hey smart guys

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Digga Downs
Sep 13, 2003
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I am trying to learn this stuff,this is my first time using photo shop and forums so instead being spiteful and wasting your time with insults how about a little HELP!!!!!

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Phosphor
Sep 13, 2003
Study the content at this link VERY carefully <http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html>. It’ll be of great help to you for the rest of your days.
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YrbkMgr
Sep 13, 2003
You are in a professional forum. We are friendly and more helpful than any other forum on the net. We aren’t kids. Phrase intelligent questions, and you will get intelligent answers. It’s that simple. Leave your attitude at the door, come and learn. You will learn more here than anywhere, but you must be willing to help yourself to some extent.
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Digga Downs
Sep 13, 2003
thank you for the link!
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Phosphor
Sep 13, 2003
Your welcome. Use it in good health!
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barry gray
Sep 13, 2003
Start with "PS Class Room In A Book"- check out Amazon.com- a very good place to start!
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dave milbut
Sep 14, 2003
I agree w/phosphor. that’s a great link. Tells you (the questioner) what we need to know to help you.

Books are great too. barry, do you think CiaB would be useful for an intermediate like me? not by any means a pro, but know my way around the block? I’m thinking of getting a cheap v7 version when ps8 comes out, but don’t want to waste my time…

thanks, dave
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Phosphor
Sep 14, 2003
Dave,

Excuse my "bluntness", but sorry, I don’t think CIAB could really help someone like you….

Heck, I think you could probably co-author it!!!!

Patty 🙂
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dave milbut
Sep 14, 2003
thanks patty. i’m not that good. just technical. i really need work on the "artistic" side of things. thanks for the info. any recommendations with my previous statement in mind?
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Phosphor
Sep 14, 2003
Well Dave,

I would suggest an afternoon at Barnes at Noble to look through the many books available for the "artistic" side of PS.

Also, more specifically, when you refer to "artistic" what exactly is your area of interest? Photo enhancement art, or layout and design principles, or creating digital art through painting or???

I am a "book hound" in the sense that I’m trying to tackle all of the above, compounded by "lacking" in computer skills. I have an extensive library.

Here are some of my favorites that I hope to glean talent from:

The Art of Photoshop by Daniel Girodan

Adobe Photoshop Master Class by John Paul Caponigro

Photoshop Cookbook by Froebisch, Lindner, Steffen

Creative Thinking in Photoshop by Sharon Steuer

Start with a Scan by Janet Ashford and John Odam

the photoshop book for digital photographers by Scott Kelby

The Non-Designer’s Design Book by Robin Williams

If I was going to really "think big", I’d like a magic potion that I would drink and wake up the next day being "artistically gifted."

In lieu of that, I just keep trying to learn!

Patty 🙂
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dave milbut
Sep 14, 2003
Also, more specifically, when you refer to "artistic" what exactly is your area of interest? Photo enhancement art,

yup.

or layout and design principles,

not so much but could come in handy…

or creating digital art through painting or???

yup yup.

If I was going to really "think big", I’d like a magic potion that I would drink and wake up the next day being "artistically gifted."

That’s the ticket. I’ll take a six pack of that to go please. 🙂
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Daryl Pritchard
Sep 14, 2003
Hi Patty,

What do you call a book hound who never cracks the spine of a book? Ha!…I am SOOOOOOO guilty of that, often thinking about how I can really build upon and expand my knowledge by buying this or that book. Still, it is nice to at least know I’ve got some extra resources available if and when the time comes that I really get "down and dirty" into really putting Photoshop to use. Being that I like well-illustrated manuals, I found that among the books I have, that I really like "Look & Learn Photoshop 6", by Deke McClelland, nearly the best. It focuses mostly upon the basics of getting familiar with and using Photoshop, but it also has some good examples to work through and is presented in a pretty simple style. It doesn’t come close to the Photoshop Bible however, which is also excellent and rich in content.

While I’ve yet to start on it, my next project will be restoration of some very old photos my mother asked if I could try and repair. Some are in quite bad shape, and that leads me to thinking I should add Katrin Eisemann and Doug Nelson’s "Photoshtop Restoration & Retouching" which was recently released as a 2nd edition and has long received many good reviews. That might be a book you’d like to add to your list also if you aren’t aware of it.

Regards,

Daryl
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Don McCahill
Sep 14, 2003
Dave

I just want to reinforce Patty’s feeling that CIAB is not appropriate for someone who knows the basics. CIAB is a basics book, with exercises that teach you how to make selections (the Mr. Vegetable Head tutorial, that is often in PS manuals and help files is originally from CIAB).

While the book covers everything basic in detail, it can be mind-numbing for someone experienced in those basics.
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Phosphor
Sep 15, 2003
Hey Daryl,

Here’s another "book" that you can protect the spine—Photo-Retouching Secrets by Scott Kelby—good book.

Don,

You made me laugh remembering my first encounter in class with Mr. Potatoe Head—I was lacking basic computer skills and I tell ya–
my guys eyes made of the blueberries were beyond abstract bizarre art for sure.

Good chuckle–

Patty
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dave milbut
Sep 15, 2003
k thanks guys. i’ll keep looking.

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