You may be looking at the JPG previews rather than the raw images if you don’t have the latest Adobe Camera Raw plug-in.
What version do you have?
(Help > About Plug-In > Camera Raw…)
John: I am not shooting RAW, so everything I’m trying to open is strictly JPEG. Would the Adobe Camera Raw plug-in still apply?
Curvemeister: Do you mean selecting the monitor profile in the Windows XP Display Properties/Settings/Advanced section? I’ll check that when I get home. However, if the display profile is bad, I still don’t understand why my images would look great everywhere other than in Photoshop.
Photoshop uses the system display profile, other apps don’t. So if you have the incorrect profile configured for your display, only Photoshop will be affected, and show bad colors.
Would the Adobe Camera Raw plug-in still apply?
Not to your problem although it can be used to edit JPEGs.
Thanks to both of you for your suggestions. I’ll check my system display settings tonight… that sounds like a likely culprit.
Proabably a bad display profile. This can happen, for example, if you run Adobe Gamma on most LCD monitors. Make sure that you have the manufacturer’s monitor profile assigned in Display
Properties>Advanced>Color settings.
I checked my system display settings, and it was indeed using the color profile for my monitor (a Dell 2405FPW). I also came across this discussion:
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http://photo.net/digital-darkroom-forum/00Ejvq>
….which confirms that Dell shipped this monitor with a damaged color profile. Lacking a hardware calibrator, I switched my monitor profile to sRGB, and now Photoshop looks great!
There you go – congrats on fixing the problem. SRgb should be fine. You might also find a closer profile at www.dell.com in the support area for your monitor. I do not advocate buying a calibration device in this case.
I take digital photos of everything from jewelry parts to gemstones and tools. Esp. w/ stones, color rendering is important. I save the work for both website and print.
I’m using a flat-panel Dell EI77FP on NVIDIA Quadro NVS 285.
I said ‘yes’ to I-can’t-remember-what kind of workspace color rendering modification, now everything is weird. Usetabe, I launched, worked, saved, quit, and everything was OK.
Now:
At launch, Foreground color on Tool Palette is an off-white, towards tan. Slider palettes have the light-tan-is-the-whitest-you-get display. Stats show R, G, and B render at a full-blast 255.
Icons & stuff on monitor outside work area render a clear, bright white where white exists.
I can pull up an image, especially silver jewelry parts, have that sepia look, then choose a Proof Setup of RGB Monitor, and everything renders OK.
I’ll make a web version of image, save it for the web dude, and make a CMYK version for print, and the sepia undertone comes back in p’shop. Pulling up the saved CMYK in Windows>Preview, everything’s hunky-dory.
The workarounds are there, but I pine for a better vanished time, the era of Usetabe.
At launch, Foreground color on Tool Palette is an off-white, towards tan. Slider palettes have the light-tan-is-the-whitest-you-get display. Stats show R, G, and B render at a full-blast 255.
Icons & stuff on monitor outside work area render a clear, bright white where white exists
choose a Proof Setup of RGB Monitor, and everything renders OK.
All those are typical signs of a broken monitor profile. You need to recalibrate.
Thanks, Freeagent. I’ll pursue that angle.
Have a relaxed, refreshing weekend.
DW
HELP PLEASE!
I would guess that this topic has been discussed before, if not many times. However, I have not come across it in the endless sea of discussions so bear with me please.
I am printing my digital photos via Photoshop CS3. I have done everything I can think of and all that is suggested during "page set-up." The colors on the monitor are perfect, just the way I want them after editing. However, my photos all print out DARKER than they appear on the screen. I am printing with an HP Photosmart 2610. Maybe it is no so smart after all.
Any suggestions or direction on this would be more than greatly appreciated. I have wasted a lot paper and ink as a result of this.
THANKS FOR YOUR TIME!
Sincerely,
Carlisle Wiley
HELP PLEASE!
I would guess that this topic has been discussed before, if not many times. However, I have not come across it in the endless sea of discussions so bear with me please.
I am printing my digital photos via Photoshop CS3. I have done everything I can think of and all that is suggested during "page set-up." The colors on the monitor are perfect, just the way I want them after editing. However, my photos all print out DARKER than they appear on the screen. I am printing with an HP Photosmart 2610. Maybe it is no so smart after all.
Any suggestions or direction on this would be more than greatly appriciated. I have wasted a lot paper and ink as a result of this.
THANKS FOR YOUR TIME!
Sincerely,
Carlisle Wiley
HELP PLEASE!
I would guess that this topic has been discussed before, if not many times. However, I have not come across it in the endless sea of discussions so bear with me please.
I am printing my digital photos via Photoshop CS3. I have done everything I can think of and all that is suggested during "page set-up." The colors on the monitor are perfect, just the way I want them after editing. However, my photos all print out DARKER than they appear on the screen. I am printing with an HP Photosmart 2610. Maybe it is no so smart after all.
Any suggestions or direction on this would be more than greatly appreciated. I have wasted a lot paper and ink as a result of this.
THANKS FOR YOUR TIME!
Sincerely,
Carlisle Wiley
When did you last calibrate your monitor and what method did you use?
You’re lucky. Over on the Mac forum they’ve just wrapped up the discussion-to-end-all-discussions on this very subject.
That thread has been going on for almost six weeks, so it takes a little time to work through all the 200+ posts, but it’s worth it.
You can jump in here:
Peter Figen, "Specific Calibration Question" #11, 18 Jul 2008 12:18 pm </webx?14/10>
Edit: And, of course, what John says. I notice we have a tendency to cross-post, John. We must have similar habits.
Carlisle,
Recalibrate and lower the brightness of you monitor…..see if that helps.
‘Perfect’ images on a bad calibration is next to useless as you will be adjusting, over/under compensating, the colour, saturation, tone etc to the wrong values.
Edit: I’ve just had a look at the Mac link ——- What they said!!!:)
Your prints are too dark. So you need to either make your monitor darker, or your prints lighter. Given that you are probably fairly happy with your monitor for cruising the web, etc, let’s focus on your printer.
If it’s like my HP, there is a brightness adjustment in the printer driver under Start>Settings>Printers and Faxes><"printer name">. Adjust it until the overall brightness of the print matches, as closely as possible, the appearance of your screen.
To save paper and ink, I recommend that you print a thin strip at the top of the page, and snip off the strip after each test.
Here is a test strip that you can use, with a variety of blurred skin tones as well as a gray test strip. The procedure is documented here:
http://curvemeister.com/downloads/TestStrip/digital_test_str ip.htm As a final check, download images from any well-known web gallery and print them, or use one of the calibration images from www.drycreekphoto.com . If they are too dark or too light, you may want to revisit the brightness of your monitor.
Trust your vision, and treat this as a learning experience. With a little patience, and a systematic procedure, you can get good results without a calibration device.
Monitor calibration devices are a valuable tool in a professional or high end amateur setting. No one is saying they are a complete solution to matching display to printer, and some final tweaking may be necessary for matching print and display.
Hi all,
I don’t know if this will help all of you but….
I upgraded to Vista x64 and loaded the apps i normally use in my business as well as CS3 Master Collection. I thought everything was fine until i ran Ps, Dw and Id. I noticed that the loaded images where color shifted.
After researching the Vista and adobe forums, it appeared that either Nvidia or lack of Dell 2405FPW Vista drivers or incorrect/missing monitor profiles was causing the problem. Since I had the latest x64 Nvidia drivers, I concluded that all i could do was to check the monitor profiles and what do you know – no profile associated with the monitor. Vista does not come with monitor profiles for the Dell 2405FPW so none was associated with the monitor.
So… i dug up my old Dell 2405FPW drivers disc. It failed to install the driver due to Vista x64, but i found and installed the 2405FPW ICM profile on the disc.
Success!
All I needed was the Dell 2405FPW ICM profile file.
I install the profile, checked "Use my settings for this device" then added and associated the profile to the display device’s (i have dual 2405FPW monitors) in Color Management.
You can see the results when you toggle the "Use my settings for this device" check box and then select a preloaded image in Ps, Id or Dw. The colors will change.
