General consensus is an 18 month upgrade cycle. You’re nowhere near that yet.
Bob
I’m betting two years. Acrobat has always had an upgrade cycle of about two years, and it is part of the CS.
When you consider the investment required to upgrade the whole CS at once, I think two years makes a bit more sense, and it gives Adobe the time to make sure that each individual program is truly ready to go. (I don’t think GoLive CS was "ready for prime time").
Since they’re synchronizing upgrades now (sigh), expect it at the speed of the slowest upgrade in the box. Illustrator 11, for instance, was mostly ready months before the rest, and gOlive… well, nevermind.
It’s kind of a problem, keeping them in synch, if there is a big change needed in one product–say InDesign, to incorporate better long document features–but Illustrator 11 was such a big upgrade, that they’re going to have to scrape around to find enough features to make an upgrade look like it’s worth $169 (or maybe more, next time).
Pretty much the same as Microsoft Office. There’s always one app that is a major improvement and the rest just have some tweaks. IMO, Office 2003’s only worthwhile improvements are in Outlook.
Bob
Yeah it needs to be upgraded or debugged cause as much as it crashes I cant see me splurging for another until they fix this one I dont feel CS was worth the upgrade PS7 seems more stable than CS an just to finish a project without all the crashes i will uninstall CS and work with 7
I haven’t upgraded to the whole CS Suite, but yes, it does seem at least odd that Adobe would put all of their upgrade eggs in one basket like this. I’ve had my problems with PS CS (since figured out, thanks to Ian), but I can’t imagine the logistics of trying to upgrade the whole suite at once.
Nick,
That’s the whole idea of a suite. The applications will all be released at the same time…individually and as a suite.
Bob
because of the issue’s with PS CS i havent upgraded to the whole suite in fact i have since left go live for dream weaver mx 2004 i like the additions to PS CS but i keep crashing that i use PS 7 more or for important jobs i use a hp P4 3GHZ laptop with 768 ram with hyper threading
Pretty much the same as Microsoft Office. There’s always one app that is a major improvement and the rest just have some tweaks.
Which is one reason so many customers now decide to skip versions, even though ten years ago, many jumped on the latest upgrades as soon as they were available. Of course, they used to charge a lot less for upgrading MS Word, and each version offered new features. Since Adobe is following the same upgrade scheme, I would imagine that they will find the same sort of resistance:
Ballmer said M*cr*s*ft needs to work to change a number of customer perceptions, "including the views that older versions of Office and Windows are good enough
– Loss of Focus at M*cr*s*ft Worries Top Exec <
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1620408,00.asp>
Which is then rendered immediately obsolete by down loading Mozilla.
Tried it. Didn’t like it.
Bob
I think the 2 year idea is a great one. Adobe makes rock solid products which come out with mayhaps 1 patch, which is done after decent time is taken to hear the communities wants (always respect a company that listens to its community!)
And 2 years doesn’t make you feel like they come out with products ever 6 months (which would make me feel like I’m not gettin my money’s worth)
Macromedia does the same thing. I just got Studio MX 2004 Pro, and I won’t be upgrading to another Macromedia tool until late 2006/early 2007. They too make stable, powerful apps and listen to their communities.
Now THERE’S a merger I’d like to see!
Macromedia Web Development/Server Application Languages/Multimedia Animation powered by Adobe Graphics Editing, Digital Video and Vector Editing. Macrobe! Er…. Adobedia?
Either way, 2 stellar companies whom I pray NEVER get bought out my Microsoft.
I’d never want to see Microsoft buy out Adobe, but at least the activation process would be less buggy if they did. Although it hasn’t caused me any real grief personally, I’m surprised Adobe has gone so long now without addressing a fix to how they’ve implemented what triggers a reactivation being prompted for…namely, what I call their "time synch" foul-up. Activation should strictly be hardware dependent, yet isn’t. I’ll say no more, as I’ve voiced my opnions enough on this before. It would just be nice to see Adobe address what seems should be an easy problem to solve, but I’m no programmer so I could be way off base on that assumption.
Daryl
Walwin — WHAT issues? There are very few real problems with Photoshop CS. Most of it traces back to bad fonts, bad disks, bad utilities, etc.
Chris I just bought this laptop to replace a recently new laptop it was an amd 64bit lap top I had few problems with CS the video card on that laptop blew so i switched to this HP P4 3ghz machine and i cant complete any jobs In CS it crashes as soon as i basically get into the middle of the job every time so i have to go back to my desktop strange thou I went back to working in PS 7 which i installed because i have an upgrade version of CS and it doesnt crash as much but my problem is the loss of work that CS has caused me it freezes as i try to save the work or it just turns off i’ve had the laptop looked at well i’ve only had it 3 weeks and already I dont know which to trash the Laptop since i’ve never been fond of HP products or PS CS and work with fireworks any suggestions on what the problem is if the machine is fine and their are no bugs in the program
Next Version of CS?
Will be out next tuesday at midnight. Wear a Dumbledore costume and get 10% off.
OOPS! This isn’t alt.fan.harry-potter! 🙂
Tuesday? Sorry can’t make it.
Oh, please they haven’t even patched the bugs in the current version.
Robert
Walwin – that wouldn’t happen to be a zd7000, would it? (we’re investigating a problem on that system with HP) If so, search the forum for "zd7000" to get more details.
Walwin…
I think you need to look into your punctuation keys malfunction, first.
Walwin – Hmm, I don’t know if that one is affected by the same problem. But if the machien shuts down or restarts then it’s either the RAM or the motherboard.
ok thanks i’ll increase my ram
I don’t mean a lack of RAM – I mean defective RAM.
You need to try swapping out the RAM you have and see if the problem goes away.
Harry Potter is only "Yesterday" and RAM stands for Ron, ‘Arry and ‘Moimne.
Apparently Dumbledore has a fix for the "View Rotation in the File Browser" or PS CS in general.
Any Ideas?
Regards
Mark
Yeah John, Kiss Anus3 Yourself. I Gotta Life. Just replying to Dave Milbuts post, if you care to SCROLL or interject when the feeling suits you, suits you.
WAB!
This could have been a nice thread. It’ll be a shame to see it go.
Sigh.
John, just being American, Whatever!
This could have been a nice thread. It’ll be a shame to see it go.
Which is what’s going to happen real soon.
Cool it, please.
Bob
The inappropriate and off-topic posts have been deleted from this topic.
Mark, you are coming very close to finding yourself on the ‘moderated post’ list, when your messages will not be added to a topic until they have been seen as acceptable by a forum host
Why worry about the next upgrade to PS? Every time I upgrade I loose another of my plugins ( yes I KNOW its not Adobe’s fault, its ALWAYS the fault of the plugin writer) funny thing is, a plug in works perfectly well in PS 2.5, 3, 4, 5, 5.5, 6 then wont work in 7. Could it be that its not the fault of KTP or Extensis but that Adobe has changed something that did not NEED to be altered?
In view of #27 will this be censored?
Have you ever heard of progress? Besides, the way I understand is that Adobe provides a standard for plugins just like do for postscript.
And just like postscript sometimes corners get cut and you wind up with things not working properly.
You didn’t violate the TOS. Why would you think your post would be censored?
Bob
Len,
Apologies to all I have offended. I shaal keep off the Forums when I have too much alcohol. Again apologies.
Regards
Mark
I shaal keep off the Forums when I have too much alcohol. Again apologies.
there’s always usenet for when you’ve got a buzz on! 🙂
Walwin, check HP’s website. They are replacing the defective computers with new ones, according to an article I read recently.
I think that someplace on their site they have a list of the ones with problems.
