Creating an oval logo help!!

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Sherry_Chandler
Aug 14, 2004
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Hi!

I am trying to create an Oval with text. I created a transparent background, then created the oval and filled it with white. I then put the text in to find the Oval does not show when saved… everything is white.

Grrrr… what am I doing wrong please!

Sherry

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BobLevine
Aug 14, 2004
What are you doing with the graphic? Many applications don’t support transparency and will simply fill the transparent areas with white.

Bob
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Sherry_Chandler
Aug 14, 2004
Hi Bob!

I was trying to create a logo for my son’s new business. He is using something at home to put the logo into a business card. I am trying it using MS Publisher program with no luck.

I just tried creating a Clipping Path but that didn’t work either…

Sherry
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BobLevine
Aug 14, 2004
You’ll need to save as EPS for Publisher, I think.

Bob
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Sherry_Chandler
Aug 14, 2004
Thank you I will give that a try…

Sherry
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Sherry_Chandler
Aug 14, 2004
Nope didn’t work either… thanks for trying!

Sherry
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YrbkMgr
Aug 14, 2004
Sherry,

What version of MS Pub are you using?

Up through Office 2000, it didn’t support transparency in tiffs. There’s a complicated workaround that I use, but your mileage may vary. If you’re still interested, say so and I’ll post what I do.

Peace,
Tony
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Mac_McDougald
Aug 15, 2004
Tony…does MS Publisher do transparent TIFF in versions AFTER 2000?

And sure, please post your complicated workaround.

I understand it’s somewhat off topic here maybe, but I’m going to have to use pub some at new job (2003 version there), and I have 2000 version here, but have never used it, and need to see what the diffs are, I guess.

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BobLevine
Aug 15, 2004
Mac,

Depending upon what you’re going to be expected to do with Publisher you might want to look into InDesign.

Bob
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Mac_McDougald
Aug 15, 2004
Bob, I actually HAVE ID 2.0, (and ID CS on the shelf, long story), but not even basically hip with it; also have some experience in past with PageMaker (which I wouldn’t consider spending any more time on at this point)

But I’m going to have to knock out some stuff in a hurry in the coming month or so, and there are already formatted newsletters and whatnot there from Publisher 2003, left over from previous person, and I doubt if I’ll initially have time to get up to speed with ID to duplicate/improve on the effort, although I totally agree with you down the road.

I have lots on my plate to do in short amount of time, and in my first month there, it’s been a daily dose of putting out fires rather than preventing them 🙂

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YrbkMgr
Aug 15, 2004
Well, here are the gory details.

I only have MS Pub 2000. A friend said that I would be impressed with what they did with Pub 2003, but I haven’t been able to see for myself. That would be the ONLY thing that they could do that would impress me.

MS Pub 2000 will not recognize transparency but it will recognize a clipping path in an EPS file. It’s not perfect, but will work. The reason I said "complicated" was in the event I had to explain to the original poster how to create a clipping path.

What I do, is I create a path around my object, then create a clipping path from that. Sometimes, you have to leave the Levels in the clipping path blank, sometimes I use a value of 4 – it varies. Then I export the file to Photoshop EPS.

In PUB, when you import the image (draw an image rectangle, double click on it, then get your EPS), you will often find a scraggy white border around it where it did not interpret the clipping path correctly. Then, you can edit and add anchor points around the image to clean up the clipping.

If you right click on the image you can change the picture frame properties to wrap around the picture, or to wrap around the picture frame. If you choose "picture", you can then edit the anchor points. Control adds or deletes the anchor points and you can tweak it so that there is no white background showing.

Usually you can do this procedure in MS Pub with a JPG on a white background – the key is to start with changing the picture frame properites so that it’s around the picture and not the entire frame, and then editing. I find that using clipping paths tends to be more exact, but not always.

Peace,
Tony
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r_harvey
Aug 15, 2004
Bob, I actually HAVE ID 2.0, (and ID CS on the shelf, long story), but not even basically hip with it; also have some experience in past with PageMaker (which I wouldn’t consider spending any more time on at this point…

Use InDesign 2.0.2 for it (download all of the patches first!). Pretend you’re using Adobe Illustrator, don’t bother learning InDesign now, and just crank-out your job with InDesign. It recognizes Photoshop transparency just fine. The only things to remember in InDesign now are that all text must be in a box, and you have to go to a palette to make text wrap-around pictures.
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Mac_McDougald
Aug 15, 2004
Thanks for the Publisher info, Tony.
Gory, indeed.

I’ll keep your post, see how it relates to 2003 also.

The last variable, of course, is see how these various kludges actually output, say to .pdf, which is what our print vendors work from, as far as I know.

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YrbkMgr
Aug 15, 2004
Mac,

The last variable, of course, is see how these various kludges actually output, say to .pdf

That’s exactly how I use it. It’s output to PDF.
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Mac_McDougald
Aug 15, 2004
Use InDesign 2.0.2 for it (download all of the patches first!). Pretend you’re using Adobe Illustrator…

That may not help, as I’m weak with Illy also, have never used it in actual production environment.

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r_harvey
Aug 15, 2004
If you decide to try it, InDesign 2.0.2 makes beautiful PDF.

You don’t need to know everything about the program. Draw a few lines, place a few pictures, put text in boxes. Learn it later. It’s Sunday, everything’s a rerun but the Olympics… have fun with it.
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Mac_McDougald
Aug 15, 2004
Actually was just dinking with it, but PGA Championship IS on 🙂

ID just seems so unintuitable … first hurdle, sizing images, apparantly you have to transform them by %. Inserting table, can’t seem to reselect the table itself, etc. Guess I’ll have to actually use Help 🙂

We’ll see…would really like to get at least "crippled proficient" before long, but again, may not have time for initial efforts at the new job.

Thanks for the encouragement.

Mac
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BobLevine
Aug 15, 2004
Place the image and hold the ctrl+shift key down to scale images.

Pay the ID forum(s) a visit. Like here, it’s advisable to search first. You question has likely already been answered.

Bob
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Mac_McDougald
Aug 15, 2004
Thanks Bob…obviously will need to do just that.

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YrbkMgr
Aug 15, 2004
Let me just state, for the record.

I HATE MS PUB. But I don’t have ID, I have Pagemaker and the learning curve for it was too steep. It’s now in my coaster collection. But for the one or two things I have to use MS PUB for, it works – not perfect, but it does.

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