File format Question

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Deon H
Jun 28, 2004
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Hi there,
sorry if this is a bit off topic, but I need your help here.

I have to hand in a graphic I created with Photoshop. The company set out the following requirements for this:
We require computer disk (AppleMac compatible) accompanied by a colour printout of the advertisement. Formats accepted: Quark; Freehand EPS; Photoshop.

I have WIN XP Prof as OS with PS 7.01

Do I need anything else and is there a difference between a Photoshop graphic created on a WIN OS and that of a AppleMac?

Regards,

Deon H

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arrooke
Jun 28, 2004
Hi there,
sorry if this is a bit off topic, but I need your help here.
I have to hand in a graphic I created with Photoshop. The company set out the following requirements for this:
We require computer disk (AppleMac compatible) accompanied by a colour printout of the advertisement. Formats accepted: Quark; Freehand EPS; Photoshop.

I have WIN XP Prof as OS with PS 7.01

Do I need anything else and is there a difference between a Photoshop graphic created on a WIN OS and that of a AppleMac?

Regards,

Deon H

Nope, no difference. You can safely save as .psd or .eps. If you have any text in your graphic that could cause a problem (fonts). Just make sure you flatten the image first, or rasterize the type layers, and that will look after that. The fonts would then no longer be fonts. They will become a graphic.
Keith.
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Deon H
Jun 28, 2004
Thanx for your prompt reply, Keith.

Thank you.

Deon
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Eric Gill
Jun 28, 2004
"arrooke" wrote in
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Nope, no difference. You can safely save as .psd or .eps. If you have any text in your graphic that could cause a problem (fonts). Just make sure you flatten the image first, or rasterize the type layers, and that will look after that. The fonts would then no longer be fonts. They will become a graphic.

Indeed they will. Pixels at lo-resolution at that.

Instead of flattening, save a copy as Photoshop pdf. Check the options for "Include Vector Data" and "Use Outlines for Text."

No font problems, and text outputs at whatever resolution their machines output – call it a minimum of 1200 dpi, more likely 2400 or 3600 (i.e., nice, sharp text).
SB
Steve Bowden
Jul 4, 2004
A photoshop file, EPS, tiff, and jpeg are all transferable between both systems.

in article , Deon H at
wrote on 6/28/04 9:05 AM:

Hi there,
sorry if this is a bit off topic, but I need your help here.
I have to hand in a graphic I created with Photoshop. The company set out the following requirements for this:
We require computer disk (AppleMac compatible) accompanied by a colour printout of the advertisement. Formats accepted: Quark; Freehand EPS; Photoshop.

I have WIN XP Prof as OS with PS 7.01

Do I need anything else and is there a difference between a Photoshop graphic created on a WIN OS and that of a AppleMac?

Regards,

Deon H
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Andrew_D_Auria
Aug 18, 2004
Hello everyone,

I’m kind of new to PSE and digital photography in general. I use a Canon PowerShot A80, which saves all files in JPG format (I alternate between fine and superfine compression modes, not sure there’s a big difference – any advice on that??).

So I’ve got lots of folders full of JPG files. Now, I go into PSE and edit these files. I made different changes and enhancements, and sometimes even crop. So far, I’ve been saving as PS native file formats when I want to do more editing, but when I am done working on it I want to save it only as a smaller file (1-2 MB). At the same time, I don’t want to give up too much quality. I’ve been saving, therefore, as JPG with a quality setting of 10 (of 12).

Questions: Is this my best option for maintaining a reasonable level of quality (say, for doing 5×7 prints or something), but not devouring my hard drive? Are there some best practices for maintaining quality in the JPG format? Should I consider using a different format? Any recommended testing procedures?

Thanks!!

-Andrew
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jhjl1
Aug 18, 2004
I would save all files as TIFF or PSD, storage is cheap these days. Every time you resave a jpeg you are going to lose quality. Just my .02 worth.


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Hello everyone,

I’m kind of new to PSE and digital photography in general. I use a
Canon PowerShot A80, which saves all files in JPG format (I alternate between fine and superfine compression modes, not sure there’s a big difference – any advice on that??).
So I’ve got lots of folders full of JPG files. Now, I go into PSE and
edit these files. I made different changes and enhancements, and sometimes even crop. So far, I’ve been saving as PS native file formats when I want to do more editing, but when I am done working on it I want to save it only as a smaller file (1-2 MB). At the same time, I don’t want to give up too much quality. I’ve been saving, therefore, as JPG with a quality setting of 10 (of 12).
Questions: Is this my best option for maintaining a reasonable level
of quality (say, for doing 5×7 prints or something), but not devouring my hard drive? Are there some best practices for maintaining quality in the JPG format? Should I consider using a different format? Any recommended testing procedures?
Thanks!!

-Andrew
JH
Jim_Hess
Aug 18, 2004
Your approach seems reasonable. With the JPEG format you lose quality with repeated saves. So if you use a high quality setting to save the finished image as a JPEG you probably aren’t going to see any noticeable degradation. A lot of us are in the habit of saving the original images downloaded from our camera to CD-ROM so that if we need the image again in the future we can at least re-create the masterpiece if we have otherwise lost it.
JH
Jim_Hess
Aug 18, 2004
If, however, you have a particular image that you have spent considerable time modifying to get what you want, I would save that modified image either as a PSD or tiff image. CDs are cheap.
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JesusIsGod
Aug 18, 2004
Andrew,

(I alternate between fine and superfine compression modes, not sure there’s a big difference – any advice on that??).

Superfine supports larger enlargements with better detail. You should always shoot at the highest quality you can or you will end up kicking yourself later for skimping on quality to save a few bytes of storage.

Regarding best practices –> never, never edit a JPEG file. And if you open one, always Exit Without Saving when you close it.

The reason is that, for an open JPEG file, every time you click on Save you lose resolution. Its gets ugly fast.

As James and Jim recommended –> open the virgin JPEG file, safe it as a TIFF, then edit the TIFF file instead. You can always create another JPEG from the TIFF.

There is a thread on RAW file format that you should read, lots of good information there about JPEG as well.

Robert
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Andrew_D_Auria
Aug 19, 2004
Thanks for the advice… I guess I’ll sort of split the difference – back stuff up on CDs, save files as JPGs for basic use or PSD when I want to do more editing, etc. (and back those up too).

-Andrew
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clint
Aug 19, 2004
Can’t you still do editing on JPEGS?
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Thanks for the advice… I guess I’ll sort of split the difference – back
stuff up on CDs, save files as JPGs for basic use or PSD when I want to do more editing, etc. (and back those up too).
-Andrew
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louis xiv
Feb 15, 2005
Hi

I’ve been asked to create files to populate a CD ROM which is being put together by someone else in Flash MX. I want to create images (Photos and Lettering) in Elements 2 which will appear against a background and so they need to be saved on a transparent background. i’ve saved them as gifs but the quality when the rough is played in Flash Player is poor with rough edges.

Anyideas? i can’t save the files as jpegs as they wont be on transparent backgrounds. or can they be? Help!!!

Should I be using Fireworks?

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RSD99
Feb 15, 2005
The common file formats that can handle "transparency" are something like

GIF – Not good for photos, it is 8-bit indexed color

PNG – probably the best choice

TARGA – A bit of a rarity these days

Therefore, use PNG … but check what "browser" your friend is using. If he is using HTML, Internet Express has "known problems" with PNG transparency, but Firefox does OK as far as I’ve heard. It is a free download, and could probably be included on the CD.

"louis xiv" wrote in message
Hi

I’ve been asked to create files to populate a CD ROM which is being put together by someone else in Flash MX. I want to create images (Photos and Lettering) in Elements 2 which will appear against a background and so
they
need to be saved on a transparent background. i’ve saved them as gifs but the quality when the rough is played in Flash Player is poor with rough edges.

Anyideas? i can’t save the files as jpegs as they wont be on transparent backgrounds. or can they be? Help!!!

Should I be using Fireworks?

xiv

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adobe.photoshop.elements

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RR_Ortensie
Sep 22, 2008
HELP! Our archive consists of hundreds if not thousands of images that were professionally scanned using Kodak CD software (don’t ask). We upgraded to Creative Suites and now cannot get the images to open because it cannot recognize the file format. I’ve located the Photo CD File Format Plug-In v3.0.7 but that doesn’t seem to work. Any help?!?!? thanks!

ray ortensie

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Mylenium
Sep 22, 2008
I’d try XnView, a viewing and conversion tool (free for non-com use, but I suppose the USAF could cough up 50 bucks if needed… 😉 ) It opens a ton of formats and may at least give you an option to batch convert the files. That aside, please do file a feature request/ bug report with Adobe if you think this needs fixing:

<http://www.adobe.com/go/wish>

If you can provide a sample file somewhere, surely someone might also take a look and perhaps find the culprit.

Mylenium
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Richard Pullano
Sep 22, 2008
wrote:
I’d try XnView, a viewing and conversion tool (free for non-com use, but I suppose the USAF could cough up 50 bucks if needed… 😉 ) It opens a ton of formats and may at least give you an option to batch convert the files. That aside, please do file a feature request/ bug report with Adobe if you think this needs fixing:

<http://www.adobe.com/go/wish>

If you can provide a sample file somewhere, surely someone might also take a look and perhaps find the culprit.

Mylenium
Irfanview, a free viewer has some file conversion and image enhancing capabilities.
Its free and has many format capabilities. I don’t know if it will do what you want but it don’t cost much to try.
Good Luck,
Richard
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Michael_D_Sullivan
Sep 23, 2008
You might want to try the freeware Irfanview, which has a plugin for PhotoCD.
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RR_Ortensie
Sep 23, 2008
Thanks. The problem we have is we are on a government server and are limited to what we can have on there – they have been clamping even harder down to where I had to justify why we needed Adobe on the systems. Thanks for the help.
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Mylenium
Sep 23, 2008
That’s bad. You could ask them to run a Virtual Machine for you to experiment with the various tools. XnView does not require an install and can be directly used by extracting it from a zipped file…

Mylenium
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Mike_Morrell
Jan 1, 2009
I’ve got this problem too. I used to be able to open Photo CD files natively inside of older versions of photoshop. now, even with the PCDICC.8BI file from Kodak’s web site, all I get is a "program error" in CS3 and CS4.
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Mike_Morrell
Jan 2, 2009
I installed Photoshop 7.0 on an old PC and I can open the Photo CD files properly. I found the Photo CD.8bi file on the PS7 directory and copied it to the file formats directory in CS4 and CS3 on my main PC and tried to open the Photo CD files and neither CS3 nor CS4 could do it. I got dialog messages with no text.

Ideally, I would like to use Bridge (or lightroom) to view the .pcd files, rate them and batch convert the good ones to lasting uncompressed file format (DNG or tiff?). If anyone can explain how I might do this using current Adobe tools, perhaps with the old Photo CD converted placed in the proper directory, please let me know.

Thanks.
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Mylenium
Jan 2, 2009
I don’t think that’s possible. The old plug-ins certainly fail, because no one updated them to reflect API changes in CS3 and CS4. Your best bet is to keep PS7 around as long as you can or resort to tools such as I mentioned. If you are looking for a rating system, you could perhaps take a look at ACDSee. It’s latest versions support XMP, which in theory would allow you to bring over that information to the Adobe products somehow.

Mylenium
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Mike_Morrell
Jan 2, 2009
I figured that I was SOL with CS3+. But I could not figure out how to get XnView to convert the files to full resolution. At least PS7 works. I can use XnView to batch convert to a lower resolution, rank the low res versions, then use PS7 to convert the good ones to high resolution one at a time.

It just goes to show you that with no widely accepted format for uncompressed images that some formats may die off in time. back in 1999 when I had these images scanned, I thought that between this being a format supported by the leading image company, Kodak, and it being supported by the leading digital photo manipulation program, that I would be safe with the file format for more than a decade. But that was naive thinking.
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KatWoman
Jan 2, 2009
It just goes to show you that with no widely accepted format for uncompressed images that some formats may die off in time. back in 1999 when I had these images scanned, I thought that between this being a format supported by the leading image company, Kodak, and it being supported by the leading digital photo manipulation program, that I would be safe with the file format for more than a decade. But that was naive thinking.

me too
but the photo lab warned me years ago Kodak itself withdrew from supporting their own format
best bet for you now if you can’t find a utility or plug-in to open them open them in old PS7 and save as…. (what ever you like) in a batch put onto new CD’s

so far Tiff seems to be the most shared and widely accepted format across platforms
or jpg >>>>>>but you may not want compression
RK
Ronald Keller
Jan 2, 2009
The Photo CD.8BI file that I have works fine here in CS3 and CS4. The version is 9.000 and the filesize is 139264 bytes.

If you want the file to try you are welcome to contact me via e-mail.

Ronald
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KatWoman
Jan 3, 2009
"Ronald Keller" wrote in message
The Photo CD.8BI file that I have works fine here in CS3 and CS4. The version is 9.000 and the filesize is 139264 bytes.

If you want the file to try you are welcome to contact me via e-mail.
Ronald

I just put the Kodak CD
my comp will not even show the file names!!
so no way to test the opening of them in PS

will report back later after trying the file suggestion
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KatWoman
Jan 3, 2009
"KatWoman" wrote in message
"Ronald Keller" wrote in message
The Photo CD.8BI file that I have works fine here in CS3 and CS4. The version is 9.000 and the filesize is 139264 bytes.

If you want the file to try you are welcome to contact me via e-mail.
Ronald

I just put the Kodak CD
my comp will not even show the file names!!
so no way to test the opening of them in PS

will report back later after trying the file suggestion

well I put the proper extension into the plug ins file formats and still my comp will not read the CD at all- in windows or in Photoshop no files show at all
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KatWoman
Jan 3, 2009
RE: >>> The Photo CD.8BI file that I have works fine here in CS3 and CS4.
well I put the proper extension into the plug ins file formats and still my comp will not read the CD at all- in windows or in Photoshop no files show at all
my DVD will not read the CD
however my husband’s comp has different brand DVD and it will read the files so I copied the folder called IMAGES to his and then to mine and now I can open them
the 8bi file was in my old CS presets folder
GK
Geoff_K_Jackson
Jan 18, 2009
I came across this thread today when I wanted to look at some old Kodak pcd files but couldn’t open them in CS4. I’ve now copied the old Photo CD.8BI in to the Photoshop Plug-ins/File Format folder and I can now open the files OK in Photoshop.
However I can not view them in Bridge. I have put the Photo CD.8BI file in to the Bridge plug-ins folder with no success. Anyone else got any advice about this? It’s not a big problem as I don’t have a lot of pcd files.
Thanks,
Geoff.
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Ray_Drake
Mar 4, 2009
I had no problem in CS3 with this, using the included plug in. But that plug in does not seem to work in CS4 and I don’t think one was included this time?
SG
steve_guilhamet
Mar 4, 2009
Kodak stop providing support for this format a while back. The plug-in was last included as an installed component with Photoshop CS2/Bridge CS2. In Ps CS3, it was included on the installer disk as an optional component [http://www.adobe.com/go/kb400945]

For Windows, I would suspect the plug-in might have problems loading on Vista.
GK
Geoff_K_Jackson
Mar 4, 2009
As I said in post #10, I copied the old Photo CD.8BI in to the Photoshop Plug-ins/File Format folder and I can now open the files OK in Photoshop. This is inCS4 using Vista 32 bit. However, it’s not a supported file format so it may not work on all set-ups.
Geoff.

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