Adobe Photoshop Canvas

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Claudia_Kern
Jul 17, 2004
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Hi, am new to photoshop. trying to learn. i installed the tryout version of photoshop to start with. my problem is when i opened it very first time it was ok. but, then i did something (i don’t know what funny eh!!) and suddenly the canvas had a border.
when i try to create a new image, i don’t know how to remove the canvas border.

PLEASE HELP ME.
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MM
Mac_McDougald
Jul 17, 2004
"resize windows to fit" option when zoom tool is active.

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Claudia_Kern
Jul 18, 2004
Couldn’t find it. please if you don’t mind can you go step by step.
MM
Mac_McDougald
Jul 18, 2004

1. Click zoom tool.
2. Click "resize windows to fit" in options toolbar.

M
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Claudia_Kern
Jul 18, 2004
No, it didn’t solve my problem. my problem is actually related to canvas. it has an outline. just the canvas where i can draw an rectangle.

HOW TO REMOVE THAT OUTLINE OF CANVAS.
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Mike_Ornellas
Jul 18, 2004
you can’t.
MM
Mac_McDougald
Jul 18, 2004
The tiny black outline?
It’s just there to delineate edge visually.
It’s not actually IN the image data.

M
JJ
John_Joslin
Jul 18, 2004
Print it and you’ll see what is meant.
CK
Claudia_Kern
Jul 18, 2004
First i thought so. and kept on creating the image. and when i put the image in an html test page just to try the outline was still there.

when i installed it first the canvas had no out line , but then suddenly it had outline. i even uninstalled and installed hopting it would fix it but it didnot work.
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Mac_McDougald
Jul 18, 2004
If you are still referring to the very thin black line that delineates the edge of your image, is really is NOT there.

If you are seeing it in browser, against a white background, then you must have added a line around it? Did you by any chance select all and stroke or something like that?

You can email me the pic, just to confirm if you’d like: doogle AT doogle DOT com

I *am* curious at this point.

Mac
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dave_milbut
Jul 18, 2004
If you are seeing it in browser, against a white background, then you must have added a line around it

unless you’re seeing it in a browser LINK (using the <A> tag) instead of as an image with the <img> tag. the a tag will add a frame around an image in most browsers unless you set the border=0.

just a thought.
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Mac_McDougald
Jul 18, 2004
unless you’re seeing it in a browser LINK (using the <A> tag) …

Close, Dave…

Actually, it’s just the border= statement in HTML.
She sent me the file, which is just a GIF of a thick blue line with some transparency around it.

See:
http://www.doogle.com/misc/claudia

Mac
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dave_milbut
Jul 18, 2004
cool. it sounded html-ish. i just took a shot in the dark.
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Mac_McDougald
Jul 18, 2004
cool. it sounded html-ish. i just took a shot in the dark.

Well, you’re right in that a linked pic <A HREF=> will have a border around it also (assuming one has Underline Link option on in browser), unless there is a border=0 call in the <IMG SRC> tag.

border=0 will make it where there is no outline regards of whether picutre file is linked or not, and regardless of underline option set in browser.

However, TEXT will always have underline under it if linked, if that option is set in browser. Although, I add a tiny script to page so that underline is NEVER on, as I don’t like the look of it 🙂

Mac
CK
Claudia_Kern
Jul 18, 2004
thanx Mac McDougald

you solved my problem. i got it right. i missed that border part of table.

thanx evryone for helping me out.
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dave_milbut
Jul 18, 2004
However, TEXT will always have underline under it if linked, if that option is set in browser.

without recalling the actual code (and not wanting to look it up as i spend enough time wading throuh css specs during the week), i’m sure this can also be turned off with css. the actual solution is left as an exercise for the reader. 🙂

ahh, phooey…

object.style.textDecorationUnderline=false

🙂
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Mac_McDougald
Jul 18, 2004
object.style.textDecorationUnderline=false

I’m not up to speed with CSS yet..can that statement stand alone? (I’ll test)…

I’ve used this, works in IE, all versions of Netscape and Mozilla that I’ve tried:

<STYLE TYPE="text/css">
a {text-decoration: none;}
</STYLE>

Which is I guess a css call also, but can stand alone. Works in <head> tag or between <head> and <body>. Or anywhere, I guess 🙂

Mac
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dave_milbut
Jul 18, 2004
textdecoration is a "fuller" version of textDecorationUnderline. you said you wanted only underline right? 😉

yea it can be coded inline… like so:

<a style="textDecorationUnderline:false" href="something">

hmmm… looking over the docs, maybe not. it might be (looks like it is) only scripting. text-decoration IS codable inline. to use textDecorationUnderline you’d need to do this:

<a id=myALink href="something">somethingtext</a> <script language=javascript>
myALink.style.textDecorationUnderline=false;
</script>
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Claudia_Kern
Jul 18, 2004
well if you have to make the underline false for a whole document then i think the second approach is better and saves you a few clicks and also make it simple

text-decoration: none (you can choose any option. i thnk there are also options for strike through but i never used that

so i think if you use this option via a style seet for whole document it is easy to handle unless you want only one link not to be underlined.
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LenHewitt
Jul 18, 2004
Mac,

I see on your link you described the default for border to be 1. In fact, that is not part of the HTML specification. The default is left up to the user_agent:

border = pixels

Deprecated. This attribute specifies the width of an IMG or OBJECT

border, in pixels. The default value for this attribute depends on the user agent.

Additionally I know of no user-agent that uses a default of 1 for the border attribute. Every one I’m familiar with defaults to zero UNLESS used as a link within an <A href></A> tag
CK
Claudia_Kern
Jul 18, 2004
I think what MAC meant was when i created the page it was set to 1 by default. i am using frontpage to create it and i know this is true. i Don’t why i forgot about it on first part. he doesn’t mean that when rendering page by a user agent user agent automatically puts a border.

atleast i think he din’t mean that.
MM
Mac_McDougald
Jul 18, 2004
Additionally I know of no user-agent that uses a default of 1 for the border attribute. Every one I’m familiar with defaults to zero UNLESS used as a link within an <A href></A> tag

Yes, you’re quite right…
If no border statement AND is linked, then you get the line around (color determined by LINK tags in <BODY> call). This happens whether option to underline links is on or off.

If no border statement and is merely <IMG SRC> tag, then you do NOT.

Thanks for making me think again.
Methinks Claudia must have had the image in a link, which would make Dave’s original statement precisely correct.

Also, had forgotten, the linked image with no border call defaults to size 2 border, not size 1.

FWIW, I revised my previous example at:
http://www.doogle.com/misc/claudia/

Mac
MM
Mac_McDougald
Jul 18, 2004
Well, I knew it was either set to 1 or was a link with wrong call…although I got off track during the explanation 🙂

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Claudia_Kern
Jul 18, 2004
think there is something that i couldn’t get. following is what i am getting.

1. if you put an image in a page i think by default it puts and border of 2 (if linked and that is exactly what i think)

2. the problem i had was when i made a table it automatically made the BORDER OF TABLE (not image) to 1 and frontpage tends to do that if you don’t tell it the border and also the image i was using was not a link.

3. if you link the image you have to specify the border=0 because this is not the default case.( i think so and i been doing it so).

Conclusion(by me): 1) if you link an image then you HAVE TO specify the border=0.
2) you have to specify the border=0 while creating table(in frontpage)

these conclusions are what i think. they may or may not be right. so PLEASE CORRECT ME IF YOU THINK I AM WRONG SOMEWHERE.

thanx
MM
Mac_McDougald
Jul 18, 2004
Conclusion(by me): 1) if you link an image then you HAVE TO specify the border=0.

Correct.

2) you have to specify the border=0 while creating table(in frontpage)
No.
We hadn’t even postulated TABLE as an additonal variable in your display prob 🙂
But if border call is not present in table, IE, at least, defaults to NO table/cell borders.

As a matter of fact, if you’ll look at source for the example page I made http://www.doogle.com/misc/claudia/
you’ll see it is using table, and <TABLE> and <TD> tags are just that, with no further conditons.

Mac
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dave_milbut
Jul 18, 2004
better yet, don’t use frontpage!
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Claudia_Kern
Jul 18, 2004
know i should not be using frontpage but i don’t have money to buy something like Dreamweaver or something.

if you know something which free or cheap and is good c then can you tell me please.
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dave_milbut
Jul 18, 2004
if you have a decent grasp of html there’s no reason not to do it in wordpad… mozilla has a bare bones wysiwyg editor built in to help with things like table layouts etc.
CK
Claudia_Kern
Jul 18, 2004
hmm. i think i’ll give it a try. well thanx
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LenHewitt
Jul 18, 2004
Mac,

Made me think too <g>…before getting out the HTML 4.01 specs I hadn’t realized the border attribute had actually been deprecated!
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LenHewitt
Jul 18, 2004
Claudia,

If you link to a CSS file with the following code in it (or add the following code within <style></style> tags in the head section):

a:link IMG {
border: none
}
a:visited IMG {
border: none
}
a:active IMG {
border: none
}
a:hover IMG {
border: none
}

You will get no borders on linked images without needing to set a border attribute
MM
Mac_McDougald
Jul 18, 2004
I’ve so far "split the difference" by using HotDog Pro. Not WYSIWYG, but lots of shortcuts, and instant preview in browser of your choice with F key. But it’s around $100 or so.

There’s a great text editor that gives much of this functionality also: NoteTabPro. I use it quite a bit to tweak already made pages. Several versions, including a freebie.
I think the full version with HTML tools is only $20.
30 day trial.
http://notetab.com

Mac
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dave_milbut
Jul 18, 2004
also try textpad

<http://www.textpad.com/>

also shareware. plug in exactly what you need (including syntax checking) and nothing more.

see all the cool plugins…

<http://www.textpad.com/add-ons/index.html>
CK
Claudia_Kern
Jul 18, 2004
hey thanx guys. thanx for alll this. i would sure use this now

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