Stroking A Stroke?

In article <QThbe.8030$>, "Dee" wrote:

Can you place a stroke on an item that’s all ready been stroked? In other words: a double stroke.

OK guys … keep your mind out of the gutter! LOL …

WhatEVER could you mean??? 😉
hehehe

Add a stroke to an item… Rasterize the stroke layer by Right Clicking on the effect and select Create Layer. You then need to merge the two layers (maybe create a backup of the original layer first). Now you can add another Stroke to the new layer. 🙂

Dee wrote:

Can you place a stroke on an item that’s all ready been stroked? In other words: a double stroke.

Yes. Select it. First stroke inside, next stroke outside.

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"bH" wrote in message

Add a stroke to an item… Rasterize the stroke layer by Right Clicking on the effect and select Create Layer. You then need to merge the two layers (maybe create a backup of the original layer first). Now you can add another Stroke to the new layer. :)>

Wow! That worked great! Never even knew about that.

Thanks bH!

Hugs,
Dee

"Johan W. Elzenga" wrote in message

Dee wrote:

Can you place a stroke on an item that’s all ready been stroked? In other words: a double stroke.

Yes. Select it. First stroke inside, next stroke outside.

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Johan,

That doesn’t work … but thank you for trying. 🙂

Hugs,
Dee

"mL" wrote in message

In article <QThbe.8030$>, "Dee"

wrote:

Can you place a stroke on an item that’s all ready been stroked? In other words: a double stroke.

OK guys … keep your mind out of the gutter! LOL …

WhatEVER could you mean??? 😉
hehehe

*reaches down and helps mL out of the gutter*

Dee wrote:

"Johan W. Elzenga" wrote in message

Dee wrote:

Can you place a stroke on an item that’s all ready been stroked? In other words: a double stroke.

Yes. Select it. First stroke inside, next stroke outside.

Johan,

That doesn’t work … but thank you for trying. 🙂

Of course it does work. As long as you keep the selection alive (or reselect).

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Johan W. Elzenga johan<<at>>johanfoto.nl Editor / Photographer http://www.johanfoto.nl/

"Johan W. Elzenga" wrote in message

Dee wrote:

"Johan W. Elzenga" wrote in message

Dee wrote:

Can you place a stroke on an item that’s all ready been stroked? In other words: a double stroke.

Yes. Select it. First stroke inside, next stroke outside.

Johan,

That doesn’t work … but thank you for trying. 🙂

Of course it does work. As long as you keep the selection alive (or reselect).

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Johan W. Elzenga johan<<at>>johanfoto.nl Editor / Photographer http://www.johanfoto.nl/

No luck here trying that. However, if you make a duplicate layer you can do one outside and one inside. That worked pretty well.

"Dee" wrote in message

Can you place a stroke on an item that’s all ready been stroked? In other words: a double stroke.

OK guys … keep your mind out of the gutter! LOL …

Dee

Or you could use a gradient stroke.. with shape burst.
Then set on colour one end, and the other at the other end, and meet them together at 50%
(so you get no gradient)… does that make sense?

Of course it does work. As long as you keep the selection alive (or reselect).

I think you’re using the Stroke tool from edit.. not from Blending options. (which does work just as well!)

"Scruff" wrote:

Of course it does work. As long as you keep the selection alive (or reselect).

No luck here trying that. However, if you make a duplicate layer you can do one outside and one inside. That worked pretty well.

1. Make a selection
2. Choose menu ‘Edit – Stroke’. Choose your color and click ‘Inside’
3. Click ‘OK’
4. Choose menu ‘edit – Stroke’ again. Choose a different color, and this time click ‘Outside’
5. Click ‘OK’

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I have used oli’s method before but Johan’s idea is new to me, my hubby is painting cars for his racing sim and always asks me how to do that.

"oli" wrote in message

"Dee" wrote in message

Can you place a stroke on an item that’s all ready been stroked? In other words: a double stroke.

OK guys … keep your mind out of the gutter! LOL …

Dee

Or you could use a gradient stroke.. with shape burst.
Then set on colour one end, and the other at the other end, and meet them together at 50%
(so you get no gradient)… does that make sense?

OK .. it works when I use ‘edit’ … but not with layer style.

Dee

"Johan W. Elzenga" wrote in message

Dee wrote:

"Johan W. Elzenga" wrote in message

Dee wrote:

Can you place a stroke on an item that’s all ready been stroked? In other words: a double stroke.

Yes. Select it. First stroke inside, next stroke outside.

Johan,

That doesn’t work … but thank you for trying. 🙂

Of course it does work. As long as you keep the selection alive (or reselect).

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Johan W. Elzenga johan<<at>>johanfoto.nl Editor / Photographer http://www.johanfoto.nl/

Yeah, that worked … but not using Layer Styles…

Dee

"Johan W. Elzenga" wrote in message

"Scruff" wrote:

Of course it does work. As long as you keep the selection alive (or reselect).

No luck here trying that. However, if you make a duplicate layer you can

do

one outside and one inside. That worked pretty well.

1. Make a selection
2. Choose menu ‘Edit – Stroke’. Choose your color and click ‘Inside’
3. Click ‘OK’
4. Choose menu ‘edit – Stroke’ again. Choose a different color, and this time click ‘Outside’
5. Click ‘OK’

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Johan W. Elzenga johan<<at>>johanfoto.nl Editor / Photographer http://www.johanfoto.nl/

Hmmmmm …. I can’t seem to get what you mean … tried it, but it’s not working .. I’m getting a gradient.

Dee

"oli" wrote in message

"Dee" wrote in message

Can you place a stroke on an item that’s all ready been stroked? In other words: a double stroke.

OK guys … keep your mind out of the gutter! LOL …

Dee

Or you could use a gradient stroke.. with shape burst.
Then set on colour one end, and the other at the other end, and meet them together at 50%
(so you get no gradient)… does that make sense?

Kat:

Are you using Johan’s way with ‘edit’ … or Layer style?

Dee

"KatWoman" wrote in message

I have used oli’s method before but Johan’s idea is new to me, my hubby is painting cars for his racing sim and always asks me how to do that.
"oli" wrote in message

"Dee" wrote in message

Can you place a stroke on an item that’s all ready been stroked? In other words: a double stroke.

OK guys … keep your mind out of the gutter! LOL …

Dee

Or you could use a gradient stroke.. with shape burst.
Then set on colour one end, and the other at the other end, and meet

them

together at 50%
(so you get no gradient)… does that make sense?

Dee wrote:

"Johan W. Elzenga" wrote in message

1. Make a selection
2. Choose menu ‘Edit – Stroke’. Choose your color and click ‘Inside’
3. Click ‘OK’
4. Choose menu ‘edit – Stroke’ again. Choose a different color, and this time click ‘Outside’
5. Click ‘OK’

Yeah, that worked … but not using Layer Styles…

Dee

Of course it doesn’t work with layer styles, because you only have one layer style per layer. If you really want to use layer styles, you have to make a copy of the layer and apply one stroke on each layer (inside stroke on top layer, outside stroke on bottom layer).

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Johan W. Elzenga johan<<at>>johanfoto.nl Editor / Photographer http://www.johanfoto.nl/

"Johan W. Elzenga" wrote in message

Dee wrote:

"Johan W. Elzenga" wrote in message

1. Make a selection
2. Choose menu ‘Edit – Stroke’. Choose your color and click ‘Inside’
3. Click ‘OK’
4. Choose menu ‘edit – Stroke’ again. Choose a different color, and

this

time click ‘Outside’
5. Click ‘OK’

Yeah, that worked … but not using Layer Styles…

Dee

Of course it doesn’t work with layer styles, because you only have one layer style per layer. If you really want to use layer styles, you have to make a copy of the layer and apply one stroke on each layer (inside stroke on top layer, outside stroke on bottom layer).

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Johan W. Elzenga johan<<at>>johanfoto.nl Editor / Photographer http://www.johanfoto.nl/

That’s how I did it, I prefer it that way because you have more specific control.

No, I was using layer style and couldn’t get it, I used the gradient method as a work around and have also done the stroke, rasterize, then stroke again method.

This is the second really useful thing I have seen so far on this NG.

"Dee" wrote in message

Kat:

Are you using Johan’s way with ‘edit’ … or Layer style?
Dee

"KatWoman" wrote in message

I have used oli’s method before but Johan’s idea is new to me, my hubby is
painting cars for his racing sim and always asks me how to do that.
"oli" wrote in message

"Dee" wrote in message

Can you place a stroke on an item that’s all ready been stroked? In other words: a double stroke.

OK guys … keep your mind out of the gutter! LOL …

Dee

Or you could use a gradient stroke.. with shape burst.
Then set on colour one end, and the other at the other end, and meet

them

together at 50%
(so you get no gradient)… does that make sense?

On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 02:41:52 GMT, "Dee" wrote:

Can you place a stroke on an item that’s all ready been stroked? In other words: a double stroke.

OK guys … keep your mind out of the gutter! LOL …

OK. So what you want is a two stroke? Rotary is better… 😉

There, no gutter 🙂

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you don’t have, to impress people you don’t like…

KatWoman wrote:
<snip>

No, I was using layer style and couldn’t get it, I used the gradient method as a work around and have also done the stroke, rasterize, then stroke again method.

This is the second really useful thing I have seen so far on this NG.

Oh my, only the second? That is not saying a lot for this NG. I have seen lots of good tips in here, maybe I am easier to please 🙂 (Well in some ways, but let’st stay out of the gutter).

Brian.

The style has to be set on shape burst.
Make a massive stroke, set it to centre and put two colours in the gradient. You should then see what i mean.

"Dee" wrote in message

Hmmmmm …. I can’t seem to get what you mean … tried it, but it’s not working .. I’m getting a gradient.

Dee

"oli" wrote in message

"Dee" wrote in message

Can you place a stroke on an item that’s all ready been stroked? In other words: a double stroke.

OK guys … keep your mind out of the gutter! LOL …

Dee

Or you could use a gradient stroke.. with shape burst.
Then set on colour one end, and the other at the other end, and meet

them

together at 50%
(so you get no gradient)… does that make sense?

Of course it doesn’t work with layer styles, because you only have one layer style per layer. If you really want to use layer styles, you have to make a copy of the layer and apply one stroke on each layer (inside stroke on top layer, outside stroke on bottom layer).

I can easily work with layer styles.. check my posts! Shape burst gradients!!

Ah, ok … now I’ve got it! I wasn’t setting it for ‘shape burst’.

Dee

"oli" wrote in message

The style has to be set on shape burst.
Make a massive stroke, set it to centre and put two colours in the

gradient.

You should then see what i mean.

"Dee" wrote in message

Hmmmmm …. I can’t seem to get what you mean … tried it, but it’s not working .. I’m getting a gradient.

Dee

"oli" wrote in message

"Dee" wrote in message

Can you place a stroke on an item that’s all ready been stroked? In other words: a double stroke.

OK guys … keep your mind out of the gutter! LOL …

Dee

Or you could use a gradient stroke.. with shape burst.
Then set on colour one end, and the other at the other end, and meet

them

together at 50%
(so you get no gradient)… does that make sense?

OK …. thing I’m finding is this: with every method used here, you still don’t get a really ‘square’ outline. It’s either rounded off at corners or clipped on ends of corners.

I’m very thankful for all the new suggestions …. but now how can you achieve a really nice square stroke, or can’t you?

Dee

"Dee" wrote in message

Can you place a stroke on an item that’s all ready been stroked? In other words: a double stroke.

OK guys … keep your mind out of the gutter! LOL …

Dee

Dee wrote:

OK …. thing I’m finding is this: with every method used here, you still don’t get a really ‘square’ outline. It’s either rounded off at corners or clipped on ends of corners.

I’m very thankful for all the new suggestions …. but now how can you achieve a really nice square stroke, or can’t you?

1. Make a rectangular or square selection
2. Choose ‘Select – Save Selection’ and call it ‘Big’
3. Choose ‘Select – Modify – Contract’ and fill the number of pixels you want the thickness of the stroke to be
4. Choose ‘Select – Save Selection’ and call it ‘Small’
5. Deselect
6. Choose ‘Select – Load Selection’ and choose ‘Big’
7. Choose ‘Select – Load Selection’ and choose ‘Small’, and check the ‘Subtract from Selection’ box.
8. Choose ‘Edit – Fill’ and fill with the color of your choice

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Johan W. Elzenga johan<<at>>johanfoto.nl Editor / Photographer http://www.johanfoto.nl/

well I have only been here about 3 weeks and I almost quit coming since so many of the posts were junk posted by Noname, wavy and some other spammers and trolls.

"Brian" wrote in message

KatWoman wrote:
<snip>

No, I was using layer style and couldn’t get it, I used the gradient method as a work around and have also done the stroke, rasterize, then stroke again method.

This is the second really useful thing I have seen so far on this NG.

Oh my, only the second? That is not saying a lot for this NG. I have seen lots of good tips in here, maybe I am easier to please 🙂 (Well in some ways, but let’st stay out of the gutter).

Brian.

This is a great group. If you just have the control to not click on the posts that annoy you, you will do just fine.
FYI, While I love to banter with such types, I bet I’m the only one going to the other crossposted newsgroups, replying while removing this newsgroup from the post list. As anyone will notice, it has made a huge difference. I’m sure now that I mention it, it will all increase again, such is the life of a ng.

"KatWoman" wrote in message

well I have only been here about 3 weeks and I almost quit coming since so many of the posts were junk posted by Noname, wavy and some other spammers and trolls.

"Brian" wrote in message

KatWoman wrote:
<snip>

No, I was using layer style and couldn’t get it, I used the gradient method as a work around and have also done the stroke, rasterize, then stroke again method.

This is the second really useful thing I have seen so far on this NG.

Oh my, only the second? That is not saying a lot for this NG. I have

seen

lots of good tips in here, maybe I am easier to please 🙂 (Well in some ways, but let’st stay out of the gutter).

Brian.

That works well …. now can you do that with an object that isn’t square?

Dee

"Johan W. Elzenga" wrote in message

Dee wrote:

OK …. thing I’m finding is this: with every method used here, you

still

don’t get a really ‘square’ outline. It’s either rounded off at corners

or

clipped on ends of corners.

I’m very thankful for all the new suggestions …. but now how can you achieve a really nice square stroke, or can’t you?

1. Make a rectangular or square selection
2. Choose ‘Select – Save Selection’ and call it ‘Big’
3. Choose ‘Select – Modify – Contract’ and fill the number of pixels you want the thickness of the stroke to be
4. Choose ‘Select – Save Selection’ and call it ‘Small’
5. Deselect
6. Choose ‘Select – Load Selection’ and choose ‘Big’
7. Choose ‘Select – Load Selection’ and choose ‘Small’, and check the ‘Subtract from Selection’ box.
8. Choose ‘Edit – Fill’ and fill with the color of your choice

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Johan W. Elzenga johan<<at>>johanfoto.nl Editor / Photographer http://www.johanfoto.nl/

Dee wrote:

That works well …. now can you do that with an object that isn’t square?

Of course. Just select the object and perform the same steps.

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Johan W. Elzenga johan<<at>>johanfoto.nl Editor / Photographer http://www.johanfoto.nl/