystery. If you’d like, you can e-mail it to me at (obviously, removing the NOT from the e-dress). I
can
make
no promises, but a little work with it, might get me to thinking about something more worthwhile than the thumbnail idea.

Good luck,
Hunt

Robert,

ZIPs are no problem. Size really isn’t a problem. Only guess is that my anti-
spam filter grabbed it, and I did not notice. Sorry. Please try again, with
"[CGAP] Cropped Image" in the Subject. I should be able to see that, before
MailWasher does anything funny.

Hunt

In article , says
….

you can get a copy of the file at:
www.spectrumconcepts.com\610_snap_down_356.zip
The zip file is 17mb and the PSD file is 31mb

[SNIP]

Decline,

I get a 404 on that URL. I can back up to Spectrum Concept’s Home Page, but any attempt of get to the root dir/index fail, as well. Please check the URL, that you posted and let me know if it is correct. As I just did a Crtl-c/Ctrl -v (my news reader does not directly handle HTML), I don’t think that I missed anything, and the 404 does allow me to click on the Home page as a return.

Hunt

PS we’re going to get to the bottom of this problem, even if I have to create the missing area with the danged Clone Stamp Tool!!!!

www.spectrumconcepts.com/610_snap_down-356.zip

Don’t be surprized at a long download time. It is a 17mb zip of a 31mb .PSD file. I will start a new thread in the group about what is the best file type.

I tested this link on my system. It works for me. I must have typed the last link incorrectly.

I have the original for this particular file, that is unmask. It just needed the colors tweeked. So there is no need to go to any lengths to force a recovery of the file. It is just to solve the mistory, so when we (the group) don’t have a backup, it is not a problem. Maybe understanding a better way to mask. Or a better way to interigate a file. Six months ago I had a the same problem, but no usefull backup, and becaus I was under a time crunch, I had to not use the image that was better. The file I received had the mask so I could not fall back.

Robert

"Hunt" wrote in message

In article ,
says
…

you can get a copy of the file at:
www.spectrumconcepts.com\610_snap_down_356.zip
The zip file is 17mb and the PSD file is 31mb

[SNIP]

Decline,

I get a 404 on that URL. I can back up to Spectrum Concept’s Home Page, but
any attempt of get to the root dir/index fail, as well. Please check the URL,
that you posted and let me know if it is correct. As I just did a Crtl-c/Ctrl
-v (my news reader does not directly handle HTML), I don’t think that I missed
anything, and the 404 does allow me to click on the Home page as a return.
Hunt

PS we’re going to get to the bottom of this problem, even if I have to create
the missing area with the danged Clone Stamp Tool!!!!

In article <edmr8l$ says…

www.spectrumconcepts.com/610_snap_down-356.zip

Don’t be surprized at a long download time. It is a 17mb zip of a 31mb .PSD file. I will start a new thread in the group about what is the best file type.

I tested this link on my system. It works for me. I must have typed the last link incorrectly.

I have the original for this particular file, that is unmask. It just needed the colors tweeked. So there is no need to go to any lengths to force a recovery of the file. It is just to solve the mistory, so when we (the group) don’t have a backup, it is not a problem. Maybe understanding a better way to mask. Or a better way to interigate a file. Six months ago I had a the same problem, but no usefull backup, and becaus I was under a time crunch, I had to not use the image that was better. The file I received had the mask so I could not fall back.

Robert

Got it – 48 seconds to d-l. Now, I’ll Open it up and see what I can find.

Thanks,
Hunt

In article , says…

In article <edmr8l$ says

….

www.spectrumconcepts.com/610_snap_down-356.zip

Don’t be surprized at a long download time. It is a 17mb zip of a 31mb .PSD file. I will start a new thread in the group about what is the best file type.

I tested this link on my system. It works for me. I must have typed the last link incorrectly.

I have the original for this particular file, that is unmask. It just needed the colors tweeked. So there is no need to go to any lengths to force a recovery of the file. It is just to solve the mistory, so when we (the group) don’t have a backup, it is not a problem. Maybe understanding a better way to mask. Or a better way to interigate a file. Six months ago I had a the same problem, but no usefull backup, and becaus I was under a time crunch, I had to not use the image that was better. The file I received had the mask so I could not fall back.

Robert

Got it – 48 seconds to d-l. Now, I’ll Open it up and see what I can find.
Thanks,
Hunt

Robert,

Curious as heck. I have played with this image in a half-dozen programs, and cannot tell where the Shape is coming from. It shows up in some programs as a Filled Shape (circular), and knocks out the background. As you have stated, no Path, no Selection, and in PS, the Shape doesn’t show. Painter sees it as a four Layer PSD, with a white background, the circular image of the hand, and two Shape Layers, one filled, but one seemingly empty. I do not have an answer for you as to what is happening.

However, I do have a "finished" image to upload to you. So as to not get someone else into your site, please send me the FTP info (URL, any folders, log-in, password, etc.) that I might need, and I’ll upload it to you. Send the info to (changing NOONE to bhunt). I did only minimal
color and density correction, and did so in Adjustment Layers, so you can bring the image into your system, put it on your monitor and tweek it for your selected output. I have left the finished file in PSD, so you will have the Layers to adjust. I hope that I have solved your problem, but still have no answer. It only took moments to do the work, once I found a program that would Open the file in its full form without the knockout.

I’m going to be on assignment for about 3 weeks, then only back for a few days, before heading overseas for 2 weeks, so I may not have time to explore the whys and wherefores of the image. I’ve gotta know why I am seeing, what I am seeing – where does it come from?!?!?

Hunt