Very old photographs

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Aug 27, 2004
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Having been a keen amateur photographer for close on 60 years, I understand a little about photography.
for the last three years I have been an active user also of a digital Nikon – just the 995 – for its extensive menus and flexibility in close ups and clinical work, and have used PhotoShop LE which came with the camera and became reasonably fast and adept with it.

About 2 months ago, I added a scanner – Epsom 4870, which came with PhotoShop Elements2.0 in order to scan and save all the old Family albums, and my more recent slides. These are all easy and rewarding, but I have yet found tno technique for dealing with the oldest photographs which have begun to return to silver in places. I have tried for days every technique which I know and which I can find in the online help and the various books and journals I have accumulated since turning to Digital.

Can anyone please help with this problem. On high magnifification the silverising appears as fine dots, and these register enmass as a pale blue, but the worst picture – a wedding group – has also a blotchy appearance (?poor fixing) and (simplest to correct) has been folded across its middle along with the cardboard mount. As it is sepia, I expecteed it to be easy by deselecting blue, but the detail disappears as well from other parts of the picture. I have even separated all the "participants" in layers and tried individual corrections before recombining – but am left gasping at the elusiveness of the problem.

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Stephan
Aug 27, 2004
"D.L." wrote in message
Having been a keen amateur photographer for close on 60 years, I
understand
a little about photography.
for the last three years I have been an active user also of a digital Nikon – just the 995 – for its extensive menus and flexibility in close
ups
and clinical work, and have used PhotoShop LE which came with the camera
and
became reasonably fast and adept with it.

About 2 months ago, I added a scanner – Epsom 4870, which came with PhotoShop Elements2.0 in order to scan and save all the old Family albums, and my more recent slides. These are all easy and rewarding, but I have yet found tno technique for dealing with the oldest photographs which have begun to return to silver in places. I have tried for days every technique which I know and which I can find in the online help and the various books and journals I have accumulated since turning to Digital.
Can anyone please help with this problem. On high magnifification the silverising appears as fine dots, and these register enmass as a pale
blue,
but the worst picture – a wedding group – has also a blotchy appearance (?poor fixing) and (simplest to correct) has been folded across its middle along with the cardboard mount. As it is sepia, I expecteed it to be
easy
by deselecting blue, but the detail disappears as well from other parts of the picture. I have even separated all the "participants" in layers and tried individual corrections before recombining – but am left gasping at
the
elusiveness of the problem.

With a bit of luck your problem will appear only in one channel. Since your final image is going to be sepia you "might" solve the problem by discarding the ugly channel.

Stephan
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John Rampling
Aug 27, 2004
Stephan gave a good reply, but for more ideas on dealing with old photographs have a look at www.retouchpro.com where they tackle this sort of problem all the time.

"D.L." wrote in message
Having been a keen amateur photographer for close on 60 years, I understand
a little about photography.
for the last three years I have been an active user also of a digital Nikon – just the 995 – for its extensive menus and flexibility in close ups
and clinical work, and have used PhotoShop LE which came with the camera and
became reasonably fast and adept with it.

About 2 months ago, I added a scanner – Epsom 4870, which came with PhotoShop Elements2.0 in order to scan and save all the old Family albums, and my more recent slides. These are all easy and rewarding, but I have yet found tno technique for dealing with the oldest photographs which have begun to return to silver in places. I have tried for days every technique which I know and which I can find in the online help and the various books and journals I have accumulated since turning to Digital.
Can anyone please help with this problem. On high magnifification the silverising appears as fine dots, and these register enmass as a pale blue,
but the worst picture – a wedding group – has also a blotchy appearance (?poor fixing) and (simplest to correct) has been folded across its middle along with the cardboard mount. As it is sepia, I expecteed it to be easy
by deselecting blue, but the detail disappears as well from other parts of the picture. I have even separated all the "participants" in layers and tried individual corrections before recombining – but am left gasping at the
elusiveness of the problem.

David

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xDsrtRat
Aug 27, 2004
I also suggest getting Photoshop CS as opposed to working with the LE version. You may also wish to add "Photoshop: Restoration and Retouching", by Katrin Eisman, to your reading list (ISBN: 0735713502). This is an invaluable resource as is the related website, www.digitalretouch.org. I’ve not been able to devote the time to restoration I’d really like to, but Ms. Eisman’s book has been immensely helpful.

If the Photoshop CS seems a little pricey, consider your background: Pro equipment may be more expensive, but when you start working with it, you find out it can do more and is much more adaptable to your situation.

"John Rampling" wrote in message
Stephan gave a good reply, but for more ideas on dealing with old photographs have a look at www.retouchpro.com where they tackle this sort
of
problem all the time.

"D.L." wrote in message
Having been a keen amateur photographer for close on 60 years, I understand
a little about photography.
for the last three years I have been an active user also of a digital Nikon – just the 995 – for its extensive menus and flexibility in close ups
and clinical work, and have used PhotoShop LE which came with the camera and
became reasonably fast and adept with it.

About 2 months ago, I added a scanner – Epsom 4870, which came with PhotoShop Elements2.0 in order to scan and save all the old Family
albums,
and my more recent slides. These are all easy and rewarding, but I
have
yet found tno technique for dealing with the oldest photographs which
have
begun to return to silver in places. I have tried for days every technique which I know and which I can find in the online help and the various books and journals I have accumulated since turning to Digital.
Can anyone please help with this problem. On high magnifification the silverising appears as fine dots, and these register enmass as a pale blue,
but the worst picture – a wedding group – has also a blotchy appearance (?poor fixing) and (simplest to correct) has been folded across its
middle
along with the cardboard mount. As it is sepia, I expecteed it to be easy
by deselecting blue, but the detail disappears as well from other parts
of
the picture. I have even separated all the "participants" in layers
and
tried individual corrections before recombining – but am left gasping at the
elusiveness of the problem.

David

TD
The Doormouse
Aug 27, 2004
Try "Professional Photoshop" by Dan Margulis.

The book is expensive, and might require the full version of Photoshop. HOWEVER, you will learn amazing things! Also find "Photoshop Channel Chops".

Both are pretty deep reading, but so very worth it.

The Doormouse


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Hecate
Aug 29, 2004
On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 23:43:50 GMT, The Doormouse
wrote:

Try "Professional Photoshop" by Dan Margulis.

The book is expensive, and might require the full version of Photoshop. HOWEVER, you will learn amazing things! Also find "Photoshop Channel Chops".

Both are pretty deep reading, but so very worth it.
I thought I knew about channels until I read Channel Chops 😉



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LG
Aug 29, 2004
You might try taking a digital photo of the silvered pics with a copy stand. I haven’t tried it myself, but I’ve read that if you are slightly off-axis so that you aren’t directly above the photo, then the reflection from the silver is greatly diminished.

"D.L." wrote in message
Having been a keen amateur photographer for close on 60 years, I understand a little about photography.
for the last three years I have been an active user also of a digital Nikon – just the 995 – for its extensive menus and flexibility in close ups and clinical work, and have used PhotoShop LE which came with the camera and became reasonably fast and adept with it.

About 2 months ago, I added a scanner – Epsom 4870, which came with PhotoShop Elements2.0 in order to scan and save all the old Family albums, and my more recent slides. These are all easy and rewarding, but I have yet found tno technique for dealing with the oldest photographs which have begun to return to silver in places. I have tried for days every technique which I know and which I can find in the online help and the various books and journals I have accumulated since turning to Digital.
Can anyone please help with this problem. On high magnifification the silverising appears as fine dots, and these register enmass as a pale blue, but the worst picture – a wedding group – has also a blotchy appearance (?poor fixing) and (simplest to correct) has been folded across its middle along with the cardboard mount. As it is sepia, I expecteed it to be easy by deselecting blue, but the detail disappears as well from other parts of the picture. I have even separated all the "participants" in layers and tried individual corrections before recombining – but am left gasping at the elusiveness of the problem.

David

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