new to PS vers CS2 help with adding existing plugins

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Ariana_B.
Sep 5, 2007
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Hi everyone,

I finally got CS2 (*after using PSP Jasc/Corel for 7 years) from Amazon (*at a very good price!) and I don’t understand what I am doing obviously! I always have used an outside file extension to direct my plugins. So I also wanted to do this with photoshop, (*to direct the PlugIns to an outside folder), and I guess I assumed that the Filters and Scratch disk were what I needed..So…I added the extension there and now PS keeps giving me default warnings about not locating the MSVCRT10.dll Now I know this is a standard System .dll, but I redownloaded and installed it anyway in the System folder. Now I also put the extension in to redirect the filter/scratchdisk to that general use plugin folder I still use with my existing programs and it is right there, but it is not detecting any plugins or filters???? …did I mess up and do I have to reinstall to fix this or is there a way to reinstate the default setting and elimenate that extension? Confused? I hope not, because I am, and who can help me if I confused you!? I realize how pittifully stupid I sound. But 7 years in PSP, has made the PS learning curve very steep for me.

Thank you

Ariana

BTW…What is the "Scratch Disk" anyway? And can someone tell me where to put my plugins so that I don’t have to bog down the program? I have almost 450 different pay and free plugins, actions and filters.

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Daryl_Pritchard
Sep 5, 2007
Hi Ariana,

I’m not quite sure what you mean by an outside file extension, unless that is akin to a shortcut or link, but Photoshop uses an "Additional Plugins" path reference to point to a location where 3rd-party plugins are installed. So, rather than specify a file extension in the Filters and Scratch Disk preferences dialog of Photoshop, you will need to actually specify a directory path.

As for the MSVCRT10.DLL error, that’s a relatively common one spoken of here with regard to PS and you’re on the right track but missed the correct directory to put the DLL in. It isn’t C:\Windows\System but rather C:\Windows\System32.

Note, while it often works to simply point to a directory of previously installed plugins, there are some that may well require a reinstall since they place additional files into the editing application’s installation directory. Extensis (now OnOne Software) plugins are a good example. Sometimes you can copy those additional files to the 3rd party directory as well and find your plugins now work in multiple applications without a reinstall, but your results may vary. Also, should you copy any pluins from another PC, they might require a reinstall if any serialization data is written to the Windows Registry.

Hope that helps,

Daryl
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Ariana_B.
Sep 5, 2007
Hi Daryl, first off thanx! second, I meant the system32, forgot the numbers! hehehe… On this part…" Photoshop uses an "Additional Plugins" path reference " Can you help me to find the path? I mean where I go inside PS, or in PS Prefs to set it up?

I can always reinstall SBP and other things that need reinstall. I use 2 main C(*for programs/OS/etc, this includes the plugins folder) & D(*for art and storing), 3 externals for storage. I am finding the way to sort out the PS files is a bit daunting. I have loads of Brushes and other items that I bought not realizing they would only work in PS, due to the .abr extension, and not a .jbr. Since I have so many of these things I cannot possibly see how PS could load them internally. That is why I have always used an outside file Folder with jasc/corel.

I truly appreciate you help, and don’t be surprised if my name pops up fairly frequently for at least a week or two! LOL!
Ariana
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Daryl_Pritchard
Sep 5, 2007
Ariana,

I guess I was a bit vague in my reply, but that Additional Plug-ins directory path is specified in the Filters & Scratch Disks area of your Photoshop preferences. I’ve only got PS CS installed on my work PC, but it actually refers to that area as the "Plug-Ins and Scratch Disks" preferences. I’m thinking CS2 does differ slightly, but can’t recall how, yet that should still be enough info for you to easily find the proper dialog.

I don’t know if there is a limit on the number of brushes that Photoshop can support, but I’d not be surprised, as it was once rather limited on the number of plug-ins that would appear in the Filter menu. That resulted in third-party filter manager solutions. PS now supports a significantly larger number of filters as best I recall.

Being as I have not used many different brushes, I don’t know for certain how PS works in regard to managing them. There are no preferences to specify alternate brush paths or any other such items (styles, actions, etc.) for which additional sets of those items can be loaded. I think what happens is that if you load a set of brushes by browsing from the Load dialog to some directory where your ABR files are saved, Photoshop will then merge them into your user-specific Photoshop Settings folder in the Brushes.psp file. Specifically for CS2, that would be the (for WinXP) "C:\Documents and Settings\[username]\Application Data\Adobe\Photoshop\9.0\Adobe Photoshop CS2 Settings" directory.

If there is a way to manage a large number of brushes in an external directory paath, I’m not familiar with the method to do so. I’m not sure, but if those files were in the same directory path as defined for the Additional Plugins, PS might see them and load them during startup.

Regards,

Daryl
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LenHewitt
Sep 6, 2007
Ariana,

To answer your other question "BTW…What is the "Scratch Disk" anyway?", Photoshop has its own virtual memory management (VMM) completely separate from the Windows VMM.

Photoshop uses the scratch disk as it’s PRIME memory. It uses the installed RAM as a cache for the disk-based SCRATCH file.

Whenever you open Photoshop, a scratch file is created the size of which will depend upon the number of plugins, actions etc. that you have, but 100 Mbytes or more is not unusual. As you open a document, then that will also be written to the scratch file, and as you work on the file, again it is written to the scratch file.

Consequently the scratch file can get quite huge, maybe 5 or more times the size of the image you have open.

Many people devote a partition of maybe 10 to 20 GByte purely to Photoshop’s Primary scratch file.
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Ariana_B.
Sep 6, 2007
Good morning and hello!
OMGDDSS!!! I am now even more stressed out and frightened! OK, I understand the concept of a "Cache" and I also need to know how to clean this? Where can I find it if I did not set up a seperate location and space to place the "Scratch Disk" debris? I have lots of space, 250G on both drives C & D. So I guess the question is how to locate existing debris and clean it out, set up a folder to act as the "Scratch Disk" catch all, and last but not least, Figure out how to direct and get my plugins to work! Would anyone be interested in some one on one via e-mail direct to help me get this set up properly?
Well One can wish.
ThanX looking for your replies,
Ariana
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John_Joslin
Sep 6, 2007
Don’t worry.

The scratch file is automatically deleted when you close Photoshop properly.

If you had a shutdown without closing, you can see if anything was left by looking, on the drive you nominated, for a file like "Photoshop Temp295485105596" and deleting it (or them if there are more).

You nominate the disk(s) from inside Photoshop by going to Edit > Preferences > Performance. If you never did it, it will be in the root your system drive (C:/).

What plug-ins?
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Ariana_B.
Sep 6, 2007
Thank you John, this is starting to make some sense now. I have too many free ones to count so let’s do it by the main ones I use most….

PlugIns:
Flaming Pear
SuperBlade Pro
Flood
Mura Pro & Mura’s Meister
Visman
Xenofex 1&2
EyeCandy3.1, 4000 & 5
OptikVerve
Brushes: I do 3D morphs and Models
Almost every Brush that Ron Deviney has put out
Face make-ups
Tattoos (*so many I lose count)
some action(s) scripts

Does this help? And Thank you very much for helping me.
Ariana
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John_Joslin
Sep 6, 2007
It is a good idea to create a folder such as "My plug-ins" and move your 3rd party plug-ins there (or re-install them). Then select this in Edit > Preferences > Plug-ins.

Brushes have to be loaded via the brushes palette or Preset Manager, and scripts copied into the appropriate folder. Maybe a script expert can advise on that.
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Ariana_B.
Sep 6, 2007
OK, so maybe it is because I tried to link up to a folder that everything else links to as well? I have this same folder linked to all 3 versions (*7,9 & X)of PSP I own. So if I create a second folder only for PS, this might help it? BTW, does any of the mentioned filters/PlugIns have issues with CS2 that you are arware of? One of the guys over at Renderosity posted this link for me
< http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=32 8880&sliceId=1> It does seem that CS2 has massive problems with linking and other problems???!
ThanX tho John, I am learning I hope! 🙂
Ariana
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Michael_D_Sullivan
Sep 7, 2007
Photoshop has problems with "linking" only insofar as it gets very unpleasant when you set your additional plug-ins folder to point to a folder containing the Adobe-provided plug-ins for a previous version. For example, if you had CS installed and had put all of your third-party plug-ins into the folder containing the PSCS built-in plug-ins, you shouldn’t use that folder as the additional plug-ins folder for CS2 or CS3, because it contains CS-specific versions of Adobe plug-ins.

You are better off using a single directory outside the Adobe file structure to hold your third-party plug-ins, and then telling all of your programs to look there.

I don’t know if there is a problem with linking to your PSP plug-ins folder, but if it only contains third-party photoshop-compatible plug-ins there should be no problem. A problem would likely arise if this folder contains components of PSP itself that are loaded as plug-ins but require access to the internal structure of PSP, which are obviously not going to be available in PSCS2!

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